To be honest, I think if any dog or animal tried to attack and kill any of my animals in my home - from guineapigs upwards - I'd do anything to stop it, even if it did mean whopping it with an iron.

Me too. I had one of my own dogs attack and nearly kill one of my cats. I managed to get the cat off him but I know full well that it was only because it was MY dog that I managed to be reasonably restrained -I loved the dog and the cat BOTH. Had it been a dog I didn't even know, it would have been very different and I wouldn't have had that mental restrain.

Get proactive if the police really won't help (although this story and the original poster sounds suspicious to me).

Catch the dogs with a slip lead the next time you see them and get the dog warden to collect them. The dog warden will soon start charging the owners = result the owners start being responsible or they give up the dogs and hopefully they'll get rehomed.

I think that the most important thing to remember is that it is not up to us or any of the general public to have to protect their dogs/cats/mammals or themselves, it is upto dog owners to restrain their dogs from running wild and acting on instinct, if they don't then they are quite rightly liable for any deaths or property damage occured, something the police here are missing, the dogs are not to blame but the owners are.

When I had a convertable car with a soft top roof one of my cats used to love to sit on it and would scratch it to death, but if my cat had done that to a neighbours car I would quite rightly expect to be liable for the repair, we all have to take responsibility for our animals and what they do, the same as when one of my cats when I had neighbours used to go in their home and pinch their fish from their open bowl. Now if that were outside, I could argue that a mesh needs to be on the pond, cats will be cats :-D But inside someones house I am liable for those fish being killed, I paid for the fish some of which were left on my bathroom floor by my cat so I know he did it, in the end I went and bought them a tank with a lid on it, what else could I do? You can't expect neighbours to close their doors and windows incase a cat or dog comes in and kills their pet or causes damage, so if your animal does so it is to the consequence of the owner, quite rightly.

Just as it is in this case, infact I am shocked that the owners have not shown utter remorse and offered some sort of compensation, I would be so upset, but I guess there are many people out there today with no morals or no conscience at all.

went round the friends house today, she was bitten by the dogs as a seperate thing, it happend after teh cat was died.

teh police actually closed the case the same night with out talking to my friend or getting a statement, the case was only reopened when the press came in, and they couldnt beleive it was closed. she called the police twice and teh ended up sending some nobody round just to shut her up bassically and she was told that her injeries were not worth worring about!

she has now done a piece on broadland radio, but not about the cat being killed but the fact that she was bitten and the lack of police support, and how bad the police were.

the dogs have been tacken from the man until further notice.

my poor friend is worried about her dogs, she hopes that the man doesnt come and do somthing to her two Labs that ran off when the dogs came in to her house, one has such bad hipdisplacia (dont know if thats spelt correctly) that he has no hip joints at all and the vets that have seen teh x-rays have said that are the worst they have ever seen, so she was so worried that if he would have got bitten he would have gone straight down.

it looks asif its now being handled and our MP richard bacon will be raisning it up in parliment to see if a cat can now be seen as a loved one rather than vermin which is what the law says they are.

it snice to see some people on here that see the case how i see it.  rather than just an anti-dog comment. 

thank you some sence!

> although this story and the original poster sounds suspicious to me

what do you mean?

the dogs are in the dog warden kennels, and the dog were locked in someones garden to be picked up.

im the third person to here some of the news so if it sound abit funny, then its the chinese whispers effect.

i just read my friend some of your support,
she is so happy to know there is some out there.

i dont know who it was but someone put, "as long as the cat was alive" or something along those lines.

the cat was till alive once the dogs had left, with his head smashed eyes hanging out and jaw broken, the cat died in her arms.

the news pappers wanted some pictures of the cats body, but no one could do it, i wish i new because i would have done it, you no for evidence.

> the dogs are in the dog warden kennels

So the dogs have now been collected by a dog warden?  

yes yesterday.

after everyone saying my friend shouldnt have gone to the press, it was the press that have got this case re-opened.
and norfolk just bourght the "best" head police guy in the country.

just saw your response, i cant beleive, it that the police said they couldnt do anything!!!
th elaw must be hazzy.

