I  want to find out about an official note you need to have in order to enter more classes if you had to withdraw from one class due to being over qualified.
At a resent show I informed the show manager that I needed to withdraw from one class as my dog had won her self out of  it. I  phoned the manager in advance to let her know and also reminded her and one of the steward on the day, and all seemed fine. But later on I was told I could not enter any more classes as I had not provided an official  note to give me permission, witch I would need after withdrawing.  I told the manager who then gave me a note to hand to the table. The note  was excepted but I was asked to make shore an official  note was made out to the KC, witch the show manager  kindly sorted out for me . As you can tell I am a little confused. What I want to know is , how do I get a note if I need one again, And who do I get it from?

Normally it is the show secretary.  You get a note and the dog is moved to the correct class, which is normally Open if it not an over age puppy or Junior.

If you enter a dog into a class it is over age for or over qualified you can transfer to open, you don't have to withdraw.  However if your dog became over qualified after the closing date (or infact within 7 das prior to the closing date, you can still go into the enterd class. :)

My bitch  won her self out of Debu, I didn't know we  could be moved to Open . She was already in another 5 classes and I did not see the point to move her to another class. Plus I think she is still a little young for open.

But moving to open is your only option.  It often can happen and did to a dog my dad has in partnership.  He got transferd to open, looked very immature, still managed a place!

You can't withdraw from breed classes, so she should have been moved and shown in Open, the fact she was in other classes had nothing to do with it, but I can see how it might have confused people dealing with it.

Hopefully the Kennel club will not pick up on it, but technically an exhibit could be disqualified from all awards by not going into a breed class.

It was the NECGB show.she was in PB,JB,NB. Taken out (withdrawn form) Debutant bitch . and also in SBB and SNB. I did phone the show manager when she won herself out of the class, was told to sort it out at the show, so told her again at the show and all seemed fine, no mention of a note  till we went in to SBB. and was told I could not enter without one. 

Oh dear :(

Looking at the rules printed in the schedule it says that if an exhibitor reports before the judging there are two options, withdrawal or transfer, but subject to Reg 9 (j) and 20.

It doesn't mention anything about notes???

Does anyone know what these regs say??? are they the ones that say you can't withdraw from breed classes?

When did she won herself out of debutant, was it after 7 days before the entries had closed for the show? If so you do not have to withdraw from a class that she is in theory overqualified for.
Also a dog can't withdraw from breed classes to remain unbeaten(which doesn't sound like this was the case)
If you withdraw you are unable to compete in any further classes, so once you withdrew from your 4th class you can't compete in your 5th or any further classes entered.
Withdrawal is different to transfers.

6 classes does seem quite alot for a puppy but that is just my opinion

> Looking at the rules printed in the schedule it says that if an exhibitor reports before the judging there are two options, withdrawal or transfer, but subject to Reg 9 (j) and 20.
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> It doesn't mention anything about notes???
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> Does anyone know what these regs say??? are they the ones that say you can't withdraw from breed classes?

No
9 j is regarding having to enter in a breed class if there is one & not just AV. A few other things to, although 20 does refer to that ruling in a sub section.

She won her self out of the class long before the 7 day thing, it was a few weeks before. And I phoned the show manager to tell them. I only enterd 6 classes as there are not many dogs in my breed so classes are often over quickly, and my bitch loves being in the ring.  Maybe withdraw is the wrong word then? I am still new to showing.  All I know is my girl won her self out of a class at the club show so I phoned to let them know.  When I told the manager at the show, I was not transferd she just crossed me off for that class  and said it was OK. No mention of a note or whether or not I could still enter the other classes.
Its all so Confusing . :(

> She won her self out of the class long before the 7 day thing, it was a few weeks before. And I phoned the show manager to tell them. I only enterd 6 classes as there are not many dogs in my breed so classes are often over quickly, and my bitch loves being in the ring.  Maybe withdraw is the wrong word then? I am still new to showing.  All I know is my girl won her self out of a class at the club show so I phoned to let them know.  When I told the manager at the show, I was not transferd she just crossed me off for that class  and said it was OK. No mention of a note or whether or not I could still enter the other classes.
> Its all so Confusing . :-(

Your right it is very confusing for new people in the show world, even the more experienced get it wrong.
If this happens again you should telephone the Secretary & not the show manager.

No, in our breed it is different.  It is the show manager - the Club secretary does not deal with the running of the show.

I think she should have been transferred to Open in place of Debutant, but I am still unclear myself as to whether she could still compete in the two later classes, which took place after Open and for which she was correctly entered.

As Vinya says, the later classes at our Club show rarely feature new dogs, and are over with quickly, so 6 classes aren't too many.  It would be too many at other shows.

I don't know if the form could have been altered to remove the incorrect class, as it was before the closing date???

> No, in our breed it is different.  It is the show manager - the Club secretary does not deal with the running of the show.
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> I think she should have been transferred to Open in place of Debutant, but I am still unclear myself as to whether she could still compete in the two later classes, which took place after Open and for which she was correctly entered.
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> As Vinya says, the later classes at our Club show rarely feature new dogs, and are over with quickly, so 6 classes aren't too many.  It would be too many at other shows.
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> I don't know if the form could have been altered to remove the incorrect class, as it was before the closing date???

It is unusual for the show manager to do this it is normally the Secretary or maybe the show secretary, as they have the entry forms.

What I probably would have advised in this situation is to not enter(cross out on entry form) the class for which the dog was over qualified for, as this was prior to the entries closing.

I believe that if she had transfer to open she is able to compete in the other classes but not if you chose to withdraw.
This is a question for the KC to clear up as I have read the red book and it isn't overly clear.