Have searched Ebay and found puppy pads/incontinent pads-£37 for 100 75x57 size includes postage-is this an OK price to pay?

Thanks

I find it cheaper to take pups out into the garden. :)

I quite agree with taking out in garden but before they can go out-say up to the age of five weeks-I like to put something on the puppy pen floor other than newspaper.

I think PAH do packs of 100 for just under £30 :)

Wilkinson's do american puppy pads 32 for £8-99p, so approx 96 for £26-97 ish.

I used these with my last litter and have to say I won't use them again.  The pups just shredded them and they make one hell of a mess, I was worried about them swallowing it, so I prefer to just clean up after each little (or large) accident.  I will put them down overnight though as they didn't seem to touch them then.  I found Wilkinson's cheapest but they weren't quite as good as the 'proper' ones.

There is a company in Oldham that do puppy pads its at waterside mill greenfield I will have a look later and give you their details you can collect or they can post them but I found themn the cheapest.

Linda

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/100-PUPPY-TRAINER-TRAINING-PADS-60-x-90-CM-X-LARGE_W0QQitemZ200346238770QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Pet_Supplies_Dogs?hash=item2ea590ff32&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1686%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

this is the link £22 for 100 x large pads and can tell you they are very good very thyick and very absorbant, mine only a small breed but they never could shred them even when they tugged at them

Linda

I'm absolutely amazed that people use them!  I don't know anyone who use the things .... maybe we'll have to rethink. :)

same here AnnieM ,the mess the pups would make with the pads :) ...i went stright back to papper ...i would never use them again !!

i only use at whelp now :)

I always use the puppy pads and find them great, once the puppies eyes are open and they are on their feet i put them in their pen area and they learn to use them straight away. once messy i just pick up and throw away and put a new one down i think their great. I also give these in my puppy pack to new owners as the puppies know exactly what there for by the time they leave.

They do have the odd game a tug a war but i wouldnt use anything else.

Must add i have a newspaper phobia...the smell makes me heave so i dont have them in the house so couldnt use paper if i wanted to, does work out expensive but i dont have a choice....weird i know :)

> I'm absolutely amazed that people use them!

I use them through the night for my pup. If the pup needs to go through the night she piddles on the pad, all I have to do is fold it over, pick it up and chuck it in the bin. The alternative would be newspaper - there would be wet footprints everywhere because it's not as absorbent, the paper would be soggy and horrible to pick up then I'd have to bleach the floor.

I  have used people incontinence pads from ebay they were much better than any of the shop puppy pads i bought.

It depends on the size of the whelping box, I have found that I am using 5 of the 60cmx90cm at a time and that is in the box that is too small for my bitch really ( I have just ordered a made to measure for her in the vain hope that it encourages her to get in a feed them more often! another £300 kissed goodbye!LOL)
I order them from an incontinence site, and I have to say they are brilliant.

Asda were dping a box of 100 Bob martin puppy pads 24 x 24 for £5.00 which is brill.
I find them very easy for overnight

I bought loads off ebay for quite a decent price compared to others.  Regular human inco pads were better than the puppy pads (the puppy pads have a scent to make them go, but I didn't actually want them to use them for going).  I used them instead of newspaper for the first few weeks.  I also put in litter trays and used the wood pellet litter so the pups learned really quickly to go in there.  Once they were old enough to start tearing up the inco pads I just didnt' put anything down and they were consistently using the litter trays when I wasn't taking them out.

Wendy

Hi

When mine were pups and they were in the crate  (short periods) I brought some human incontinent sheets alot thicker then the puppy ones

And cheaper

Not sure if you're planning on recommending them to new owners, but please don't.

I thought they were a great idea on my older boy a few years ago, it allowed him to go in doors and in turn he thought that he could and it took a whole lot longer to house train him to go outside only.. He was 7 months when fully house trained

My little new boy hasn't had any indoor accidents for a week now, he is crated at night which helps, but during the day he's been great..

ANNM172 i heard about the asda ones but never got to try them as they stopped doing them at our store.

It was a good deal - I wish I had bought more

I used to think that they were a waste of money and used newspaper . But I got them for my last litter and found them great.

I never found that it made the toilet training harder as they were only used for accidents as the pups were taken out after meals and as soon as they had wakened up after a sleep you get to know the way each pup acts when  it needs to go therefor the pads should not be used as a toilet area and be taken out regularly through out the day then toilet training is fairly easy.

I'm sure they are fine for a litter but when they get to new homes I think newspaper or pads are a waste of time. 

Taking outside is much more effective and pups soon learn.  Praise  a dog for going inside is never good and with one pup many years ago we found she was very paper trained (oour fault) and she would go on any paper lying round the house so we had to make sure no paper was on the floor or could be knocked on the floor. (Very cleaver pup mind!)  After that we taught them to go outside and this is what they did and they now know to ask to go out.

