Hi, hoping some of you can educate me!

I have my own affix and my mum lives on the same property but in her own annexe. My mum had one of my puppies 2 years ago, she is registered in my mums name, my mum is thinking about breeding her next year. Me and my mum work together everyday with all our dogs and she helps when i have a litter so is very involved with all the dogs.

My question is if she breeds her girl we would both like her litter to carry the affix, as she is part of our breeding, i have been reading on the kc site and read the application for a seperate interest, doesnt seem worded very well (could just be me having a blonde day) :) however i wanted to know if i apply to have my mum as a seperate interest does that mean that any dogs registered in my mums name will also carry the affix, without it affecting dogs that belong to me and my husband?

My mum is part of the team and i would really like to have her involved officially if that makes sense?

Any knowledge would be gratefully recieved :)

A separate interest could be registered just for your mum, or for you and your mum, or for all three parties - to use the affix, the dog's registration needs to be the same as the 'interest'.

M.

If I'm not mistaken your mum will have to pay the same 'set up' fee as if she were having her own affix plus the yearly maintenance fee.
If you wanted the bitch of your mother to carry your affix you could have the bitch on loan which is somethiong like £20.

I thought from reading through my breed books that if someone decides to breed from their bitch and they don't have an affix then it would keep the breeders affix?? Or is that only when the stud dog has the same affix?

Only the owner of an affix can put it on a puppy/dog. Perhaps in the instance you are thinking of, the breeder had a loan of a bitch agreement on the bitch they bred, so the subsequent litter had their affix on. Or if the owner of the affix bred both parents of a litter, they can put their affix on the beginning of the name.

Thanks Lexy, yes i have read through the guidelines again and it is a fee of £45 to 'set up' and then her own maintenance fee too, it would be nice though to continue our affix through my mums girl too, also if she does have a litter from her she will keep one and then that would apply in future years to the puppy she kept also so i am going to take out a seperate interest for my mum.

Never knew how the loan thing worked, thats interesting too

Thanks :)

> I thought from reading through my breed books that if someone decides to breed from their bitch and they don't have an affix then it would keep the breeders affix?? Or is that only when the stud dog has the same affix?

Er no the only people who can register puppies using a Kennel Name are the person(s)to whom it was granted-providing they own the dam or have the dam on a "Loan of Bitch agreement"

Its obviously the way i've read the book then..
This was back in the 70's as well from what i recall.. Anyhoo.. Not that i plan to breed in any distant future but its all good to learn about these things..

> I thought from reading through my breed books that if someone decides to breed from their bitch and they don't have an affix then it would keep the breeders affix?? Or is that only when the stud dog has the same affix?

No if someone decides to breed who doesn't have an affix then No affix is applied. the dogs name would be Joe Bloggs not affix Joe Bloggs as only the person who holds an affix can use it.

edited to say: others have answered this question

> No if someone decides to breed who doesn't have an affix then No affix is applied. the dogs name would be Joe Bloggs not affix Joe Bloggs as only the person who holds an affix can use it.
>

Ah that is another thing i have now learned as there are dogs in my breed with no affix, this makes sense now also..

Thanks guys.. You have to start somewhere.
Just got the Book of the Bitch as i'm interested in knowing more and more, so far the book is a wealth of knowledge. Don't have bitches but still a worthy read.

>I thought from reading through my breed books that if someone decides to breed from their bitch and they don't have an affix then it would keep the breeders affix?? Or is that only when the stud dog has the same affix?

It used to be that, if a breeder had bred both dog and bitch, they could buy the puppies and register them under the same affix, even if they didn't own either sire or dam any more.

I don't know if that's changed - it was a while ago.

Other than that, if the breeder of the litter don't have an affix, the puppies doen't get one, unless the KC gives them the annual KC one.

Hi Sue,

I know several breeders whose affix has been added as a prefix to the name of a puppy they get back from a mating between two dogs they have bred :)  I'm not sure if this has now stopped but it was certainly the case fairly recently.

For eg. say my affix is Banderoo (who knows where that came from :-D ) and I breed a litter from my own bitch with the affix Numptytoes (can I pick 'em :-o ) to a sire with the Numptytoes affix and the original breeder of both sire and dam would like a puppy.  All of my litter would be called Banderoo something or other but the original breeder's puppy could be called Numptytoes Banderoo Whatever - i.e. the affix of the breeder of both sire and dam would preceed mine, even although I was the official breeder :)

HTH (sorry about dreadful eg names!)
Teri

If person A had a Scroobles (I can pick 'em too!) bitch and mated it to a Scroobles dog (neither of which was owned by the owner of the Scroobles affix) and Person A didn't have an affix, could they still (as used to be the case) sell unregistered puppies to the owner of the Scroobles affix, who could then register them as Scroobles?

> could they still (as used to be the case) sell unregistered puppies to the owner of the Scroobles affix, who could then register them as Scroobles?

I haven't got a scroobles Jan :-D

glad to see this thread is taking a comical turn....i found the choice of eg: 'kennel names' very amusing :)

> If person A had a Scroobles (I can pick 'em too!) bitch and mated it to a Scroobles dog (neither of which was owned by the owner of the Scroobles affix) and Person A didn't have an affix, could they still (as used to be the case) sell unregistered puppies to the owner of the Scroobles affix, who could then register them as Scroobles?

No. The puppies have to be registered by the breeder. They can register those pups without an affix - even if they do have one, then the owner of the Scroobles affix could put their name in front. eg: pup from two Scroobles parents is registered as 'Having a Laugh' - if this pup is then transferred to the owner of 'Scroobles' he becomes Scroobles Having a Laugh. If the pup goes to someone else who has an affix (or to the owner of Scroobles but they bred only one parent) he becomes Having a Laugh At Scroobles

I have just had to change the registration of one of our dogs, as she was registered in only my name but the affix is registered in both mine and my husbands name.  Without changing this we couldn't register any litters from her with the affix.  You could consider becoming a joint owner of the dog.

> No if someone decides to breed who doesn't have an affix then No affix is applied. the dogs name would be Joe Bloggs not affix Joe Bloggs as only the person who holds an affix can use it.

Not quite - I had a bitch who was under consideration for breeding - but her breeder wanted the litter to keep their affix (as we had seen other breeders do) - I spoke to the KC who confirmed this was possible providing the original breeder of the bitch had also bred the sire used

Im having a similiar problem , me and my bf have just had brought a dog and me and my mum have added a dog . mine and mums are easy as we both have the affix together, so we can add our affix on the end .. no worries .... however I want the affix on mine and my bf's dog but cant as my bf isnt on the affix name. I really really want him to be involved yet I dont want the name to be just in mine and my mums. Its always been me and mums affix , but my bf has already said he wants the affix on this dog but  I want him on as co owner without adding him on the to the affix , just the name of the dog , not sure how to do this . any suggestions on how to get around this , otherwise I ll have to call the KC ... thanks

Not the cheapest option, but I'd just transfer the dog to you and your mum, add the affix and then transfer back to you and him.

M.

yeah thought of it like that .. I want it in mine , mums and his name .. so all three of us .. but yea change ownership, add affix , then add the 3 of us ... maybe like that :)

> No if someone decides to breed who doesn't have an affix then No affix is applied. the dogs name would be Joe Bloggs not affix Joe Bloggs as only the person who holds an affix can use it.
> Not quite - I had a bitch who was under consideration for breeding - but her breeder wanted the litter to keep their affix (as we had seen other breeders do) - I spoke to the KC who confirmed this was possible providing the original breeder of the bitch had also bred the sire used

Yes I know this but I was trying to keep things simple when explaining.