Hello all

Had a nightmare day today, this morning I had to have my horse put to sleep she was 27yrs old and was going downhill, I was very upset to loose her.

Anyway following this sad morning, I took my lovely boy out for his walk , he is the sweetest natured dog ive ever had and because of this all the local dog walkers love to walk with us, as he is so playful and also
gives confidence to timid dogs.
Anyway on our way back from the fields we were walking up a little lane and a lady was walking down with a Large German Shepherd dog who was off the lead (my dog was of course on the lead)
her dog took one look at mine and set off at speed and dived on my dog biting his neck,  I was shouting at her to quickly come and get him, whilst spinning round with my dog shielding his face from this dog and trying to pull this agressive dog off!
My dog was yelping as he was biting his back, I eventually threw myself on top of my dog and kept thrusting my arm its in mouth hoping it woujld just bite me instead.

Anyway the woman eventuallypulled it off but then it pulled and she let go so it came over again!!!  again it bit my boy

When she finally got it and managed to put the lead  on I told her that dog shoujld be on a lead, to which replied he's got his electric collar on but its not worked when I pressed it!!
I was so annoyed, I said to her that was a horrid thing to put on her dog nasty or not and was the lazy way to try and control it, I told her to get her dog on a lead or if she couldnt keep hold of it a Halti or even a muzzle.
I asked had she socialised the dog from a puppy, and she said "not really I have four children" at this point I let rip I told her that was no excuse that she shouldnt have a dog if she had all those other responsibilities , I told her it wasnt the dogs fault it was hers!!!

She was very upset and apologetic and I calmed down and told her of a good trainer locally whos had gsd for 40yrs who may be able to help

My lovely boy was lucky and has gotten away with puncture wounds but im so worried now this episode is going to make him fearful of other dogs, and I know now Im going to be on pins when Im out walking incase I come across her again.
Unbelieavably she told me she was heading for the canal as it was quiet on there during the day!  I told her at this time of the day there were lots of little old laides walking their westies etc...and if it would have got hold of one of those it would have killed it

Im still shaken up over this and just cant believe anyone woujld take a dog out off lead knowing it was agressive to other dogs in a rural dog walking area!  

im sorry you've had such a dreadful day, hugs coming your way. xx

such a shock for you glad your boy is not badly injured and now safe at home. Sorry this had to happen to you on such a sad day here is a big{{{{HUG}}}}

Roni

What an awful day for you, hopefully your boy's sweet & social nature will mean he doesn't lose his confidence with other dogs.  I'm not suprised her dog is aggressive if she uses electrocution instead of a 'leave' command, I thought GSD's responded well to training???

(((Hugs))) to you and your boy and RIP dear equine friend

Oh dear. I'm so sorry about your horse, and what an awful experience. Poor GSD as well -if she used an electric shock collar and shocked it when he ran towards another dog, he did exactly what most dogs would do -reacted to the pain by attacking the first thing he saw -your poor dog. :(

So sorry you have had such an awful day. Try not to worry about your lovely boy, I am sure he will be fine. My girl was the victim of an unprovoked attack by a Ridgeback and GSD and sustained several puncture wounds to her face and a nasty tear to her chest. She was very lucky as the GSD was already muzzled and the owners were way way in the distance, so things could have been worse. Like you I worried myself silly about the long term phsycological damage, but she was absolutley fine.

so sorry to hear of your dreadful day--the opposite of what you could have done with! I haven't got any good advice to give, just a hug  and hopes for a better day tomorrow xxx

so very sorry to hear about you losing your horse..my heart goes out to you..  What a terrible ordeal you went tho too with you dog.. that woman with the German shepherd really sounds like she shouldnt have it.. Poor dog.. really hope that your dog is okay and not too stressed out after his shocking ordeal..  big hugs to you both...

Oh no, what a dreadful thing to happen, and so sorry about your horse too :(

It is very probable as has been already said, that the dog was reacting badly because of the collar - dogs associate pain with what is near them sometimes, and if he was not socialised and a bit "funny" with other dogs, and then a shock collar was used on him, that could explain his behaviour; howeverof course he may have been like this before the collar use. Whatever, it won't have helped *rolleyes*
I expect too that the collar was working - but, he's learnt to fight through it and ignore it because of becoming habituated, or else because he believes the other dog is the cause of the pain and so he just launches himself to get rid of it and also, in his eyes, the pain.
Whatever, she's made her dog believe other dogs are totally unpleasant and not to be trusted.
Makes me mad!

Good on your for sending her to someone who may help. If you see her again, and you get half a chance, do also recommend www.apbc.org.uk as they have experienced members country wide that are used to dealing with dog-dog aggression problems.

Lindsay
x

what a terrible thing to happen on such a sad day for you, hopefully your boy will be fine he sounds very well rounded x

Ah hugz to you on your terrible day, hope your boy is feeling better, as for the lady with the gsd he should have been on a lead if she knows he has a problem, and yes gsd's do respond quickly to correct training, not electric collars, grr! they are a sensitive breed and respond to gentle training, and praise.