> just saw your response, i cant beleive, it that the police said they couldnt do anything!!!
>

My response?  Or someone else's?  Sorry I'm confused!

So at least now the owner of the dogs who have allegedly killed cats and bitten a person in their own home (is that correct?) might have to answer to someone if his/her dogs are now in the care of the local council? 

oh sorry i dont know what happened, it was someone else i think? i dont know.

yes the cat is dead, i think there is abit of dout, about what im saying?

Well, no, it just looked like you were responding to yourself is all :-)

But you acccept my point, that hopefully with the dogs in council care, the owner of these dogs is aware of that fact and will now have to respond in some way?
Assuming they were collected by the dog warden as strays, which is South Norfolks policy.

south norfolk how did you know?
but yes, he knows im unsureif there where taken off him or he was there when it happend but i now his daughter was really upset.
she walks the dogs with out a muzzle and the bitch barks at my friends dogs through the gate.
she thinks thts these two dogs where going after my friends dog, but saw the cat.

> our MP richard bacon

South Norfolk MP. 

Any more updates to this story?

well he got the dogs back he payed £100+, but then got them taken away again because three more people came forwad after it went into the papper.
the village dog show is tomorrow, so im sure it will be a talking point, my friend is worried about going out, but she isnt in the wrong so we told her to just go out.

http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=ENOnline&category=News&tBrand=ENOnline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED06%20Aug%202009%2016%3A27%3A18%3A860

this is what was in teh paper, it isnt very good and doesnt go in to enough detail, but i think they dont wont her to seem like the baddy in the story. and some of it isnt right.

>it isnt very good and doesnt go in to enough detail, but i think they dont wont her to seem like the baddy in the story. and some of it isnt right

Yep, that's sounds normal for the tabloid press. Truth is a minor detail - they're not interested in facts - they want to sell newspapers.

My cat was killed by a staff last year:( well he wasn't actually killed by the dog, he had to be put to sleep because of the injuries inflicted by the staff. My husband did all he could to get the staff off our cat but it had lock jaw and we just couldn't get it to release itch. It was the most awful thing i have witnessed and i so feel for anyone else who has to go through it! :(

> but it had lock jaw

How awful :(  Poor cat.
Staffords don't get lock jaw.  Lock jaw is another name for tetanus.  They just don't like to let go sometimes.

new update!!!!

the guy got his dogs back, he payed £100+ for teh dogs. with in the last few days teh dogs have been reported at large, running around. and there was a dog attack in the last week with teh dogs.
the police are now taking this man to court, my friend is going in as a witness, and possibly my grand father along with others.

my friend got a phone call from the houses of paliment, and they are going to reveiw teh dangerous dog act, because it only involves dangerous dogs in public places not privet.
so if someone is attacked in there own home/garden the law can step in and cats will get the same recognition as livestock in the law. that doesnt mean a dog can be shot on sight if chasing a cat.

What on earth are you on about? Firstly The Houses of Parliament do not phone people up about civil matters like this, secondly they are NOT going to review the dangerous dogs act at all so i dont know where you got that idea from? They already overruled a review months ago and are satisfied that the Dangerous Dogs act already provides enough legislation and does not need to be changed.

I sincerely hope people don't read the sort of garbled things you are saying and believe it. *roll eyes here*

> the guy got his dogs back, he paid £100+ for the dogs. with in the last few days the dogs have been reported at large, running around. and there was a dog attack in the last week with the dogs.
> the police are now taking this man to court, my friend is going in as a witness, and possibly my grand father along with others.
>
> my friend got a phone call from the Houses of Parliament, and they are going to review the dangerous dog act, because it only involves dangerous dogs in public places not private.
> so if someone is attacked in there own home/garden the law can step in and cats will get the same recognition as livestock in the law. that doesn't mean a dog can be shot on sight if chasing a cat.

Er Really ? For a start if the police are taking action the dogs will be retained until after the court case they would not be handed over for any amount of money.

