Ok i was reading an aritical about how dalmatians have High Uric Acid (HUA), apperantly according to the artical all registered dalmatians have it, which causes many (not all) to develop bladder stones and sludge which can cause a blockage. It says that they think there is a link between the spotting gene and the HUA gene. In America some people bred a dalmation to a pointer and the pups had Lower Uric Acid (LUA) which means that they wont have the problems of HUA dogs, so they kept breeding them back to dalmations. the first was about 36 years ago and apperantly at first there spots were smaller and frosty looking but it says that now the problem is solved, it states that current generations are 99.98% dalmatian geneticaly.
They wanted the AKC to acept them and register them as dalmatians but when it went to a vote more people said no. It goes on to say that there is a breeder over here in the UK who wants to import some over and add them to her line, but as the AKC doesn't register them there pups would not be able to be registered over here. According the the artical the breeder has approached the KC about it and has been told that if they can get two championship judges to say that the ULA dalmations are a good of a dalmation they will allow the pups to be registered.

So i though i would ask on here to see what you guys think about it, as ive found it very intresting to read. do you agree or dissagree with doing it?

I think it sounds like a good idea to me as they say they are 99.98% dalmatian and from pictures ive seen they look like normal dalmatians to me, allthough im not familer with the breed standard so i could be wrong.

A ULA Dalmation
http://www.luadalmatians.com/Angie.html

The pictures of the ones I've seen are shorter-coupled and more angulated than one would expect for a long-distance trotting dog - evidence of the pointer input even after many generations. This slight alteration of bodyshape would make the stride shorter and choppier and less economical than practical for stamina, and so this is something that needs to bred out again, making the breed once more 'fit for purpose'.

KC will register puppy off any parents as long as they are registered themselves, no matter the health status/show results...

So to rate the looks of these LUA dalmatians as a measurement if they can be registered sounds a little funny to me.
The pics to me too look like nice dalmatians(nicer than most KC registered pet ones I have seen around here)but then I'm no expert either :)

Does the KC register the boxer crosses done for the bob tail?
If they do, I think they should allow this mix too as in the end it was not done for the looks but health of the breed.
If I remember right everythig is documented from the beginning so it is not like the background is not known.

>Does the KC register the boxer crosses done for the bob tail?

Yes. The difference is that Bruce Cattenach obtained KC permission before going ahead.

They were registered as cross breeds for three generations(with DNA evidence)& only after the 4th generation was born were they registered as Boxers

ah, I see...
These dalmatians are down quite a few generations now too aren't they so at least it seems KC is considerig registering.
If it comes down to opinion of 2 judges, I suppose their decision could be based on not the looks of these dogs but the background?
So personal opinions on what has been done could play a part or would they be told what they are looking at?
I wonder if they have asked the opinion of the breed club?

The cross-breeding has to be submitted to the KC before the breeding is done, so their is no chnace of the UK KC accepting these dogs for registration without the dogs being accepted by a registry that has a reciprocal agreement with the UK KC

but as they have applyed befor it they import them would that not count? or not at all?
well the breeder seems hopfull.

> but as they have applyed befor it they import them would that not count? or not at all?

I very much doubt it as the breed clubs/council will have some say & the dogs have to look like the breed they are meant to be & TBH I don't think they do. Now if a breeder in this country was to do the same from the outset & get the KC's/breed council's agreement, then with the same dedication that Bruce showed perhaps, but bringing the dogs in as a done deal unrecognized in their country of origin, I very much doubt it.

>as they have applyed befor it they import them would that not count? or not at all?

I doubt it. To put them on the same footing as the bobtail boxers, the breeder/s would have to discuss the proposal with the KC, then if they receive permission, to start all over again with a first cross.