Does anyone know if a dog gets 3rd in special junior at crufts whether it would qualify it for the following year? if it was just junior then it would be qualified but as its "special" does this make a difference ?

Well this year's schedule says any awards made special in any way does not count. However a FIRST in ANY class at Crufts (including any special, GC etc) will qualify. So sadly I don't think it would qualify -but it might be worth contacting the KC to ask to play safe.

The question was for a friend, its a shame really if it doesnt qualify because the only reason it is special puppy and special junior is due to ages.  I will contact the KC to clarify.  Thanks.

cheryl.lowe@thekennelclub.org.uk

I contacted Cheryl Lowe and had a response within 1 hour, as i wasn't 100% sure if winning the GC Class qualified for the next year.

I am pretty sure it does qualify

2.      THE FOLLOWING ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS A DOG MUST HAVE FOR ENTRY AT CRUFTS 2010.

a.       ENTRY IN BREED CLASSES AT CRUFTS 2010, WHERE CHALLENGE CERTIFICATES ARE OFFERED.

A dog is eligible for entry in breed classes where Challenge Certificates are offered if it has qualified in any of the following ways under the Rules and Regulations of the Kennel Club.

(4)                          If it has won any of the following prizes in a breed class (as defined in Kennel Club Regulations for the Definitions of Classes at Championship Shows) at a Championship Show, including Crufts, where Challenge Certificates were offered for the breed between 5 January 2009 and 8 January 2010.

i.                First, Second or Third in Minor Puppy Class
ii.                First, Second or Third in Puppy Class
iii.               First, Second or Third in Junior Class
iv.               First, Second or Third in Yearling Class (For Breeds in Stud Book Band E only - see list below)
v.               First, Second or Third in Post Graduate Class
vi.              First, Second or Third in Limit Class
vii.             First, Second or Third in Open Class
viii.            First, Second or Third in Veteran Class

STUD BOOK BAND E
Hound Group -  Whippet
Gundog Group - Irish Setter, Retriever (Flat Coated), Retriever (Golden), Retriever (Labrador), Spaniel (Cocker)
Terrier Group - Border Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier
Utility Group -
Pastoral Group - Bearded Collie, Border Collie, Shetland Sheepdog
Working Group - Boxer, Dobermann, Great Dane, Rottweiler
Toy Group - Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, Papillon

(5)            If it has won a first prize in any breed class at Crufts 2009.  (NB This is in addition to those dogs which have qualified in classes listed under 2 a (4) above)

NOTES ON QUALIFICATIONS

1.                  A Breed Class is a class confined to one breed.

2.                  Awards as above qualify a dog for entry at Crufts 2010 only if the class in which the award was gained was not made 'Special' in any way, i.e. by age, colour, height, weight, coat, to members of a society to breeders etc. An exception is made only in the case of Prize Winners in Special Puppy, Special Junior and Veteran at Crufts 2009. Wins in sweepstake classes do not qualify nor do wins in any classes other than those stated above

No one has actually read the whole of the qualification section for Crufts I think !

LOL no I managed to miss that entire bit!!

excellent thank you :)

Moonmaiden, to go off the subject slightly - when you and others write as much as you just have, is there a way of copying from somewhere, or do you have to type every word ?
I am speaking as a total computer illiterate and have always wondered.

>is there a way of copying from somewhere

'Copy and Paste' is a marvellous facility. :-)

I've heard of copy & paste but never used it. Is that how it's done ?

Yes, it's very simple, and saves masses of typing! :-) Here's how it's done.

As JG has written I cut & paste if it's on the net, if it's from my reference books I have a scanner & software that allows me to copy & paste from the image ! Anything for an easy life !!

>LOL no I managed to miss that entire bit!!

ROFLMAO tut tut tut :-D Marianne really !!

So a 2nd in a veteran class in a breed club champ show would qualify for crufts? Sorry have i read that wrong? I cant tell.

Yes, just as 1st to third qualifies for Crufts at any Champ show where there are CCs for CC breeds & breed classes for non CC breeds

Well in that case my girl qualified for crufts last time she went out. And i didn't know about it. Should they tell you or should you just know? How would i get that confirmed?

Hi C
When the entry forms come out for Crufts just remember you need to state on there the show/class/etc. she qualified at.  You can always find Crufts qualification requirements online with a simple search.
Can see you are keeping busy!

Sue 

I think it means only at crufts can you qualify from veteran

No it means that even though at Crufts it is Special Veteran it is still a qualifying class as well.

Some of their wording is a little jumbles imo,
just need some clarification on this.
A friend got 3rd in her breed in KCGC class for her breed where CC's were on offer at Crufts. Does this mean she has qualified for 2010?

No because KCGC isn't a Crufts qualifying class-apart from the winner(all class winners at Crufts qualify for the next Crufts)