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i had a phone call last night from a lady asking if i could help her.i politely listened to the lady telling me all about the problems with her two adult female rottweilers she has living in her garden.
she wants "RID" is the word she used.theyre tareing up her garden and barking all day.so i tried asking questions to try and help her out a bit.saying how often do they get excersize what do you feed and how often ect.basic stuff.
she said they dont get out as she dont get time so after all this i felt sick these poor girls are bored stiff.
anyway it turns out she wants me to HAVE them.please tell me where someone gets the front from to demand i take them on or ill be to blame for them being sent to a rescue somewhere and pts if they dont find homes.she really laid into me saying call yourself a rottie lover how dare you preach to me about caring for animals when i clearly dont care at all.
and the weiredst thing of all is i got off the phone upset and ened up crying cos i felt sorry for the girls and was seriously considering taking them in.
but how can i??
i dont have any shelter for them its nearly xmas id have to find money to jab them feed them buy them bedding a radiator for the shed which is the ONLY place i have.
what if theyre not very freindly i have kids and my dogs are all lovely.i cant do it i just cant.but she called me asking for help and i feel ive let the dogs down,never mind her i couldnt care less about how she feels she dont care about the dogs all she kept saying was oh i cant keep them no matter what.
i actaully feel sick.ill bet these girls are just bored.the phone call seemed to last for ages but once it was all over i couldnt remember much about what she'd said pleease tell me that makes sense??lol.
she left me no number and i dialed 1471 but it was witheld.so i dunno whats gonna happen to these girls im so upset.i should have just said yes ill take them and decided HOW later.
what do i do if she calls back?she said she'd give me time to think and call monday morning.im so upset.i feel bad for the two girlies in the garden.i have allsorts running through my mind.
this isnt the first time someone called me and asked me to take their dogs either,this happened nealy two years ago too.why me.
Hiya,
I'm a bit confused as to why this lady called you - are they dogs you bred, or are you anything to do with rottie rescue or is it someone you know? If you don't know anything about their temprement or nature and have no way or keeping your dogs and children and these dogs seperately if needed then it would not be sensible to take them in and even if you were in a position to take them in temporarily you will still need to find rescue places for them as dogs like that are likely to have had a lack of socilisation and need experienced homes and dogs like that are much better off with resuce back up so they don't end up bouncing from home to home.
Your responsibility is to your existing dogs and family, if you want to do something to help then email and call some Rottie rescues and see if you can find them a place so at least you know they will be safe.
Hi Tamara,
I can understand why you feel so upset, what a horrible person this woman sounds. I cant stand people who get a dog/s then either get fed up bored or whatever and then just think they can dump dogs off on the first person they can to 'rid' themselves of a problem they have created?
What a damn cheek to call you up out of the blue and expect you to take these dogs on, like you say you have no idea of their background, what they are like with other dogs etc..I think you are right to say they simply need some excercise and correct care. But its not your job to take them. Why hasnt she contacted the breeder of these dogs? If she got them from a reputable breeder why hasnt she gotten in touch with them, any decent breeder would take the dogs back and find them a more suitable home? If she is going to ring you back I suggest you mention this to her, try and find out who bred these girls and perhaps see if you can get in touch with the breeder to let them know as perhaps they would be horrified if they knew what was happening? or alternatively tell her to contact Rottie rescue make sure you have numbers ready. If you feel you want to get involved in some way then call rescue and if need be go and collect these two girls and take them to the rescue yourself if this woman isnt prepared tom at least that way you will know they are in safe experienced hands and will hopefully find a home more suitable?