Thanks all for your Kind Comments ! Im hoping I dont bump into that woman and her dog again but Im hoping she gets him sorted out I like German Shepherds and know in the right hands can be lovely dogs

I was worried about going out this morning, but we met a friend and her whippet in the park and walked with her, we met the usual mix of dogs and my boy was fine and his usual self with them, so hopefully no lasting impressions of the episode yesterday.

Can I just say the electric collar on the gsd yesterday wasnt working, thats why said the owner he'd failed to stop attacking because it didnt activate!  No idea if it would have stopped him if it had worked, either way I dont like electric collars and told the owner so.
All the fault lies with the owner in my opinion why have a dog if youre not prepared to put the effort in ? 

Thanks again
xx

Glad your walk was nice today, and great your boy was fine with the dogs on his walk, he will be fine now im sure,

It may have failed to activate this time (although not sure that she can be certain it didn't, he may have just been too hyped uo to notice), but i bet she's used it before when he's reacted to another dog making him more likely to attack the thinkg that he "thinks" is causing him pain.
Very sad.
Hope everything goes ok for you and your boy.

Oh how awful for you.   Are you okay?   You try and protect your dog and when that happens it makes you want to cry...   How is your dog?  

I was in the park with my GR a few months back.   I was chatting to a man who has two lovely rescue dogs and our dogs were all playing together - it was lovely to see.   Suddenly a Staffy headed towards my boy and took hold of his neck.   I could see as the dog walked towards us that 'he meant business'.   No owner around.   I started kicking the dog to make it let go.   I had my wellingtons on and I was kicking as hard as I could but he wouldnt let my dog go.  Then I put my hand in his to try and separate the teeth so he would let go.   (I had my fleece gloves on.)  He bit me then.

Then his owner arrived on the scene.   She was a VERY fat woman and was out of breath.   She asked if my dog was okay and the man who Id been chatting to told her that hed bitten me too e said hed never done anything like that before and took him away.  The man put our dogs on leads and walked me to the car.   I was absolutely shaken and my hand was hurting and there was blood everywhere.    My boy had a small wound, it cleaned up okay.   I had to go to the hospital, have tablets, etc, etc.  

I dont like Staffies now and if I see one coming, I always walk the other way.   I dont let my dog near them and he is happy to keep away from them.   Hes a GR - soft, playful, not too brave...

I called the police a few days later but they werent interested - the policewoman sounded bored on the phone as though I had disturbed her afternoon nap (really!) and wanted details of the woman.   I told her I knew where the woman lives and could show her but whilst my dog and I were in pain and streaming blood, I didnt wait to get details.  Then I rang the dog warden and left a mesage but he hasnt bothered to get back and I doubt he will now.  

If it had been a child that that dog had got hold of, I doubt the child would have lived to tell the tale.   I heard from someone else in the park that that isnt the first time that dog has bitten

 

Hi Michelle

Sounds like youre episode was worse than mine! 

Its so damn annoying people with nasty dogs dont keep them on the lead when they know what theyre like!   I hate stereotyping breeds but I like you stay away from staffies and all the bull breeds, Its just sad they attract the wrong sort of people because theyre not all bad dogs, a chap who used to go to obedience had a lovely staffie that had one of the best temperaments there, he was a nice chap though, had plenty of time for the dog and got him socialised properly .

Im lucky to live in a nice area (it does make a difference) and 99% of the dogs that walk in the country park are well socialised friendly dogs and there are rarely any incidents, however all us "regular" dog walkers avoid it over the weekend when the place changes, at weekend the "town folk" visit and bring with them their non socialised dogs who they have no control off andd it makes it a scary place

Unfortunately the police dont get involved in dog incidents at all unless the dog has bit a person and broke the skin, incidents of dog on dog are passed to the dog warden.  

Ive had a nice walk today and we bumped into a large german shepherd who looked similar to the one who attacked my boy the other day, I grabbed my lad immediately but the owner shouted he was friendly, and he was and they ran round together, I was so pleased as I though he may freak at seeing it .

Hope youre boy is ok now, it is a horrid situation as it puts you and youre dog on edge when something like this happens and spoils the walking.  Selfish people are to blame

x

> the owner shouted he was friendly, and he was and they ran round together, I was so pleased as I though he may freak at seeing it .
>

I'm so pleased for you that your boy responded so well.  My sincere condolences on the loss of your beloved horse.

{{{{  HUGS  }}}}

Hi Michelle
agree totaly with JeanSW

the owner shouted he was friendly, and he was and they ran round together, I was so pleased as I though he may freak at seeing it . >
I'm so pleased for you that your boy responded so well.  My sincere condolences on the loss of your beloved horse. {{{{  HUGS  }}}} [/tt