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Topic Dog Boards / General / What breeding complications do you look for in pugs?
- By dlresponse [gb] Date 04.10.09 22:44 UTC
I read somewhere that you need to be clued up about complications during late gestation and birth in order to be able to get the vet involved without unnecessarily wasting their time (and your money)

Also, how many times do responsible breeders find it acceptable for a female pug to breed before it becomes cruel?

Last question.

How long after the first litter (aged 18 months) will it be before she is comfortable breeding again?

Thanks
- By sam Date 05.10.09 08:40 UTC
suggest you read you "rocket science" post :)
- By gwen [gb] Date 05.10.09 09:10 UTC
Just read your "not rocket science" post, and then this one.  Without getting into the sort of discussion which your other post will possibly provoke, I think you need other quesitons before these ones.  Way before looking for breeding complications etc. you need to ask questions about the how to interprate the breed standard, get opinions form knowledgeable people about how you bitch fits and does not fit to the required form, hwo to find a stud dog who will compliment her (supposing she is good enough to breed from).  Your first port of enquiry should be her breeder, who should be in the best position to give you relevant family breeding history, how the family "throws" when mated to certain lines/types of dog, etc.

With your whelping related  questions, the answere ot these are mostly based on experience and knowing your bitches, you interpret signs, and it is very hard to actually pass this info. on verbally or in writing, it comes with  time.  OF course, every breeder has to have a learning curve, and this is where your bredeer/mentor comes into it.  Someone who will literally sit with you thorugh the whelping and give you the benefit of their expertise to teach you and help your bitch.  Pugs are notoriously not easy to whelp, can give conflicting signals, and are mostly unwilling to have anything to do with the new born, so you need to learn to clean off and get pups going, too.  When breeding all dogs, and especially one like pugs, saving time and money on vets is not on the list of priorities, the bitche's (and pup's) welfare must ocme first, so any sign of distress needs a vets visit.

Just wondered, you have not mentioned showing your pug, is she a family pet?  Why do you want to breed from her?
- By tooolz Date 05.10.09 09:18 UTC

> Why do you want to breed from her?


I thought that was pretty well spelled out in the other post..."animals to sell".
- By Carrington Date 05.10.09 10:05 UTC
I read somewhere that you need to be clued up about complications during late gestation and birth in order to be able to get the vet involved without unnecessarily wasting their time (and your money)


As said on the other post, you can read all you want and ask questions on a board but it just doesn't prepare you for the real thing, paricularly with such a breed as the Pug, who are notorious for having difficulties from whelping to motherhood, absolutely not a breed I would jump into as a novice.

If you are serious about knowing and breeding Pugs, you need to get your hands dirty, I studied and learnt for 4 years before I even attempted to breed,  that included making friends with other people in my breed, learning from them, about matching lines together, witnessing matings and being there to watch bitches whelping, going over with experienced breeders all the difficulties and solutions, learning how to palpitate, feed and care for the pups and recognise problems. 

As already said, your dogs breeder is the first port of call to learn from, then through her/him you can be introduced to others, or simply contact your breed club and ask to find a mentor to help you.

Don't go in blind - you have a bitches life and the life of any pups in your hands.
- By LucyMissy [gb] Date 05.10.09 10:25 UTC
Also, how many times do responsible breeders find it acceptable for a female pug to breed before it becomes cruel?

How long after the first litter (aged 18 months) will it be before she is comfortable breeding again?


The fact that these are your 2 main questions makes me think that you do not have your dogs best interests at heart.
- By Merlot [gb] Date 05.10.09 11:34 UTC
May I just be so bold as to ask your reasons for breeding at all? The very nature of your questions seem to piont at you wishing to breed your bitch as much as you can. Maybe I am wrong but the fact that you think some breeders are "Snooty" may be because you have gone about things the wrong way. We are all very approachable but do get a little het up when questioned on breeding for breedings sake. No doubt if you rang a craftsman and quizzed him about how to do his job so you could jump in untrained and take it on and insulted him by assuming it was easy you would probably get a similar responce as you are on this site.
In answer to your question 3 litters would be considered more than enough for most bitches in a lifetime and  at least one full year between litters. But then you of course can do as you wish. It is not for us "Snooty" breeders to tell you your job!
Aileen
- By Goldmali Date 05.10.09 12:01 UTC
Also, how many times do responsible breeders find it acceptable for a female pug to breed before it becomes cruel?

It's not rocket science to realise that this is a question without one single answer. Bit like "how long is a piece of string?"
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