You have to be realistic. you said yourself you just dont have the amenities for them and your priority has always got to be your family. if one of the kids or other dogs got bit you would never forgive yourself. this women was trying to guilt you in to it as she wants "rid" quick. dont worry yourself over it. there is nothing you can do. the time to worry is when you DON'T feel guilt... then its time to give it all up.
it wouldnt be fair on the dogs if you had them then couldnt cope with them.... they'd be moving twice. if they are nice friendly dogs im sure that they we be adopted, so dont beat yourself up about it.
> I'm a bit confused as to why this lady called you - are they dogs you bred, or are you anything to do with rottie rescue or is it someone you know?
nope.i have no idea who she is or why she called me.she said she stumbled across my website and saw how nice my dogs looked in the pics on the beach ect and said she felt this was the place she wanted them to go.
if they were dogs i had bred for one:id not allow two pups to go together and two id have had them back in a flash as i keep in regular contact with ALL of my pups owners accept one.we get the odd pic or txt,but its still contact.
all my pups are doing really well and have been to training classes ect so id have no problems in taking any of them back.i took a male back early last year and he just walked in the house like he'd never left.
if she calls me back im prepared for what to say and what numbers to give and what im going to say its the heartache i cant bare.if she dont like the dogs (which she obviously dont they way she talks about them)its upsetting to see my four all laying warm on a thick rug full bellys and surrounded by love,and knowing these two girlies are out in this weather.it haunts me i could scream.
as for the breeder there is no number for them now.......APPARENTLY.....but with how things are l8ly its hard not to belive her you know....
oh says i need to shut off but i he knows i cant do that.i may try and see if i can meet her and the dogs see how they behve and take them to rescue myself.its just rotts have a hrad time being re homed you know i dont want them getting all exited at a new face and then i dump them too.jeeese i feel so awful.nothing i can think of feels right.nothing.
because your probably a loving caring person not probably you ARE and they can see that in you.they could get good homes fort them if she wanted to but why should she do it if she can get you to home them,they lady wants reporting and i totally agree with you the dogs are b***** boared id say.Bless you it aint your fault but i would call the rspca as they arent being treated properly and cared for either hunni/
i totally agree with you.xxxxxxxx
By JenP
Date 22.11.09 13:34 UTC
If it's happened a few times through your website, why not put a link on there to your breed rescue.
TBH, if she has littermates, it's highly unlikely the breeder is reputable and will give any backup anyway - number or no number. Breed rescue is the place to go, many have foster homes to take dogs like these until they can be rehomed, so please don't give yourself a hard time ;-). It's not your fault or your responsibility, however, if it helps you could always contact your breed rescue and offer to help them in some way.

i suppose just pray she calls back and takes the number is all i can do.or get her number and address and pass them onto the rescue.
thank you for your support,think il be having that glass of wine early tonight.
Hiya again,
I do know how you feel as I have recently been in a similar situation but the owner just dumped her and then I was let know because it is an unusal breed and someone saw her advertised on the pound website and called me as they knew I had experience with the breed and may know where she'd come from. Luckily I am in the posotion where it is just me and animals in the house and I can keep them seperate so I did take her on. However had I felt that I couldn't give her what she needed or that it would negatively affect my existing animals to any degree then I wouldn't have done it but would have like you do felt awful.
All you can do is pass on the numbers and hope she does the right thing by them and have your glass of wine give yours an extra cuddle. If you've been bothered by calls like this before and it's coming from your website would it be worth putting a link on for rescue numbers, don't know if that's easy to do or if you'd want to but it may be an idea.
Take care :-)

yea i have thought about putting the links to a good rescue on the website.ill have to get my freinds to help me cos i can do the basic stuff but er am really no good with complicated stuff.good idea thanks.xxx
By dexter
Date 22.11.09 15:49 UTC

I have been in a position recently where i was contacted by someone i know, who knew someone etc... who asked me to take in a cocker spaniel, because he wasn't house trained at 3 years old and doing the owners heads in! I couldn't take the dog as i already had a dog staying and also having a young dog, it would it have been too much :(
I felt soo bad, but i had to be realistic, but it really wasn't fair on my existing pack and husband who i think would have divorced me at the time LOL.
All i could do at the time was pass on contact details for breed rescue.
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If they are not of your breeding what on earth makes her think you are there to pick up her mess, you have your own dogs to care for, which unlike her you do properly and don't expect someone else to do so.
Does she realise your not a rescue but a private individual owner.
I assume you gave her breed rescue contact info, job done.
As the saying goes, charity begins at home.
By lel
Date 22.11.09 17:32 UTC

I havent read the whole thread but has she contacted the breeder at all
The guilt trip seems to be a common thing that people who want to rehome use with rescue centres as well
Tamara, don't get tooooo upset. It's quite possible this woman was just trying emotional blackmail on you and will either keep the dogs or find a reputable shelter to take them in. You can't be expected to take in dogs just like that on a stranger's whim, well not unless you are a shelter or have a big house/garden and plenty of money.
Hi Tamara,
I think everyone is right by saying you need to put some rescue links/numbers etc. on your website for people to see. I can understand how you feel the need to do something you are quite clearly a very caring person and want to get these dogs away and out of their situation even though they are nothing to do with you. It breaks may heart to think of any dog outside even in a kennel in this weather I just hate it. I do hope you are able to do something even if its a case of collecting them and taking them to rescue.
Hope everything turns out ok.
By Polly
Date 22.11.09 21:59 UTC

Hi Tamara,
I know what you mean by feeling bad because of something that has happened but is beyond your control.
This evening I heard that there is a malamute bitch who is one year old she had nine pups, in the last day or two. She has laid on two and keeps trying to move her babies to the place in the garden shed where she wants to be, which is where she laid on a killed the two pups.
The owners phoned the vet to ask what they can do to stop her. The vet advised constant supervision, to which the vet was told they can't do that and the best they can do is go to the garden shed every two hours. Poor girly it is so cold and wet. I wonder what heating she has?.... bet there isn't any! Otherwise she would not be trying to move her pups to the warmest part of the shed.
Some people don't deserve the dogs they have!

