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By suejaw
Date 27.12.09 14:40 UTC
I've been flicking through various websites and it appears that we are in for another cold spell and it looks like its likely to snow on NYE!!! Quite excited by that, i think...
That is if the Met Office are worth trusting!!
By JeanSW
Date 27.12.09 15:20 UTC

Still haven't had any here! Guess it's because I'm in a valley, so quite sheltered. It did rain earlier on, but not for long. Sun has been out for the last couple of days.
according to the bbc , tues and wed are going to heavy snow for north wales north west england and the midlands cant wait the dogs will have a ball !

No more snow please LOL, its nice when not working but had to go on the bus to work last Wed the normal 30/45 minute journey in a car took 3 Hrs!(over an hour stood in the freezing cold) The snow that was 8inches Wed has now all but gone and I don't want it back :-( for the return to work Tues. BAH HUMBUG LOL :-)

Not looking forward to it. Today is the first day that it's been safe to venture outside on foot and now we are only going to have two days reprieve! Shouldn't complain really as this is my first time in 38 years of my life that we've had weather like this in Manchester.

Diane, I've seen worse over this side, was saying to Steve I remember about 92/93 having to change his tyre on his old Capri in at least a foot of snow here :-) Made us feel really ancient LOL Angela x
By Paula
Date 27.12.09 18:21 UTC

Whereabouts are you Diane? Here in Stockport the roads are fine but the pavements are terrible, like an ice rink.

Wythenshawe. Pavements I think, are clear today but supposedly there's more coming tomorrow.
By Paula
Date 28.12.09 12:28 UTC

Don't know whether to be glad there's more on the way or not! I love the snow and the kids and dogs have such a lot of fun in it but I hate it when it's like this, on it's way out and icy.
> it appears that we are in for another cold spell and it looks like its likely to snow on NYE!!!
YAY, we haven't had any 'proper' snow yet, just a thin spirinkle, it'd be nice to have a good few inches of snow that makes that lovely crunching sound when you walk in it :)
My OH is not happy with this cold weather, he has been planning a carp-fishing trip with his mate for weeks now
(his mate is a retained fireman so has to book time off in advance), they had planned to go yesterday to Oxford and spend 2 nights fishing, only to find the lake was frozen. After a lot of 'phoning around they found somwhere else to go that had an un-frozen lake, they got there yesterday evening, struggled to set-up in the dark and woke up early-hours to find the lake was freezing
(they woke up to the sound of thier bite-alarms thinkning they had caught a fish, but it was the ice forming moving thier fishing lines, LOL). The lake is now frozen and they are heading back home, feeling very frustrated and they are both very grumpy about it, LOL

all of ours has gone now thank god. not the easiest things to wheel on or walk with crutches on
By suejaw
Date 02.01.10 17:20 UTC
More SnOW and moer snow and more snow all on its way to us if SKY and the BBC are to believed!!!
SHould be interesting don't you think??/
4 inches already in east lancashire supposed to be more later on. Size of tennis balls the flakes were.
By kayc
Date 02.01.10 19:04 UTC
Edited 02.01.10 19:11 UTC
Personally, I think you have all got off lightly, up here, I have been snowed/iced in since Christmas eve.. milk tankers are not getting through so we are throwing thousands of gallons of milk away everyday.. it has been snowing here everyday since 22nd December.. and not a hope in he** of a thaw for at least another week, we are sitting on temps of -15.. running out of coal, and heating oil, with no way of getting any through..
think yourself lucky you dont have snow!
Be careful what you wish for...
Biggest worry... God help us if we need the vet..
By suejaw
Date 02.01.10 19:20 UTC
Edited 02.01.10 19:33 UTC
> we are throwing thousands of gallons of milk away everyday
Oh god Kay didn't realise you were on a farm too. That never good news when it snows then, much i keep praying for it, we too live on a farm and it drives the family nutty when it does snow, soo much more work to contend with. When i end up being snowed in i help out with feeding the animals whch seems to take forever to do..
ETA there was no way anything but a snow plough or the best 4x4's were going to get to us the other day when it snowed, it drifts pretty badly up here, shoulder height on me in places..
Where are you. People think a few inches is bad but nothing in comparison to you, think they need a day in your shoes. Personally i dont mind it but its not that bad here, and the dogs love it when out and about best bit they dont get muddy!
By kayc
Date 02.01.10 19:32 UTC
I dont live on the farm Sue, but I am circled by quite a few.. , and all around me are barely surviving.. Trying to get feed up onto the hills for the sheep takes forever... helping out with that, and I am not the best person to drive a quad lol... The sheep and cattle are breaking down the fencing to try and find grass.. but this is nothing compared to the milking farms who are literally throwing their liveliehood down the drain...
Dont get me wrong... I love the snow, and the dogs are ecstatic, (to be fair, I think they are getting a bit cheesed of with it now too lol) and during the winter months we are quite often snowed in, but this has never lasted for any longer than a few days at a time..
I still have my family Chistmas presents here, as I was unable to get out for Christmas (or boxing day as planned) and still to have my Christmas dinner, which I am told is now waiting for me in my daughters freezer :-)
While I am on a moaning spree.. could I also ask those of you who love the snow, and think its wonderful.. to take a moment.. and think of people who dont.. like the elderly, infirm, many of whom dont have family to help out.. If you do live in a badly affected area.. knock on a door, pop in.. just check they have any needs covered..
oops.. soap box folded up and shoved away lol...

