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Topic Dog Boards / Health / Poorly pup
- By Wiltshireone [gb] Date 26.04.09 20:46 UTC
My 4 month old pug puppy has a dicky tummy. He started to go from firm stools to Mr Whippy to splodges as the week has gone on but no blood and not quite water. He was wormed 2 weeks ago.

He eats dry food only - he was due to go raw this week but i think i need to get this sorted first (pr maybe the raw will sort it ???)

Tonight he has had two drippy bottom accidents in the house (very unusual to mess in the house).

He is eating and drinking and well in himself. Tonight i have given him chicken breast and rice. Should i starve him as i would an adult dog for 24 hours? Should i crate him tonight as usual, don't want him to mess himself, he is such a clean boy.

Any advice on this?
- By suz1985 [gb] Date 26.04.09 21:33 UTC
i wouldnt be changing his diet just yet, best to get him over this first of all. i would recommend getting him checked by a vet as soon as, young puppies dehydrate very quickly, and can easily become very ill. make sure he has plenty of water overnight, you may need to syring some if hes not taking it, and offer him small amounts of bland food overnight as well, chicken and rice is good.
is there any chance he could have eaten something he shouldnt have?
- By suejaw Date 26.04.09 21:34 UTC
Has he any other symptoms at all??

My boy had a dicky tummy yesterday and we had explosive poo everywhere, i was concerned and took him to the vets who said he had a stomach upset(which i knew).
Anyway they gave me some probiotic tablets and requested a stool sample over the next 3 days as they want to do some tests on them.
He has been on cooked chicken breast and rice for the past 24hrs and today his stools are firm and no other problems.
He is due back at the vets tomorrow for microchipping and his 2nd jab, will take sample along, just curious as to what he may of had - will check on cost first before i get them to send it off.

I worry about small pups and to be honest if its been going on longer than a few days and no improvement with rice and chicken diet i would call the vets for their advice at the very least. He is still very young and i know as i have done asked for an appointment.
- By Misty Date 26.04.09 21:51 UTC
I usually do starve pups if they are very loose so I would see how he is in the morning. If he's been OK overnight you could give him a light meal for breakfast. I usually go with boiled fish and rice, but I should think chicken and rice would be fine. If you think he's fine in himself, cheerful and drinking OK then I would probably stick to his routine overnight. If he's used to being crated then continue to do that.

You're right to think the raw food will sort out loose stools, it does tend to do just that, particularly raw tripe. When your pug has stopped having the squits on his light diet, you could replace the cooked fish/chicken with some raw minced tripe along with his rice and see how that goes. Then gradually change to all raw as you were due to.

Recently we've found that Pro-Kolin is a useful thing to have in the house which you could add while he's recovering. The first time we had some for one with bad diarrhoea we got it from the vet but now we just keep a tube in stock here just in case, and it's much cheaper from  http://www.hyperdrug.co.uk[url Hopefully once you've made the switch to raw feeding you will hardly ever need Pro-Kolin.

Hope it goes well overnight.
- By suejaw Date 26.04.09 22:03 UTC

> Recently we've found that Pro-Kolin is a useful


Wanted to ask, is this ok to give pups? I nearly got some online and will do in due course, but wasn't sure if this was ok for a 10 week old pup.
- By Misty Date 27.04.09 14:28 UTC Edited 27.04.09 14:35 UTC
Just had a look on the tube; it says under USE: Cats and puppies: 1-2 ml, two-three times a day. So I suppose it's OK for puppies. Mind you, you'd think a pug would need a different dose to a dogue wouldn't you. I think it gives a formula by weight of the dog on the box (which I have thrown away) Looking at the ingredients it looks fairly harmless anyway. Does it give any dosage advice on the manufacturers website?

Actually, have just noticed you are not the OP so don't have pugs! :-) Your breed would probably need a similar dose to ours. The applicator is calibrated so you can set it to whatever you need.
- By denese [gb] Date 29.04.09 10:12 UTC
If he has been wormed, it can't be that, has it been since the worming or just started. I would not stave a puppy unless advised by a vet. Try boiled rice with the chicken.
Check his temp. if its not high. Scambles eggs, he needs good vit. food if he is pooing it all out.
Pups can be little B's at eating everthing. He may have eaten somthing that as upset his tum. Has he eaten any flowers as they are just all coming out.

Denese
- By kayc [gb] Date 29.04.09 10:17 UTC
Suejaw, yes, its fine to give to young puppies.. I needed to use it for my last litter, and started around 4weeks old.. it is a pre-biotic and pro-biotic in one tube .. the measurements are very clear, but dont worry, you cannot overdose.. so an slip of the turn and extra ml. won't hurt
- By suejaw Date 29.04.09 11:22 UTC
My boy wouldn't eat the rice, ate around it, i then tried boiled potato's mashed up with no salt mixed in with white fish and he eats this.

In reference to someone mentioning scrambled eggs, i was advised and i know each case is different not to give a pup with a dodgy stomach any form of dairy produce or eggs, even if they are cooked. This can upset them even more. Was told no goats milk either.
- By suejaw Date 29.04.09 11:23 UTC
Kayc and Misty,

Thanks for that, i have ordered some online, hopefully it'll come tomorrow. I called the vets and they charge a fortune for it, so glad we can get these things online for a fraction of the price.
- By Wiltshireone [gb] Date 29.04.09 20:19 UTC
you may have just solved my problem!!
For the past 3-4 weeks i have given them half an egg a day with their breakfast. They love it. However, i thought eggs were binding.
Now, looking at the pattern of his poos starting firm then getting soft, then whippy, then runny over time it could be the egg.
He went to the vets and has meds but i think it now could be the egg. I am moving them to raw so will stop the egg and keep going with that. I am now certain it is the egg.........lets give it a try!

Has anyone else had a problem with egg? having chickens i thought the dogs were a great outlet for the mountains they produce!!!
- By Misty Date 29.04.09 20:48 UTC

> so glad we can get these things online for a fraction of the price


It is a small blessing in life these days :-)
- By suejaw Date 29.04.09 21:30 UTC
My other boy who is an adult is back on the raw and eats egg's, they are great in combination with the bones and meat, but saying that it was something that the vet said with a puppy and a dicky tummy. My new vets know i feed raw with my older boy and they have said that if done properly then its a very healthy diet and very few dogs suffer from the bones.

Maybe until his tummy has settled lay off the eggs and when its been better for a little while start reintroducing raw meat and eggs(cooked to start with), then go onto raw eggs and see if this makes any difference. It may be his stomach is just too sensitive right now to be able to tolerate raw egg or egg of any kind.
Its all trial and error with pups, so yes i would remove them from his diet and see if it makes any difference. Good luck.
- By suejaw Date 29.04.09 21:31 UTC

> It is a small blessing in life these days


I had a call from my vets who said that they wouldn't ever be able to beat the price online and recommended i go online for it. I am really liking these new vets. Well i had already ordered it and hoping it will come tomorrow.
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