Secondly the HoP are not sitting at the moment as they are in recess ! The phone call would not be from the HoP anyway, it would come from DEFRA this is the government dept that is responsible for the DDA

Thirdly the DDA is very unlikely to be reviewed again before the next election as there simply will not be time to do so.

Fourthly the DDA isn't the law that covers cats/livestock being attacked by dogs it is possibly covered in the Animal Welfare Act 2006 & earlier legislation regarding the legal status of cats.

i only know what i have been told. my friend said she was called by the HoP.

and did they have the info about this when they reviewed teh DDA? i think not. all they are going to change is that it aplies to privet grounds, as the law stands, a dog could come in to your house and kill your cat bite your hand and leg, cause bleeding and nothing happen to the dog/s. and the woman that she spoke to said that she has cats and she is apauled with teh law, she cant beleive what has happend.
and anyway, this may take 2-5 years to change but just you wait until your attacked in your own home by a dog and nothing can be done!

today.
the man was seen letting his dogs out at 02:00. and by 15:00 the dogs had wripped a cats head off in someones garden. i was at my friends at the time. they called the police and ran to see my friend.

it is going to court, but his dogs havent been taken from him??? the court must be doing it on a different asspect of the case. but it is open to teh public so we are getting as many people influence by these dogs to go.

> the man was seen letting his dogs out at 02:00. and by 15:00 the dogs had wripped a cats head off in someones garden.

Are you serious? The dogs were loose for 13 hours and no one thought to call the dog warden or catch them until the dog warden could arrive? I'd certainly have got my cats and dogs safely inside if I knew they were loose.

Actually I can't believe this happened about 5 hours ago and you've only just posted about it.

> i only know what i have been told. my friend said she was called by the HoP.
>
> and did they have the info about this when they reviewed the DDA? i think not. all they are going to change is that it aplies to privet grounds, as the law stands, a dog could come in to your house and kill your cat bite your hand and leg, cause bleeding and nothing happen to the dog/s. and the woman that she spoke to said that she has cats and she is appalled with the law, she cant believe what has happened.
> and anyway, this may take 2-5 years to change but just you wait until your attacked in your own home by a dog and nothing can be done!

How did the dogs get into her house ??? I know that no straying dogs could get into my house so the scenario would never happen. Can straying dogs access your home ? We have several owners who allow their dogs to stray in this village & they have come down my driveway, but to get into my house they would have to open two front doors or jump a 6+ foot wall, I'm sure my dogs would alert me long before the dog managed to do these things.

The HoP do not ring anyone, the HoP is a building in which Parliament is held & where MPs & the Lords make laws, debate & have offices. Any information comes directly from the Government Departments.What may have happened is than an MP/MP secretary/aide has rung & mentioned early day motions or responses they have received from the Government Department concerned.

However as changes to law were only discussed early this year & no changes made, this Government has no plans to make any chnages in the near future.

Think very carefully, if the DDA applies everywhere, then if someone breaks into your house & attacks you or your family or your dogs etc & your dog(s)bite them, the police would have no option, but to prosecute you under the DDA & have your dog PTS !!

That is the DDA which does not apply to the protection of cats, that comes under the 2006 Animal Welfare Act.

> today.
> the man was seen letting his dogs out at 02:00. and by 15:00 the dogs had wripped a cats head off in someone's garden. I was at my friends at the time. they called the police and ran to see my friend

So why don't they do something about it by informing the Dog Warden or Police when the dogs are let out ???????not waiting until something happens, it is against the Law for dogs to be allowed to roam !

where she lives she is only allowd a 3 foot fence around her garden(?) her neighbour leaves her back garden gate open as she uses it as a drive. the dogs came in and jumped teh fence.

> where she lives she is only allowed a 3 foot fence around her garden(?) her neighbour leaves her back garden gate open as she uses it as a drive. the dogs came in and jumped the fence.