I know what you mean Kay and we are no where near as bad as you as we live right next to a main road - snowed again today - we must have about 10 inches on our roof which is a huge amount for Fife. My OH has about 18 inches at his workshop in Perthshire. No one seems to clear their own paths or the pavement in front of their house either so the pavements are a disaster area! Our horse lives out and has no grass to eat so hay bale has now been put in field but they are so bored and we can't take her out because the road is so icy it would be dangerous to even take her up to the yard.
Dogs are loving it but Bramble hurt her shoulder just before the snow started and every time she slips on the ice she jerks it again - which is a shame becaus she justs loves to play in snow! (and lie in it - typical Bernese!)
I was out clearing my path of, oh, at least 1 1/2 cm of snow when it started again ;-) In other words we don't have much yet :-) My daughter, on the other hand, can't go home yet :-( She is here until the roads up north (Aberdeenshire) have been cleared enough for her to get home.
Anyone know where the off switch is on a 2 year old child????????? Even the dogs have had enough.......
By kenya
Date 02.01.10 21:33 UTC

We have had a bit of snow, hail, sleet today its about 4 inches in Aberdeenshire, and our road is never cleared, as we live in the sticks!
Hoping it okay tomorrow as my FIL needs to go home!
By Dogz
Date 02.01.10 23:12 UTC
> While I am on a moaning spree.. could I also ask those of you who love the snow, and think its wonderful.. to take a moment.. and think of people who dont.. like the elderly, infirm, many of whom dont have family to help out.. If you do live in a badly affected area.. knock on a door, pop in.. just check they have any needs covered..
>
It's key really...........We must all think of others when it is like this.
Currently all is good here with no sign of any problems, even so when it comes it never hangs around for more than a day or so.
We must always be aware of those who could do with a hand though. And make certain we act and not not just talk/think about it.
Karen
By JeanSW
Date 02.01.10 23:37 UTC
> Personally, I think you have all got off lightly, up here, I have been snowed/iced in since Christmas eve..
I can't even imagine what that is like. Still haven't seen any, although surrounding areas have had it. Sunny most days, although freezing cold. We did have a tiny shower of rain today, but it didn't come to much. Forecast is for more sun, but cold.
roll on summer!my dogs dont like snow either!we re all wusses here!

with all the snow thought this may be of interest regarding clearing your paths!!
Brief encounter: clearing the snow
Do I have to clear the ice from the pavement in front of my house?Mark Loveday
Recommend?
Q: My garden path leads down to the pavement on the road outside my house. When it snows, the council takes ages to clear snow and ice from the road and the pavement. Some of my neighbours carefully sweep and grit their paths and the stretch of pavement outside their homes. I have never done this. What is the legal position with clearing snow and ice from the street and my path?
A: Your local authority is responsible for clearing snow and ice from the public highway and pavement. Under Section 41(1A) of the Highways Act 1980, the council must ensure that safe passage along a highway is not endangered by snow or ice. If the local authority fails to act, you can apply to the magistrates' court under the same legislation for an order to unblock the highway within a reasonable period - although such orders are very rare indeed.
Private landowners are not obliged to clear snow or ice from the highway, even if the road or pavement passes over their land. Indeed, from a legal point of view it may be risky for private individuals to clear these areas. By sweeping snow from one part of the pavement you can create a danger in another area and if someone is injured, you will be liable for negligence or nuisance.
On your own land, it is a different matter. You owe visitors a duty under the Occupiers Liability Act 1984 to take reasonable care to ensure that they are reasonably safe. This means that if you know someone (such as the postman) is likely to walk up your garden path, and you also know that the garden path is slippery, you must take reasonable steps to clear the path of snow and grit it if necessary.
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Property advice from the experts
However, you should not simply brush the snow from your path on to the public pavement. It is also a public nuisance to block the pavement of the road by sweeping snow from your property on to the highway.
Your neighbours are therefore quite right to clear their own paths, but are taking a legal risk in clearing the public pavement - no matter how public-spirited their actions may seem.
Very interesting. Our street has seen a gritter twice, maybe 3 times in the last 2 weeks. The pavements have never been gritted in the 9 years I have lived here.......
We have a grit box and some of us do clear the paths to our houses, and the pavement outside our property, using the grit from the box. Others don't even clear their paths.
By JeanSW
Date 04.01.10 22:49 UTC
> some of us do clear the paths to our houses, and the pavement outside our property
Back in the 70's when I bought my first house, it was common courtesy to do so. It was a terraced street, and we all cleared and salted the pavement in front of our houses. Is it old fashioned to do so now???
> Very interesting. Our street has seen a gritter twice, maybe 3 times in the last 2 weeks.
Wow, you're lucky! Since the snow fell it is only Inchture Main St that has been gritted, every side road & cul de sac has been left untouched. I was really surprised even in Birkhill today, a snow plough has pushed the snow from roads into the gutter so there is no way you can park even close to the pavement unless you want to rip the bottom of your car out with frozen heaps of snow.
By Cani1
Date 04.01.10 23:25 UTC

