pups are nearly 3weeks old and mum just dont want to feed them ? im thinking her milk has almost gone as shes not eating much and not drinking much! she runs when i ask her to get in with them ? ive done all the cutting nails every other day!....their teeth are coming though but arnt very sharp yet so its not that! im giving 4 meals aday and they woof (sorry lol) it down and then i ask mum to go in to give them a drink ,she runs :( ....so the thing is im going to give 5 meals and inbetween give milk (goats milk room temp) and try and get mum to feed at least 3 times aday ? do you think thats ok for 3week old pups?

thanks x

I wouldn't force the issue.  Just ask her to lie down twice a day and at 3 weeks, they'll be fine on 5 meals a day with goats milk in between. :)
Maybe she be more happy to spend time with them if they don't try to drink all the time.

if mum has no milk left I  would top them up with a bottle morning and night for the next few days left then as westcoast suggests 5 meals a day and lapping milk from a bowl. I am sure then mum would be much happier to be with them as they will leave her alone or just maybe have a comfort suck.

their lapping realy well now ,theres no why they will take a bottle lol i wish they would so id know how much milk each 1 was taking !!
thanks both of you :) xx

what about though the night? will pups be ok if mum dont feed them ? if i make sure they have a drink about midnight will they be able to go till 6am without milk ...mum can get in and out of pen ,i will leave her in the room with them , so is 6h to long without milk at night?

if they are lapping then I wouldnt be worrying WL I thought they were not  getting fluids I  never gave bottle in the night  when bottle feeding  in the later stages such as this.

If they are on solids they get enough water from the food

thankyou roni ,didnt think thay could go all night at this age ...maybe i will start and go to bed now and get 6hours sleep :) :) xx....BLISS..... ;)

can you help with this ? ok when pups are cryin and fussing around in the pen ,or playin and weein ,pooin....mum stands outside the pen and crys? so i ask her to go in but she not! she just sits and crys ,i dont know what to do for the best? x

WL my girl got I had tp coax her in with a biscuit!!!  By 3 1/2 weeks she didnt want to stay with them through the night and that is when I got back into my bed :-)  They would have a late feed from her 12-1 am and that seen them through until the morning.  I made sure they had water through the night.  My girl was happier at this stage to lay on the floor in the livingroom and feed them than the whelping box. 

Can you put a piece of Vetbed on the floor wherever she's happy and get her to lie on that?  Then put the pups on there and let them suckle making a big fuss of her or feeding her titbits?

She is probably finding them overwhelming.

My Tula (now gone to the bridge) was like this with her first litter,s eh loved puppies, but once they got to the teeth stage found ti just all too much, she wanted in with them on the one hand but just found them descending on her hard to cope with and you could see her steeling herself to go in with them, which being a very natural Mum she did but wasn't enjoying it.  With her next litter it was different,s eh had grown up a lot and learnt that she could tell the pups off if they got too rough and really enjoyed her puppies.

Can't remember how big this litter is, but have you thought of getting her to lie down and putting on two or three pups at a time so the feeding isn't so frenzied.

thankyou every1 she has 8 pups ,i will put vet bed down in living room and bring them to her ,they are in the next room (dinning room) but i do keep the door open all the time for mum to come and go ,i know with how she goes that she wants them she just gets very frightend i think ..bless her! so ill see how we go doing that thanks xx