MY bitch had pups 5 months ago and i sold a puppy to a friend that live literally 15 seconds walk from me.I wish i had never sold her the puppy now as the puppy is put in a cupboard under the stairs with anothe mix breed pup,the pup is happy in herself and is fed well its just the owner goes out most of the day and both the pups are left on their own,recently the owner has been want ing to sell the 2 puppys as the are wrecking and trashing the hope,ive told her the dogs need walking atleast 3 times aday but they never do get walked,the puppy i sold my friend hasnt had no jabs done or microchip either.in the last 2 months the pup has got out of the home 4 times and 3 of those times has come straight to my house but today being the 4th time got hit by a car then some one brang her back to my home,thankfully when i put her in with my 3 staffs she was jumping around and playing with them and she is all good and well.i phoned the rspca and spoke to a lady about rights and if i had any she advised me that i sold the pup to my friend so the dog is my friends and said to me to offer to buy the dog back,i would gladly give her the money for her except im a single parent now and dont have that cash about ive offrered to buy her back over weekly payment but my friend wants what she paid for her wich is 250 the dog is not looked after,not walked locked under the stairs most of the day with the other pup,my so called friend has already had the rspca round once about the dogs being locked up but have not done to much about it,i feel really guilty that i sold the pup to her as shes not getting the loving happy life that she should get naturally.is there anything i can do or do i have any rights to the pup at all.i cant bear to see such a beautu=iful dog not have a happy life when she could be with a family that will give her all she needs.i would have her bk today if i had the money  but its just not possible at the moment.please help me  and let me know if ive any rights at all

Nope as the RSPCA told you, you have no rights as you sold the dog to this "friend" so legally the dog belongs to her.  Not sure what to sugest can't see that there is much you can do, just another staffie being abused like so many now adays I see them everywhere and the free ads are full of them for sale or free to good homes.  I hope your "friend" finds a new home for the dog its the least she should do wheather it be you or someone else. 

Hi, Sorry to hear this. Could you offer to have the pup back while you look for a new home for it, that way you would be able to vet the new owners and make sure a suitable new home is found, then pay her the rehoming fee?

Good luck Lois

Well i know nobody else will say this but they will all be thinking it, so here goes.

I cannot begin to tell you how angry this has made me, and i don't just mean at the person who bought the pup either. Don't you people understand the concept of responsible breeding? The fact you are a single parent who can't afford to buy the pup back makes it pretty obvious why these pups were bred in the first place. Do you watch the TV programmes about what is happening to the tens of thousands of Staffys in rescue centres all around the UK with your eyes shut or something? I honestly despair with some people. You might well think what your friend is doing is wrong but you have played a fundamental part in this by bringing these pups into the world in this first place then selling them to people you know are not going to have time for them. God this makes me so mad.

to be fair we do not know if the origonal posters circumstances have changed since she bred the pup.
maybe give her benefit of doubt as at least trying to do right thing now.

to the orgional poster.
I appreciate you are short of cash but can you raise £100?  flog stuff on ebay? a carboot sale?
offer your 'friend' £100 for the pup .  if she doesn't want the pup then she'll almost certainly take it as she won't get any more then that for a second hand half grown staffy pup .  I see enough adverts trying to give them away.  cute baby ones may have value but the rescues are full to brim of older youngsters and adults so no way will she get £250 for the her. 

as for 'rights' to the pup. you have none. once sold she doesn't belong to you. thats why I had my maiden weimaraner bitch spayed last week. Its damn hard to find really good homes for dogs, breeding dogs costs money, doesn't make it unless you are utterly ruthless. and whats happening to the dogs bred can be a worry for rest of their lives. personally I don't want the stress or expense.

and so another pup is condemned to a ******** life
How well did you know here before you sold her the puppy? Did you know she had the other dog and the circumstances it was kept in?

The law is such that whoever has possession of the dog is the owner.  If you rehomed a dog and wanted it back you couldn't just go and collect it once you've left the house.

My daughter left her pom with a friend whilst she went away, said friend decided she liked this dog and refused to give it back, the police could do nothing and solicitors advised her of the same, even with her microchip docs, his DNA profile, his KC registration docs mean't not a jot.  The only reason daughter got her dog back was because so many folk locally knew he was her's and harassed said 'friend' everytime she was out with or without the dog until she returned him - it was the worst wk of our lives but a lesson learned.

Why did you allow her to have a puppy in the first place, you must have known what she was like....now the pup has to suffer.

That wonderland program sprang to mind straight away for me, sorry, i don't want to say no more

For Lel, Goldie and Justme:

An excerpt from Champdogs Terms of Service, it is bullet point No:5

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I havent been judgemental - I asked a valid question. Thankyou for reminding me of the rules but I am already aware of them. I would like an apology please as you have assumed something into my question that wasnt there

A difficult one :(

As you can't afford to buy the pup back do you think you could convince your 'friend' to allow you to find somebody else to buy the pup then you could pay her back.

Your 'friend' may be glad of the offer as she sounds like she's not coping well herself with the two young dogs.

Best of luck.

Obvious solution: Next time dog gets out and comes back to your house spirit it away. It does mean that you will have to perhaps take it to a rescue centre as far away as possible, or get a trusted person to look after it while you rehome it, which will require some effort on your part. With any luck she won't put herself out too much to look for it.

Yes it adds to the burden of rescue homes who already have staffies coming out of their ears, but at least it she might get a chance at a better life than she has now (make sure it is a no kill shelter).  And please.....do not breed any more dogs.

the Staffie poem came to mine :-( ,

like someone else on here said i'd ask the friend to look after the pup while you help her find a buyer for him/her ,
I wish you the best of luck for your poor puppys sake xx

> the Staffie poem came to mine :-( ,
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http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/119864.html#fp

It might be worth pointing out to the so called friend that a 'Bird in the hand' i.e. what the breeder can afford is better than two in a bush with staffies being two a  penny in the free adds and an older untrained pup having little re-sale value.

Was there a contract regarding return if things didn't work out?  If so even though you can't make it stick it is a lever.