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- By gembo [gb] Date 16.10.09 16:46 UTC
Anyone else read the article in today's Daily Mail about Stephen Gately? Pretty shocking really, don't know how that paper gets away with the stuff it writes.  Plenty of angry people tweeting about it too, Stephen Fry amongest them!
- By arched [gb] Date 16.10.09 17:15 UTC
I read it online earlier.
I can see why people are upset but if I'm honest I am amongst those who think that maybe we haven't been told the whole story of how he died or the events leading to his death. I still don't get why the announcement from his family said it was a 'tragic accident'. That to me says that something else went on. It has now (if reports are to be believed) been said that he had been smoking cannabis on the evening of his death, which makes me wonder what else had been going on. Perhaps we'll never know.
I don't think the article is anti-gay at all as some of the complaints have said, she seems to be pointing out that the lifestyle of some people aren't always what they seem.
And if it's true that he died alone, on a sofa, while his partner and another man shared a room, then it's all very upsetting for everybody involved.
I wasn't a fan of him or his music, but I do think it's very sad that another young talented man has died.
- By Polly [gb] Date 16.10.09 18:29 UTC
I read somewhere that his mother thought it was heart problem which is inherited in his family. If that is so then I can believe it as there are a number of heart conditions which affect people and they can be young and fit and show no signs then they just suddenly die.

I daresay the truth will come out somewhere along the line. I don't read the Daily MAil so have not seen the article.
- By georgepig [gb] Date 16.10.09 19:25 UTC
If I were a family member I'd be concerned of the reports of a 'natural death' in that most healthy 33 year olds do not get and die of pulmonary oedema. I'd want it investigating further. 
- By LJS Date 16.10.09 20:18 UTC
To be honest who cares two hoots. He died, he is being buried, if there is a story to the 'real reason' then it will come out .

He is one of many celebs that I really do not care about. They have put themselves in this position and earn millions so I don't feel sorry for them .
- By cooperscrossing [gb] Date 16.10.09 20:19 UTC
I understood that "death by natural causes" (rather than natural death, there's a pretty big difference) are a finding not the conclusion of the coroners investigation, which is ongoing. 
- By Lea Date 17.10.09 01:15 UTC
He died of natural causes. Who has the right to know the full extent of why he died????
Not us!!!!! He died of natural causes end of. I wouldnt want my cause of death plastered all over the papers. So why should anyone else.
The Mail was totally out of order in that report and I would not buy the paper again IF I subscribed to it, which I dont.
Its understandable that the Mail is sticking by their reporter, but I really do think they are shooting themselves in the foot and the article should never have been puiblished.
There is NO story in NATURAL deaths, so people are making them up!!!!!
RIP steven Gately xx
Lea.
- By St.Domingo Date 17.10.09 09:38 UTC Edited 17.10.09 09:42 UTC

> I wouldnt want my cause of death plastered all over the papers. So why should anyone else.
>


All celebrities want publicity when it suits them , to make money selling records etc.
They put themselves in the public eye so can't expect privacy when it suits them . I will be interested to see if he has a Catholic funeral as i believe homosexuality is a sin in the Catholic church ?

I agree with the article in the Mail , but any death is tragic so young .   The family are left to pick up the pieces .
Every death from drugs or alcohol is such a waste when there are people dying from cancer etc.   Life is a precious gift which shouldn't be wasted .

RIP Steven .
- By satincollie (Moderator) Date 17.10.09 10:45 UTC
The celebrity may put himself in the public eye but it is not the celebrity that will be affected by this article is it? It is his family and articles such as this so soon  after his death , on the day of his funeral at that, show no compassion or thought for their feelings and grief. Gutter reporting IMHO.
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 17.10.09 10:51 UTC
Although I don't agree with some of the wording I must admit I don't find his death to be of "natural causes" and can understand some of the comments.  Unfortunately there have been some 30 odd year olds who have seemed fit and well one day and are dead the next, it does happen, a rarity but nothing in life is certain.

I know I felt as though there was more to it at the start, but my job is not to publish my thoughts. 
- By gembo [gb] Date 17.10.09 10:57 UTC

> Gutter reporting IMHO


Couldn't agree with you more & with over 1000 comments to the press commission it seems lots of people agree.  I can't stand the Daily Mail & only read the article after seeing lots of celebs comment on it on Twitter, it's certainly caused a stir. Silly reporter, wonder if she'll think twice before writing such rubbish, probably not :(
- By St.Domingo Date 17.10.09 13:30 UTC

> The celebrity may put himself in the public eye but it is not the celebrity that will be affected by this article is it


Maybe they should think about that before they do it then .
- By LJS Date 17.10.09 13:49 UTC
Maybe they should think about that before they do it then .

