Hi
I am looking for a remote to be used with a Petsafe 100 training collar (static).  My car was broken into and the remote was stolen but not the collar.  Petsafe, do not supply just the remote so I an unable to order one from them.  If anyone has one I could buy please let me know.  Alternatively, I may sell the collar and all the items with it (minus the remote) if anyone is interested.

Please do not reply with any comments on the use of static collars.

Thanks

> Please do not reply with any comments on the use of static collars.
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OK I won't but you list your hobbies as obedience so you must have progressed beyond needing anything like this by now.  Chuck it in the bin!

> Please do not reply with any comments on the use of static collars.

I think you're on the wrong forum if you don't want any comments.

Well you have!

Scenario: Sheep killer dog, last chance saloon, PTS or last attempt - one session, massive improvement - keeping remote for future if needed. End of scenario.

Any tool that is used correctly can be useful, especially if it saves a life.

I asked for no comments as its for an item to buy not justify.  Lets save the debate of whether they are right or wrong for the forum.

> Petsafe, do not supply just the remote so I an unable to order one from them.

Did you contact them direct to ask?  Although it may not be on their website I would imagine most companies have the equivalent of a spare parts dept in case of faults or failure.  Can you beg?!!

In the meantime you could try eBay...

> Lets save the debate of whether they are right or wrong for the forum.

Erm.. This is the forum..

erm........ i know but this was on the general and bring and buy.

> Please do not reply with any comments on the use of static collars.
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BarkingMad - as you know full well the views on static collars on this forum - why on earth would you think that someone who posts on here might use one?

Thanks for not shouting at me, it seems everyone else wants to preach when its not that sort of post.  I have rang them but they do not sell any items separately unfortunately.

I had intended to send this to just the Bring & Buy but sent it to the General by error - opps!

I did not realise this was the case as I have read some previous posts in the past when this subject has been up for debate.  I have asked this post to be deleted.

I appreciate you taking the time for your post but to be honest if I was fully aware I wouldnt have put it on would I ??

> Any tool that is used correctly can be useful, especially if it saves a life.

How about using a lead?

have you tried looking on ebay for a second hand one that you could just use the remote.  Personally I don't agree with them but I do believe in being nice to people who use the forum. :)

Sounds simple but you know its not as straight forward as that.  Determined dogs can find an opportunity to get out and hunt.  When a small dog can jump a 6 six foot high fence to get to the fields behind a lead wouldnt save those sheep.  Please dont even go there with a response like, keep your dog indoors then as you know as well as I do that isnt realistic or practical. These collars have their uses in extreme cases where they are on 'death row'.  I would use on if my dog was threatened to be PTS unless it was sorted.  How would you rehabilitate a sheep killer just out of interest?

Thanks, I am getting some funny responses for which I am replying to in the same manner.  Did not want this.

We all have to ensure our dogs cannot escape from our property. 
I really can't see how an electric shock collar can be of any use in such circumstances as by the very nature of such escapes you are not likely to be aware or able to use it properly.  It seems to me if you shock a dog that has louped over your wall he is not going to turn round and come back he is going to belt for it.

> I would use on if my dog was threatened to be PTS

So that is not the case in your use of this collar.

>How would you rehabilitate a sheep killer just out of interest?

I would not attempt to rehabilitate.  My entire efforts would concentrate on ensuring he had no opportunity to meet sheep.

How would you rehabilitate a sheep killer

you cant and good for you using a collar rather than having a dog pts. i was attacked on this forum for buying one- which i may add, i still havent had to zap her yet, but its there for emergencies. im afraid most on this forum are a bit black and white because unless you are in the situation yourself, you cannot appreciate that life is often in shades of grey

> unless you are in the situation yourself

Every dog owner is in the situation of ensuring their dog does not bother sheep.

not true, my dogs have never seen sheep!

Firstly this was not for my dog so I have never used on on my dog.  Secondly the dog lives in the Forest of Dean (lots of sheep there).  Thirdly, the collar was used on the dog when it was on a longline around sheep.  The dog made attempts to get out over the fence to hunt the sheep.  Thankfully, the dog has stopped this behaviour now and can live in harmony with its owners - ALIVE!

I wish that people would read the post fully. 

Easier said than done when the dog lives in the forest of dean. (sheep city!)

> not true, my dogs have never seen sheep!

Not sure what you are responding to there.

> Easier said than done when the dog lives in the forest of dean. (sheep city!)

I live in the Lake District.  We have sheep too.

> I wish that people would read the post fully. 

I haven't seen any post describing what you did up till now.  Do you not wonder what other people do to stop their dogs getting out of their property?
If this is not for yourself are you saying you do this to dogs professionally? :-(

Thank you! I have asked this post to be removed because I am being hit from all directions.  People are jumping to conclusions, not reading the post properly and giving me a hard time.

