Hello,

Quick question, do wins in PG at a Champ show where there are no CC's count towards the 5 wins needed to move out of that class?

Thanks!

Yes, it is a win out class whether CC's are on offer or not :-)

Thanks for the prompt reply :-)

Wins in PG at Champ Shows without tickets count as Open Show wins and therefore do not count.

I have a schedule in front of me which reads

PG: For dogs which have not won a CC or five or more first prizes at Ch shows in PG, ML, L and Open whether restricted or not.

Further to this it also states that where CC's are not on offer then any win shall be counted as open show wins

there are no restrictions on Post Grad for CC's on offer is there? 

Its not until you get to Mid Limit that the Win out classes are 'At shows where Challenge Certificates are offered for the Breed'

Post Grad is a simple win out class.. 5 wins at PG level and you move up

sorry.. just read it.. oops.. (where is the huuuge blushing smiley) :-P

Does anyone know what it means when it says "whether restricted or not".

Half the time the KC doesn't know!   But can't remeber which way our written answer went.  Will check tonight unless someone get's back to your first.

>"whether restricted or not".

That's usually if it's a class restricted by colour etc.