Yes I agree they put themselves in this position and so should expect the fallout from the press. They should not expect privacy in many areas of their lives and death is one of those areas. Look at the media circus around Jade's death it was crass and beyond decency. Look at what her 'lovely' husband is doing now banged up in prison again now for alleged rape , nice sort of person hey !Alot of people were defended him not so long ago !
- By georgepig [gb] Date 17.10.09 17:35 UTC
What I meant was, he died of something natural but there must have been something underlying for him to die from it if you see what I mean e.g. already some sort of heart problem, and that would be what I wanted to know if it happened to a member of my family.  I didn't mean I thought there was something suspicious afoot.
- By cooperscrossing [gb] Date 17.10.09 17:41 UTC Edited 17.10.09 17:52 UTC
Not sure whether there was an error but it appears from my inbox that you duplicated your reply to mine 12 times Lea!  If it's not an error than obviously something that I posted annoyed you hugely, I'm at a loss to understand what?

Having had a member of my own families death widely reported, I understand only too well that it's of no comfort to those who knew and loved him. I imagine it's made even worse when people take a "finding" from the coroner's inquest (which is always in the public domian) and treat it as a "conclusion".
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 17.10.09 17:44 UTC
Everybody has to die - not everyone is going to live to a ripe old age, not everyone who dies young dies from a specific complaint - sometimes it just happens :(

It may be a tragedy for his family, it will be sad for his friends - but not everyone makes old bones - the young beautiful and famous are just as susceptible to sudden unexplained death as the young 12 year old who collapsed and died during a gym lesson locally a couple of weeks ago.

As has been said before, today's news in today's newspaper wraps up tomorrow's rubbish!
- By Lea Date 17.10.09 17:58 UTC
Cooperscrossing, My computer had a hissy fit and sent the same message I put 12 times!!!! I had fun deleting them all last night!!!!!!
So sorry, it wasnt anything you said, you just happened to be the one I clicked reply to, and my computer decided I REALLY needed everyone to see it!!!! PML
Lea :)
- By satincollie (Moderator) Date 17.10.09 18:18 UTC

> Maybe they should think about that before they do it then .


So basically your saying everyone should think about any step they take in life because journalists can write what they want with no thought for anyone or anything and there should be no right to complain as they took that step in the first place.
- By cooperscrossing [gb] Date 17.10.09 18:28 UTC
Ahhh!  I couldn't for the life of me imagine what on earth I'd written which could generate such a response!
- By Lea Date 17.10.09 19:02 UTC
Thats okay cooperscrossing, I honestly havnt anything against you xx
I do now hope that he will rest in peace.
33 years, he is one year older than me. And if he had done any misadventures befor he died, they would have been plastered all over the red tops by now!!!!!
I do belive, and no, a healthy man doesnt just drown in his own lungs, I believe that he was poorly before hand, but brushed it off as nothing, like most of the rest of us would!!!!!!
A tragic victim of an unfortunate illness that he brushed off as nothing other than the cold, swine flu etc.
RIP steven Gately
What ever anyone else says, IF there was more to your death, then more would be published about causes than just an illness.
Leave the guy alone to RIP now.
Lea.
- By ali-t [gb] Date 17.10.09 19:30 UTC

> Leave the guy alone to RIP now.


hear hear Lea.
- By St.Domingo Date 17.10.09 20:05 UTC

> So basically your saying everyone should think about any step they take in life


No , we are talking about celebrities who court publicity when it suits them  but complain when 'other stuff' becomes public .

I was never interested in him or his group , and i truly hope he is at peace . 
- By satincollie (Moderator) Date 17.10.09 22:39 UTC
As I pointed out previously I'm sure it matters not to him at all, but it hurts his family.
They are not celebritites so either they dont count because he was or everyone needs to think about what they do in case they become famous and then it effects there none famous family who haven't courted publicity.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 18.10.09 07:18 UTC

>everyone needs to think about what they do in case they become famous and then it effects there none famous family who haven't courted publicity.


That's pretty much the way of the tabloid journalists' world. Any connection with 'celebrity' makes you fair game for their gutter filth.
- By St.Domingo Date 18.10.09 07:19 UTC

> As I pointed out previously I'm sure it matters not to him at all, but it hurts his family.


And if you read one of my earlier posts you will see i wrote  ' and the family are left to pick up the pieces '.

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