Hi. Been to see my vet with my large breed girl who is now on day 44. The vet advised me to give her Panacur liquid wormer daily now. Some serious show people / breeders told me this is not necessary and that they worm pre mating and post whelping. What you you kind folk do??

I was also advised to get her a herpes jab 10 days before she is due? Never heard of this, anyone else do this?

Thanks for your help.

When was she last wormed? My friend always worms her girl before mating and then not until pups are wormed.

She is always wormed every six months, so it would have been about 12 weeks pre mating.

I have now wormed with the Panacur protocol during pregnancy for 5 generations of bitches and will continue to do so.

I feel this gives the pups the best of starts and never caused the bitch or pups a problem.

I also worm the bitch when she comes in season and the rest of the dogs at the same time.

Everyone then also gets wormed when all the pups have gone.

The life cycle of the round worm is linked to the reproductive cycle of the bitch and therefore the biggest carriers are pregnant bitches and unwormed pups. 

When I first started breeding I had young children and it is unrealistic to think they would wash hands after every contact with the dogs, and also I wanted to minimise contamination of the environment (garden) after all unless you remove the topsoil regularly there is going to be a build up in the soil from your pregnant bitch passing  them.

GG1, what do you worm with? I know with Drontal tablets it's every 3 months, if that is what you use then yes, I would also do what Brainless does.
Is there something that only needs to be used every 6 months?

>Is there something that only needs to be used every 6 months?

No. The life-cycle of the worm (from ingested egg to maturity, shedding eggs) means that to keep an animal free of adult worms you really need to worm every 6 weeks maximum.

> The life-cycle of the worm (from ingested egg to maturity, shedding eggs) means that to keep an animal free of adult worms you really need to worm every 6 weeks maximum.

Though to be fair adult dogs that are not in regular contact with pregnant bitches and young puppies have a low re-infection rate so four times a year is usually fine for the normal pet dog.

> The vet advised me to give her Panacur liquid wormer daily now.

I would go with his recommendation personally.  I worm from day 40 of gestation until 2 days post whelping.  No matter how often your bitch has been wormed in the past, it is the pregnancy hormones that are responsible for awakening those encysted worms.

Use Panacur 10% and worm pups according to the recommendaion on the box.  The only thing pups have to do then, is thrive!

Agree with Barabara though, unless you have puppies around constantly, every 3 months with Drontal is sufficient for our average household pet dogs.

>No matter how often your bitch has been wormed in the past, it is the pregnancy hormones that are responsible for awakening those encysted worms.

That's something not a lot of people realise, and needs to be stressed. :-)

>Agree with Barabara though, unless you have puppies around constantly, every 3 months with Drontal is sufficient for our average household pet dogs.

Unless your dog is a scavenger when out, or eats fresh rabbit or other wildlife, in which case he'll be reinfecting himself continually, especially with tapeworm. To my knowledge there is no product that prevents worms, only deals with them (or their larvae) when the animal actually has them.

Re CHV jab - yes go ahead and have it.  Ideally she should have had another around time of mating for extra protection, but I'm sure one will be better than nothing at all.