We live in a cul-de-sac and for years my hubby bought grit and would clear the road , however he stopped this a couple of years ago after hearing he could be liable if there was an accident and it hadn't been cleared properly.
Sad really when you can't even help your neighbours just incase something does happen .
We are due more this evening and tomorrow too, the sky is turning white again before my eyes, might have the boys home with me again if we are snowed in as hubby pinches my Land Rover, unfortunately we have no gritters down the country lanes where I live. :-( Plus side, I love looking at it and doing the dog walk in snow (no muddy feet!) and the dogs love it don't they? :-D
By rjs
Date 05.01.10 10:15 UTC
We were in Perth the Tuesday between Christmas and New Year and it was terrible considering it is a busy city! The snowplough had been through the city centre clearing the roads although they still leave a layer of snow, the pavements had had the little plough down them too so all the cars that were parked were well and truly stuck with feet of snow around them!! It was awful on foot when it came to crossing the roads too.
I'm in Stonehaven, up hill from the town centre and we haven't seen a gritter on the road or pavement since well before Christmas! Everything is covered in a really thick layer of ice with snow on top now too. We are in a dead end street so we usually don't see any gritters despite the fact that they drive by the end of our street umpteen times a day! The secondary school is across the road from us and our street is full of cars when school comes out and parents come to pick up their kids which just makes things worse when it's icy. OH has tried to clear the pavement infront of our house but can't because the ice is so thick. He took a pick axe to the ice on our drive and only managed to roughen it up a bit so there is a bit of grip. The local paper yesterday had an article about the lack of gritting causing a knock on effect in the NHS as so many more people have fallen!

having this much snow is like being a kid again! how many years is it since we had snow like this at the "proper" time of year?
> Very interesting. Our street has seen a gritter twice, maybe 3 times in the last 2 weeks.
>Wow, you're lucky! Since the snow fell it is only Inchture Main St that has been gritted, every side road & cul de sac has been left untouched.
Gritter came up again this morning ;-) I am very surprised as my road goes into a field :-) There are only 8 houses too.
On the bad side I have company for a few more days. My daughter was due to go home today but the village she lives in is snowed in :-( Poor dogs and cat. They have to put up with my over active 2 year old grandaughter for a bit longer :-D

No gritters here in South Manchester, not even on the main roads. Managed to get to work in the van this morning, carpark was only about a third full. It is snowing right now, only lightly but persistently. Just hoping that I can get my van out of work today as I parked it where it stopped this morning.
How can something that looks so beautiful be so horrible.
By Pookin
Date 05.01.10 16:05 UTC

I agree it is horrible :(
I was so excited when it snowed last week and enjoyed sledging for an hour but none of it has melted away and it's snowed more and more, been stuck for ages now and we can't even get the 4x4 out.
We've run out of coal, running out of food, a lot of neighbours have run out of oil for the central heating, my feet are cold, my bones hurt, I'm hungry and I keep falling over when I walk the dogs. Boohoohoo.
Feel better after having that whinge :)

well my garden is starting to fill with the white stuff! Here in Hampshire we are due more heavier snow over night, :)
By tooolz
Date 05.01.10 17:29 UTC
RAIN battering down here on the south coast....... -5 forecast tonight....oh joy of joys...a skating rink.
My lot would love the snow but an inch of ice......lethal :-(