Sadly the best outcome is for them to loose the pups, so hopefully they won't try breeding again. At least they won't be condemned to be bought by impulse buyers who see cute snow dog and know nothing about sled dog breeds and soon tire of them when they reach adolescence.
Oh Tamara, the story of the bitch with the pups just made me cry so much, what is wrong with people?? That poor bitch, if she just has a cold wet shed for shelter those babies will die of the cold if they are young...which sadly as Brainless says will probably be the best outcome as these poeple quite clearly only bred this bitch to make a bit of quick cash and had no regard for her, it just breaks my heart. She must be so stressed trying to care for her babies with no help from her ignorant owners. If you know where they live call the RSPCA and report them, not that I have a lot of faith in the RSPCA anymore but they might at least pay a visit even if they dont take the bitch and pups away it might at least scare the owners into bringing the bitch into the house out of the cold.
Tamara, here big hug (((((((((((((((hug)))))))))))))))))))
I've been there too hun, had many a friend, not even a stranger ask me to have their dogs when they have realised they have made a mistake or things have happened or they want a holiday. I've flately refused, which many haven't understood but I don't care, it's my life and I chose how many dogs I have, not someone else.
Many people just see that my home is generally full of family dogs which I care for whilst they are having days out or on holidays we all take care of one anothers dogs to an outsider they just think hey ho what's another one. :-D A dear friend of mine recently rescued a dalmation and was hinting like crazy for me to have him whilst she went away, I refused to take her up on it, she wanted it, she looks after it, end of.
You have to be tough here, when someone has a dog it is their responsiblity to kennel whilst away and to re-home if they have made a mistake, if you wanted another Rotti you would get one yourself wouldn't you? You don't want someone elses which hasn't been raised to be a lovely dog by yourself, your not a rescue and you owe this person nothing. How dare she say anything negative to you, who does this woman think she is.
It's hard thinking of the dogs, but they are not your problem, the dogs have a breeder whom the lady can contact or the lady will eventually call a Rotti rescue who will assess these dogs and find proper homes for them, if we all let our hearts rule our heads we would all have dozens of dogs, to be honest this woman is trying to bully you into taking these two strange dogs, don't allow this to happen.
Give your dogs a cuddle and think no more about it. There are thousands of dogs in rescue you can't look at them all and feel responsible, you take good care of your dogs, be proud of that it's all you need to think of. :-)

thanks all,i have had no phone call yet and i seem to be wandering around like ive lost something.im waiting for her call,im affraid she'll call and i miss it she might think im ignoring her and not call back.at least if i speak to her again i can rest knowing ive give her the rescue numbers.thats realistically all i can do.
my normal monday morning would start with 5 am walk with dogs b4 getting kids ready for school(dont panic oh is home lol) the washing the windows (inside lol)and the bed covers curtains blah blah blah.....
but today ive got all that on the go and im baking cakes....
i bake cakes when i need to divert my attention/got interview ect.ive not thought about this and this is how mad i am in the head (LOL) i didnt even realise what i had done until i was gettin mixture out of the bowl ,,phone rang converstaion with oh ,,and he says what you up to ?
i tell him and he says.......whyyyy whats happened now??!!!!
am i that predictable? lol i must be lol lol lol
By Jacque
Date 24.11.09 23:06 UTC
Hi. I can give an update on the Mal , they are now hand rearing them and all the pups are in the house. Poor Mum is still in her shed as she isn't allowed in the house :( . Lets hope hand feeding 7 pups puts them off ever doing this again.
Thanks Polly for mentioning them .

Poor girl must be frantic for her babies.
What is the point of having a dog if its just shut outside all the time?? The poor bitch must be frantic without her babies, how cruel. I bet they wont think to check her teats, with no babies to feed she may develop mastitis. What would it hurt to let her into the kitchen with her pups if they dont want her in the rest of the house?

Exactly, with five dogs, especially when it is wet, they dont get to range the house, a baby gate woudl contain her in one area of the house.

Guess at the end of the day these BYB saw the lucrative £ signs,concerned that they have already lost a few hundred pounds and would try to save their remaining bankroll.Makes me so angry,sounds like no concern for the welbeing of mum and guess not a health check in sight.
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