Hi!me again im afraid!ive had loads of excellent advice off you all,and  i  wondered if you have any ideas on how I can stop this little prob concerning my 7mths pup and my old lady(14yrs)?first let me say,I WASgoing to wait till flyss had passed on before getting a new pup,as she s never taken kindly to other dogs in the house,and i didnt want to spend her last months getting on to her.However,i had a surprise birthday prezzy!flyss hasnt been too bad with her,all things considered.However,the pup  constantly "greets"or"grovels" to flyss(lickiing or sniffing at her lower jaw)(and wagging)which flyss hates,she sticks her head up and barks loudly,until i intervene,or the pup desists(rare)Some times the pup has her nose in flysses mouth!the barking is irritating to say the least,and i live in a terrace,so have to consider the neighbours.,to say nothing of poor old flyss wanting peace!Id be very grateful if anyone could help me solve this!when i say constantly,Imean,she starts at 4 30 am .then i shut her in so i can get another hours sleep(thats actually just one or two barks,because by the second,ive skidded downstairs) then when i get up properly ,she cant resist going to greet her two or three more times,then intemittantly through the day,sometimes even on the way back from a walk!

Mine was 4 when the pup came.  He's great with dogs in general but likes his own space and prefers not to be interfered with!

I used baby gates to allow him somewhere to escape to, I wouldn't allow the pup to go on his bed and, when the pup was being persistant, I'd tell the pup to stop or separate them.  Obviously they can sort this out on their own but I always felt my chap was too polite to do so :)

Although mine sleep in the same room I've used crates to give each their own safe space.  I didn't want them to wake each other up or start to play unsupervised, or have a grumble if it came to that.  Perhaps these are things you could try?

i think there's a fine line to having two dogs together that need to get on but not be in each others faces. i have three dogs but my second dog didn't really like the latest one so i had to teach my new girl not to jump on or pester her. i always made sure my older bitch could get away if she wanted to and have her own space, i also found  found putting the youngest on a lead  in the house helped as i would be able to stop her annoying the other dog but still let them be in the same room. distraction was the best as well, calling the youngster away and getting her to sit calmly for treats so re-enforcing what i wanted from her.
the other thing that helps is to use up any excess energy so both dogs are calm and spend a lot of time relaxing rather than wanting to constantly play when the older dog just wants to sleep.
with a new pup i know you can't do lots of walks but you can play and do a little training which uses their brain tiring them out.

i also was going to say it's good for your puppy to greet the older dog as thats all part of what dogs do but until your dog gets used to the pup you just need to keep on top of things.
over a period of time my youngest dog now knows to be gentle with the other one and how far she can go when excited. my older dog has become used to the situation and they pretty much get on really well, the only thing i i've kept the same is they sleep seperated by a dog gate as i don't want them in a confined space together but i think thats more me being careful than them not getting on.
it will take time for your new arrival to be accepted as not all dogs like puppies but just take things slowly and once the pup is a bit older and you can get to training classes and do more exercise this will help a lot and the dogs will get one to one time with you.
i find the 'leave it' command has been really good at telling the younger dog to leave the others alone and by making myself funto play with that helps a lot.

I had a 13yr old dog when I got my puppy (who is now 2 years old and sadly we've lost the oldie). Oldie was given all the space he wanted, using baby gates to keep pup away from him when he wanted peace.
Pup used to play rough with oldie, I felt so guilty that oldie didn't need to be dealing with all that puppy behavior that I made the dreadfull mistake of interfereing and stopping the pup. All that did was ensure the pup never learnt proper 'doggy' manners with oldie. So, I bit he bullet, after hearing the same advice over & over again - -don't intervene. Amazing - oldie learnt the best method to stop pup being OTT, so I only ever had to step in if things were getting really crazy.
Oldie tried the 'ignore' (turning head to one side & averting eye contact), but that wasn't understood by the pup untill oldie was permitted to follow it through (without my intervention), he would follow through with a bark (he learnt the specific tone of bark that would stop the pup immidiately, just the one bark was enough), as pup knew if the bark was ignored then there would be a snap (frightening to watch, but all show). Once left to it, and pup learnt what oldie meant a simple 'ignore' from oldie was then enough to tell pup to back off & leave him alone.

To sum up all of my waffle, I would leave them to it so your oldie can find a way to teach the pup that she doesn't want to be pestered, but at the same time, ensure your oldie has her own space and step in if oldie is really getting stressed.
Dogs teach puppies so much better than we do when it comes to dog:dog behaviour as they both have the same language :)

thankyou every one!trouble is,ive had the pup nearly 5  months and nothings changed!flyss actually snapped at her in the first week,making her squeal,didnt put her off!Used to make me laugh,id see he pup creep round the back of a sleeping flyss,and curl up and go to sleep herself!I suppose,when youve just left your mum,even the comfort of a grumpy old bat is better than nothing!flyss can still manage to escape upstairs when things arent to her liking down here,it just takes her longer!Sometimes she l start barking when jess is on the other side of the room,no doubt"dont bother,upstart!"I wish flyss would learn that one bark!

Takes a while for things to 'sink in' with some of them. Pups are so thick skinned. Zak was 7 months old when I gave him a home. I lost count of the times that I had to prize the cats claws out of his bottom lip. He learned eventually. As long as your girl has her own space I am sure things will settle down.

thanks!with mine,it was the cats clawout of her forhead!Twice!

Your pups actions are sumissive appeasing behaviours (try findign any wolf or wild canine video clips of pups greeting with adults) a way of trying to make freinds. The older ones reactions are also normal for a dominant elder not wanting to lower herself to the pups level.

Just part them when it gets OTT.

It will reduce, and assume more grown up versions (the mouth licking is food begging) as the pup grown up.

thanks!Isure hope so!