We have not been rid of the snow since it started mid December. The dogs are loving it. Not so sure about me though. Ive had enough now
Jean

from the time we sat down for dinner to clearing the plates away, it has snowed so much that you cant see your road, cars are driving very slowly, dogs are loving the weather though! :)
Had an awful experience today.
I live in the midlands and when I left for work it was snowing but ok, and drive-worthy, so I made the 13 miles to work and arrived at 9am, by half ten my dad was on the phone telling me to get home as it was six inches thick where they live and its four miles from where me and my partner live (my dad goes mad if I have time off work so if he tells me to come home I listen, and I'm 27!!).
At eleven I decided to leave, I work at offices adjoined to my boss's house so to be fair I could have stayed, had I have not forgotten to return my mother in laws spare key so she could have fetched the dogs! So off I set, get about 6 miles of the way home and encounter a fairly steep hill, take it steady, and next thing I know I'm doing 360 degree turns in the road! I did two of these that I managed to sort, reciting the Highway Code in my mind "Drive into the skid" etc etc (I am a trainee driving instructor just about to take my final exams and I was scared!) but on the third one I was well and truly stuck, diagonally across the road. Anyhow, behind me was a big queue and two kind gentlemen who moved the car to the side of the road, and one of the guys was in a 4x4 so offered to take me another 2 miles or so to where his partner worked as he was going to collect her. When we got there one of the employees offered to take me home in his 4x4 which took another 2 hours nearly to go perhaps 4 miles! So I got home at 1.40pm, minus a car, nearly three hours after leaving work which is 13 miles away!
The car is still there. I probably could have gotten it down the hill but at the bottom was a van that was stuck and a car and two gentlemen in the road trying to move this van. I had awful visions of my car spinning into them and injuring us all, and it just wasn't worth the risk.
I have always enjoyed the snow but I am having second thoughts now.......
I am so grateful to those two guys, it just goes to show that there are some good people out there still.
Nicki xx
By suejaw
Date 05.01.10 19:32 UTC
Just started here now, really coming down and fine powder balls too!!!
PS that sounds horrendous, glad you are ok now and safe inside.. Not worth risking your life or anyone elses when weather like this.. Though i know some people will try their hardest to get to work, as many people don;t want to loose them.

my dad is stuck at midhurst junction :( people leaving their cars, wish i could do something to get him home safe :( :(

4 inches here just fallen and counting - may not sound like much but I live on the coast and we've had over 20 years worth of snow in the last 11 months! There are 20 year old 'kids' here who had never known a snowfall in their back garden until last Feb. Snow on a beach is odd and rare and well worth seeing.
Talking of kids.... I think I am going to wrap up warm, slap some vaseline on my doggy's paws and GO HAVE FUN! (Especially as the snow seems to have knocked out my TV aerial and I have missed the show about Allen Parton & Endal on Sky 3).
By goldie
Date 05.01.10 21:39 UTC

We are in south devon and its snowing all around us,but not where we are...not had a speck of the stuff....yet.
It does give heavy snow tonight for east devon so maybe it will reach us....see what the morning brings.
By suejaw
Date 05.01.10 21:54 UTC
> have knocked out my TV aeria
People in my area seem to have the same problem with sky too.

we have 9 inches of snow so far and more falling, my OH has to keep going outside to brush the snow off our sky dish so that we can continue to watch tv! :)

My vans at work, finished early at 3.15 person who tried to pull me out brought me home
By suejaw
Date 05.01.10 23:05 UTC
9 inches, wow most men would be proud of that.. ;-)
> 9 inches, wow most men would be proud of that.. ;-)
yeah but they wouldn't let the dogs anywhere near it........;)
By Lissie-Lou
Date 06.01.10 04:35 UTC
Edited 06.01.10 04:40 UTC

Starting to get a bit concerned here in Ceredigion. I live on a tiny lane that's never gritted, the only things that are managing to get up and down here are tractors, the road is just pure ice. Thankfully one of the farmers down the road has said he'll help out if I need anything, otherwise there would be no chance of me getting anywhere!
I'm more worried about my animals than anything else, if anything were to go wrong with them, there's no way of getting a vet here, or getting them to a vet.
Stay safe everyone.
Here in Winchester its coming down again, told most of our workmen to stay at home and we will call it a day if it gets too deep.
Colin still walked in with our two dogs who loved it!!! I drove in carefully (4X4) so no real panic. Sam in kent is snowed in (Sandwich Bay). Ben in Winchester walked up the hill to work avoiding all cars slipping down the hill.
Cant see a lot of traffic on the road, a few walkers. Meonstoke Village Hall opened last night and helped serving drinks to stranded motorists who stayed overnight.
Keep warm people.
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