Dog doorbells are becoming a new "trend" for toilet training! :-P

I would have agreed when I had bigger breeds but Papillons take ages to toilet train and so at least if they go to the pad it's easier than finding it everywhere.
It was the best kept secret to me. My GSDs were usually trained in about 5 days and my first pap was a year old!
I now have a pad down for the first few months but still try to catch them and get them out- problem is they have finished before you reach them as they are tiny.
I tried everything and then other breeders laughed and told me always to have a mop handy- I wouldn't part with them but just accept now they will be clean later than my big dogs were

Thats intresting that as a breed they are harder to house train.  Also not good when this is a breed my parents want to "retire" to when they are no-longer able to give the setters what they need!  Any idea's as to why your paps are harder to house train?  I always thought they were smart dogs(????) and therefore would pick up house training quickly aswell as other things?

I think it's because it's harder to catch them in the act as it's over so quickly and they are onto something else compared to a bigger dog when you can catch them mid flow and correct? I know now from speaking to others that many toy breeds can be the same.
Yes they are very smart- I find toilet training the only bug bear but they do eventually get there.
I know others think they come to tell you and get a cuddle instead but I am pretty fanatical about watching- One of mine came in from the garden to wee yesterday then trotted back out tail wagging- I was fuming!!!
If my mum was having one I would suggest she maybe had one that was a little older hvaing been run on maybe.
I really don't know the answer- wish I did

One of mine came in from the garden to wee yesterday then trotted back out tail wagging- I was fuming!!!

To me that is the drawback of teaching them to use pads/paper indoors - they see it as the place where they are meant to go :-(

I know but the alternative is finding it all over the house in a million hidden puddles rather than on one easy to clean up pad.
I would never have used them with other breeds but they make the puppy months manageable

I should have clarified that the part I was referring to was that you were fuming because she went indoors :-) She was doing what she has been trained to do .... toilet indoors rather than out in the garden so from her point of view she was getting it right as she hasn't been taught that toileting is only done outside. I had one puppy who was a dream to house train and the other was very hard. The second dog had been kept shut in a kitchen for the first four months of his life and then spent the next month in a rescue kennels so he too had learnt that the only place he could go was the room that he was in. It took a fair while to train him that outdoors was the only place to go - lots of standing around in the wind and rain in the dead of night but we got there in the end :-)

>>To me that is the drawback of teaching them to use pads/paper indoors - they see it as the place where they are meant to go
>I know but the alternative is finding it all over the house in a million hidden puddles rather than on one easy to clean up pad.

It's not really fair to be 'fuming' because a puppy comes indoors to pee on a pad when peeing on pads indoors has always been encouraged. All she's doing is what she's learned is the right thing to do.

newspapers are far cheaper and when the puppies leave home it is chaeaper for their new owner too :-)

Have you looked at using a Aquamat, be best to buy a couple so when one is drying you have a spare. They do have a website, but i'm no good with links.

I would have agreed when I had bigger breeds but Papillons take ages to toilet train and so at least if they go to the pad it's easier than finding it everywhere.
It was the best kept secret to me. My GSDs were usually trained in about 5 days and my first pap was a year old!
I now have a pad down for the first few months but still try to catch them and get them out- problem is they have finished before you reach them as they are tiny.

I find it works the exact opposite. My Papillons (the bitches, the dog is 100 % reliable at all times) will go and pee on anything they find on the floor, such as when it has been really wet weather I often put a rug or mat down inside the front door for wet paws to be somewhat dried on when they come in. It never fails, they go and wee on it. If there is NOTHING down at all, they are far more likely to wait or to ask. I agree they are harder to housetrain though -need taking out a lot more frequently.

I used them for my current pup and he was dry long in the house quite quickly and would always go outside if he could.  I find them much better than newspaper as you don't get newsprint on the floor and they are really easy to pick up. 

Personally I value my sleep and after the first couple of weeks stopped getting up with the pup so he pee'd and poo'd on the mats through the night and when I was at work in between dog walks.  I would definitely recommend them.

As for price I bought some off ebay but they were quite thin so not great for lots of rottie pee!  I also had bob martin ones from asda that I think were £10.  Poundstretchers had good quality ones but they weren't particularly cheap.  I would definitely say that you get what you pay for but I would never use paper again after using pads.

Yes I bought aqua,ats at crufts and they are fab- I should also have shares in kitchen roll - we go through at least 12 per week- lol won't be too long now I hope

Glat it's not just me marianne- I would always warn potential owners just so they know not to expect it in a week

Hi Jean - I wasn't really fuming but was a bit frustrated- You are right I can't have the easy life and then whinge- It was just that she had been out for ages in the garden

If any of you are near Makro in Coventry - they are closing - their puppy pads are reduced to clear at £1 for a pack of 20.

Wow!

Wish I was!!!

I've purchased pads from our local pound shop. I've found a novel way to use them... when I put milk or food down for the pups, they are really good for catching all the mess surrounding the food bowls, then after the meal, they can be easily folded up and thrown away.

I've made a toileting box which I plan to attempt my litter to use. They are only 3 weeks and our first attempt didn't work out too well... I'll try again at 4 weeks. In the meantime they're going to the edge of the vetbed when in the box to wee, now they're spending more time outside, i'm laying vetbed as a rug on the tiled floor, so the washing machine is practically on all the time...

I'm going to look into the incontinence pads, good idea!!