Only allowed a 3 foot fence ? I could understand this if it was a front garden but rear gardens ????? She intervened & got bitten & in law the dogs did not go to her & attack her, she went to them. I can't remember the actually legal wording for such incidents, but the onus is on the person who approached the dogs. That still doesn't explain how the dogs got into the house

and the reason i am putting this on here is teh way teh ho.le case is handling it. our dog warden often gets called out and doesnt feel it can do anything, also teh papers got involved in teh case because of the way teh police were handling it.

you are just asking teh same Qs i did, and we all are.

it was a sunny day and she had her back door open. teh dogs saw the cat and went after it, teh cat ran to safty which was home. the cat was nearly 20 almost blind.

> the court must be doing it on a different asspect of the case.

Such as?

This thread gets more and more confusing by the hour! lol

The HoP calling people direct?  I think your friend is embellishing a wee tad stamboom.

Oh i don't think it's just the friend who is full of it Tracy. The whole thread is inaccurate, ill informed and fillied with false statements. It also has a funny smell of BS about it if we are supposed to believe that the DDA which the House of Lords have rejected a review of only a few months ago is now undergoing a special review just for the OP's friend.

Did i tell you the Houses of Parliament phoned my bum up the other day? lol

> the guy got his dogs back, he payed £100+ for teh dogs. with in the last few days teh dogs have been reported at large, running around. and there was a dog attack in the last week with teh dogs.
> the police are now taking this man to court, my friend is going in as a witness, and possibly my grand father along with others.

If the dogs were seized by the police the owner doesn't pay to get them back, they have to wait until the court makes a decision based on evidence. The police don't take anyone to court, they gather evidence and give it to the prosectution service who then decide whther they will prosecute or not. They and the defendants solicitor are the ones who decide who the witnesses will be. You can't go along to court to be a winess if you haven't been formal asked by letter.

> and they are going to reveiw the dangerous dog act, because it only involves dangerous dogs in public places not privet.

Hasn't there been quite a few cases in the last couple of years of dogs causing serious damage (and death) to children in relations houses/gardens (ie private places) and the owners were still prosecuted?

If I lived in a village where 'dangerous dogs' were loose and wandering around I would be on the phone to the police/dog warden etc as soon as I saw them not after they had attacked. Isn't prevention better than cure?

>The whole thread is inaccurate, ill informed and fillied with false statements.

I keep getting this image in my mind.

> Did i tell you the Houses of Parliament phoned my bum up the other day? lol

snigger... sorry but that did tickle me rather.  :-)

I am kind of glad someone else said that, because if I were relaying a story such as this, I'd want to make sure I had every single shred of fact to hand and that I was being accurate.  It all sounds a bit funny to me.

because the dogs killed a cat, it couldnt go to coart. 

im going to stop posting. because you lot dont know what you are talking about.
you only seem to be half reading what im writing.

> because the dogs killed a cat, it couldnt go to coart. 

But you said it was going to court?

I really cannot understand why when you live in a small village (unless your idea and my idea of a small village are totally different) why these dogs are roaming the streets and no one is reporting this until a cat is injured! Surely to goodness it is common sense to report this and try to prevent something from happening again.

> why these dogs are roaming the streets and no one is reporting this until a cat is injured!

Exactly!  If the dogs have allegedly been taken by the dog warden previously, why aren't people phoning the dog warden again and again if the same incidents are happening?
http://www.norwich.gov.uk/webapps/atoz/service_page.asp?id=1071#Dangerous

Actually, edited to add, if the people involved have been dealing with the above council, it seems that if the public feel a dog is dangerous, they should be contacting the police.

This is what i have found from the internet on this case

http://www.animalfriends.org.uk/cat_news/norfolk_residents_fear_mystery_catnapper_is_on_the_loose_19255739.html

and

http://www.nationalpetregister.org/forums/Snatch-Fear-Over-Missing-Cats-t-1242.html

and dated today's date:
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/112655

Been trying to find out about a dangerous dog in this village, but it appears they feel from what i am reading that its a cat napper not a dog doing this.??

im going to stop posting. because you lot dont know what you are talking about.
you only seem to be half reading what im writing.

Stamboom we are desperately trying to read what you are writing but your spelling is somewhat erratic, very difficult to follow and often with contradictions in it. If you took a little more time when you wrote a post and used spell check it might make it easier for us all to follow ;-)