The level of static was used on my hand before going on the dog.  I felt the static, similar to touching an electric fence - maybe Farmers should be told not to use them to keep their animals safe (sorry, just a bit of sarcasm) Seriously, I bought this collar cos the owners couldnt afford it and it saved there dogs life after only one session.  It was worth every penny. 

Thanks again.

Lets hope people will do what was in the original post and not comment on the pro's & con's.

I was asked to help one dog owner who was in trouble with a dog that had killed a sheep. After the attack it was trying its best to get out and get to them. They live in an area where sheep graze freely, its like a huge common.  If the dog was not stopped, the owner of the sheep would insist on having the dog PTS.  They could not afford a collar so I bought one.  They were unsure of how to use it properly so I said I would research it and help them out.  They are lovely people who wanted to save this dog from being PTS and it worked.  I am not a pro dog trainer and have never made out to be.  I hope to never be asked  to use it again but who knows.  I spoke to many trainers that have used them - you will be amazed how many people have them but wouldnt admit to owning one.

I asked for no comments on this subject and have been inundated, mostly bad but some nice.  I would appreciate that this ends here.

Probably fenced in that makes it easier to be able to let your dogs off and put them on the lead when walking thro the fields they are in - which is what I do with mine although they pay no interest in sheep which is lucky.  The Forest of Dean is like a huge common, no fences, sheep graze on the side of the road and wander in and out of peoples property (unless fenced off).  I would imagine a lovely place to live unless your dog is trying to kill the sheep that is!

I don't see the need for sarcasm.

> I spoke to many trainers that have used them - you will be amazed how many people have them but wouldnt admit to owning one.

Doesn't surprise me at all especially the latter part!  Why couldn't secure their fencing with a trip wire if they could not raise it high enough or build a run for the dog to exercise in? 

> maybe Farmers should be told not to use them to keep their animals safe

These are not pet animals that people have a choice in owning.  We all need farmers to be able to safely keep animals.

I want to end this now, its done and the dog is happy and alive

I was said in jest!

>The Forest of Dean is like a huge common, no fences, sheep graze on the side of the road and wander in and out of peoples property (unless fenced off)

Just like the Lake District, Dartmoor, the North York moors, Bodmin - people live in all these places with dogs, plus of course there are the holidaymakers.

> Probably fenced in that makes it easier to be able to let your dogs off and put them on the lead when walking thro the fields they are in - which is what I do with mine although they pay no interest in sheep which is lucky.  The Forest of Dean is like a huge common, no fences, sheep graze on the side of the road and wander in and out of peoples property (unless fenced off).  I would imagine a lovely place to live unless your dog is trying to kill the sheep that is!
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> I don't see the need for sarcasm.

I don't understand this post.  Are you refering to the Lake District?  The fells are open here.  Who has been sarcastic?

> I was said in jest!

You need to indicate what you are reply to.  Nobody will know which was the jest.  I'm hoping it was the fact you had an electric collar at all! :-)

You dont like these collars, I have used one - you have made your point, now please respect my request to end this thread.

It was said in jest was referring to the static fences that farmers use - trying to lighten the tone as you seem quite angry!

> It was said in jest was referring to the static fences that farmers use

Electric fences hurt!  I have felt them myself and one of my dogs touched one, that I had not noticed, once and screamed and was very traumatised. 
Yes, it does make me angry. Why do you keep posting after asking everyone else to stop?

Why do you keep posting when I have politely asked you to stop?

> Why do you keep posting when I have politely asked you to stop?

Because you didn't!  :-D

Subject closed - Have asked the administration to have this removed. 

NO MORE POSTS PLEASE!

> Have asked the administration to have this removed.

On what basis?  This is a forum and I don't see that any of the TOS have been broken.  If you don't want to post just stop!

DUE TO ONE MEMBER WHO REFUSES TO STOP POSTING WHEN I HAVE ASKED THEM TO STOP, THESE REPLIES HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFF.

PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE STOP THIS NOW AS IT FEELS LIKE ITS GETTING OUT OF HAND.

THANK YOU

> PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE STOP THIS NOW

Please do :-)

seems like it your turn today barkingmad, funny how its same person upseting people with their petty RUBBISH GOING ON AND ON AND ON! DONT MATTER WHAT YOU SAY THAT PERSON WILL COME BACK AND TWIST YOUR WORDS ,and go on and on and on!

if you realised who you were responding to you may have understood that the op works all over the world with the most extream cases in dogs and just somtimes the extream equipment is the last to be used in the vast tool box of this mans knowledge and he would only use the e-collar as a last resort when all else has failed.

we are talking about dogs that will be PTS if not sorted out.
not a general way or training as his training is mostly reward training with verbal corrections (A)

Yet more petty bickering and nit picking. Very tedious to read. PLEASE use the ignore button if you do not wish to hear the views of any member. That is what it is there for. It also helps us determine those members whom are causing most problems on this forum. As stated previously, we will remove anyone who continuously causes bad feeling or conflict for the sake of it. That applies to all members.