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Topic Dog Boards / Showing / Show worthy
- By PoppySoper [gb] Date 30.06.09 11:36 UTC
Munch has quite a good Pedigree, and i think he conforms to Standard,
I would love to take him Ring craft anf have a shot at showing him, Obviously i dont mind if he doesnt get anywhere, I have'nt taught him how to Stand yet, But do you think he looks show worthy, Honest answers please :)
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oh and btw he is 15 Weeks old
- By WestCoast Date 30.06.09 11:46 UTC
Ask Gwen. :)  Did he come from a breeder who successfully shows?
- By suz1985 [gb] Date 30.06.09 13:10 UTC
I would ask the breeder, perhaps they can give you some advice. take him along to ringcraft anyway if you can, its great socialising for puppies and you can learn tips from more experienced people :)
- By PoppySoper [gb] Date 30.06.09 14:33 UTC
Hi Guys,

The breeder never showed the Parents, However as i said there are many Champions in his pedigree, Does it matter if his parents were not shown?
- By WestCoast Date 30.06.09 14:43 UTC
It doesn't matter but someone who has mated their own dog and bitch together without the knowledge and experience of showing would be very unlikely to produce a quality puppy but they could be lucky. 
The number of Champions is irrelevent.  The further back in the pedigree they are, the less influence their quality will have on the puppies. :(  If you want a show puppy then it's usually a good idea to buy from a successful exhibitor although of course there are never any guarantees when you are dealing with nature......
And it's very difficult to interprete breed standards if you haven't seen a quality specimen.  For instance "Body
Short and cobby, wide in chest and well ribbed. Ribs well sprung and carried well back." can mean different things to different people unless you can relate it to a good example of the breed and then look at your own dog. :)
Ringcraft is a good way of socialising a puppy but I wouldn't be inclined to spend any money on show entries without having him assessed by a breed expert. :)
- By ClaireyS Date 30.06.09 15:26 UTC
silly question but is he KC registered ?
- By Gemma86 [gb] Date 30.06.09 15:59 UTC
Awwww I'd have him, he looks like a little cuttie :) x
- By Tigger2 Date 30.06.09 16:13 UTC
You can show any dog that is KC registered. As Westcoast has said it's unlikely that someone who doesn't show would have the knowledge and experience to produce a top class puppy - but you never know. Either way it doesn't matter, you bring the best dog home with you and you have fun showing. No reason at all why you can't give it a go :-)
- By PoppySoper [gb] Date 30.06.09 16:38 UTC
Thanks for the info Guys,

Yes he is KC Registered, lol, i am not that silly hehe.

As i said i didnt buy him to show him, But i just think his gorgeous but i know that im probally just being Bias, How could i find a breed expert to just take a look?

Thanks
- By ANNM172 [gb] Date 30.06.09 17:16 UTC
I changed breed a few years ago and tried to buy a show pup without really fully knowing what I was looking at- Although I do know puppies change and there are no guarantees.
In the last two years I have had fun, learned to ringcraft (am still not great) won a few prizes and the kids can now do junior handling (a bit better than I can show)
After people have seen me persisting for a few years they have then given me good advice that my girl is not really suited to showing. Judges were happy to go over her at shows for me when they could see I genuinely wanted to improve.

I have attended the last few months shows without a dog just to watch and learn and have bought a nice puppy that I hope will do well when he comes out in August.

I love everything about showing but it's really hard when things don't work out as you hope.

My advice would be gp to ringcraft and some open shows and see what happens. You will learn loads and meet some fab people. Use it as a training time for you. This will mean if you later do get a show pup you will be in a better position to do him/her justice in the ring- and who knows you may have a wee star already. Good luck
- By tooolz Date 30.06.09 17:20 UTC
Have a bash at it, you've nothing to lose.
If the pup enjoys it you could try a variety of shows from companion dog shows - pay on the day -fun day out... up to Championship shows- enter weeks in advance -£25 ish per class and the competition is hot.

A successful breeder and exhibitor of pugs should be able to tell you if you have a promising puppy if they see it in the flesh.
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 30.06.09 17:22 UTC
Now don't want to worry you, but you are sure that it is KC papers and not one of the other registeries?  Just knew someone who thought that their dogs were KC registered and paid the same price and more for them, but they weren't.
- By gwen [gb] Date 30.06.09 17:38 UTC
Hi,

He is very cute, but it would be impossible to assess any show potential from "fun and relaxed" pics.  Why not find out a ringcraft class in your area, and take him along for a few sessions to teach im his show stance and get him moving properly.  With a bit of luck youmight find one with other pug attendees, who can give you advice,  if not, whereabout in the country are you, perhaps one of the other pug folk or I on here can either look at him for you, or fix up for you to meet a knowledgeable pug person to evaluate him.  Even if he is not going to be Championship show quality you can still have loads of fun with him at companion shows.
- By LindyLou [gb] Date 30.06.09 18:28 UTC
I don't know much about pugs so can't comment on that aspect, but my first show dog was 'just a pet' that I took along to shows. She didn't do too badly but I learnt so much from watching the good ones. I learnt how mine compared to the ones that were winning, and where my dog was lacking in quality. I now look at dogs differently. I can't walk past a dog in the street and just think 'What a nice Lab, Poodle, Spaniel......' I now look at it and think 'Ok, but lacking in this, and too much that...' In other words, showing can ruin the way you look at dogs for ever more ;-) Not that I'd change things. I love the shows, and showing :-D

As others have already stated, find a ringcraft and go and have some fun at local shows. If you enjoy it then go further afield. You'll soon find out just how much you are addicted to it.
- By PoppySoper [gb] Date 30.06.09 18:44 UTC
Thankyou Everyone,

Gwen i am in South East, Essex :)

& Yes he is KC Registered, i am absolutley sure, i have transfered ownership, he has a registration number, unique ownership code e.t.c

as said i didnt buy him to show so it will be for fun anyway :)
- By GG1 [gb] Date 30.06.09 18:56 UTC
Just have a go. You will love the social side of things as well as learning the craft. I have just started showing my dane and its the best feeling in the world when someone see's in your dog what you are seeing!!! lol.
Have fun, enjoy, and make it a fun time for your baby, you never know.....................
- By gwen [gb] Date 01.07.09 12:30 UTC
OK, that should not be too hard to find someone to  help you out, there are lots an dlots of pug folkin London/South East.  Will see if I can find someone willing to have a look at him and chat to you.  Meanwhile, find a ringcraft class, and some companion shows you can visit to see what goes on.l
- By LucyDogs [gb] Date 01.07.09 16:39 UTC
In a way it's better to start with a dog that's NOT top quality - my first dog should have been a Champion and probably would have if not handled by a total novice and unknown for most of his shows - not that we aren't proud of his single CC! But my girl who can win well at Open level but hardly ever gets a look in at Champ shows would have been a better first dog. If you have a thick skin and can enjoy the day whether or not you do well, give it a go!
- By saoirse [gb] Date 01.07.09 17:15 UTC
Have a go and show him it

I know you will both enjoy it

saoirse
- By ice_queen Date 01.07.09 17:40 UTC
Why not give afew open shows a bash and see how the both of you get on.  It's a great learning curve even if you just do ringcraft and open shows for the next year, you can always then plan your next pup to join you that you will buy as show quality from the start :)  Best of luck!
- By Romside [gb] Date 01.07.09 18:22 UTC

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hi ya there is a ring craft class held  on a monday night in romford london road pm me if youd like details.x
good luck with your new puppy hes really a cutie pie.x
Topic Dog Boards / Showing / Show worthy

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