hi just need some advice not for me has any of you or would you do a mating with auntie and nephew?
i wouldnt just getting other peoples views.
the sisters both have the same parents so its not like one has a different dad.
any advice would be great and thanks in advance.
i know you can do grandfather and granddaughter not sure on the rest

It depends entirely on the quality, health and temperaments of all the ancestors, especially the shared ones.  Close matings don't 'produce' problems - they amplify whatever is already there.  So knowing what is there is the only way to know what you may produce.

thanks for that both lots of parents have been health tested and there has been no problems on either side of pedigree,
the temperments of both sets are brill

> thanks for that both lots of parents have been health tested and there has been no problems on either side of pedigree,

its got to go much further back than just the parents

I have done half Uncle to Niece, my next litter will be such too, where one parent of the litter is half sibling of one of the parents of the other parent.

As has been said you need to know what the shared ancestors have produced, good and especially bad.  What is the longevity of the dogs behind temperament etc.

its got to go much further back than just the parents
Absolutely.  I wouldn't consider such a mating unless I knew every dog for at least 3 (preferably 4) generations back in the pedigree and possibly some of the siblings too.  That obviously takes years to achieve, which is why it is usually recommended that only experienced breeders do close matings. :)

its for my auntie who has bred and showed dobermans (hope im allowed to put that in )
many years ago.
now she has a different breed that she has been breeding for a few years along with my mum who has the same breed.
so we know that the pedigrees have been fine with health and temperments.
although my auntie has been breeding for a while she is unsure about this cross breeding
people are saying its ok others wont do it.
her last litter was a grandfather/granddaughter mating and the pups turned out very healthy.
she has a male in mind for her other girl that is health tested but like ive said its her nephew.
thanks to you all for replying any other info will be great.

I agree with West coast close matings should only be done with maximum knowledge of the ancestors.

I tend to think a Novice breeder is better off with more open pedigrees, gives them more scope for the directions they may wish to take once they have more knowledge and have developed more of an idea of which lines most match their idea of what meets the breed standard most.

> she has a male in mind for her other girl that is health tested but like ive said its her nephew.
> thanks to you all for replying any other info will be great

What does she think to achieve with this mating?  Which virtues are the related animals strong in that she won't get by using a less related sire?

Any breeding should be carried out with a specific aim in mind, if one is looking to achieve a specific result rather than a blending of the chosen parents, this is when one skews the odds in favour of those characteristics by choosing related animals strong in those characteristics, but it is then doubly important to ensure they do not share common faults or that the relatives have any of the failings you would like to avoid.

thankyou brainless i will mention this to my auntie like i said shes still unsure about using him
and she wont put her girls with any thing.
shes hoping to keep a pup herself.
thanks for all your good advice

> would you do a mating with auntie and nephew?

I wouldn't but I'm sure there is plenty who would

It really depends on how tightly they are bred also. Two different matings between Aunt and Nephew could and will haev two totally different inbreeding %s