hello with our bullies & staffords we used to feed mainly a barf diet therefore have given chick wings to larger breeds but just wondering as i am sure i have heard of given them to toy breed before...mine never have had them....and i have a tub from m & s to use by the 30th...anyone given them toys or pugs please? thank you CD 'ers

hi there,our tibetan spaniel girls eat wings,i cut each wing in 2 at the joint and then slightly bash the bone while keeping the skin intact and they seem to eat them fine,although it is sometimes like watching a python swallow a rabbit! hope this is of some help.

thank you..dont know why i am scared to give them to them!

Hi Pamb,

I posted the same question a while ago. I have CKCS's and was a bit worried about feeding chicken wings.........needn't have been because they devour them and get so excited about them  :-)

They'll love 'em! Just do as advised about breaking them up and as always keep an eagle eye out! Lucky doggies!

Affenpinscher eats them at least twice a week, just as they come. :)

Thank you..they ate them with such delight...no probs! Thanks again

I have a pom/chi who is raw fed at the last weigh in she was about 7lbs. She gets exactly the same as my 40kg GSD  just smaller bits. She loves chicken wings,poultry necks and beef chunks all with bones etc
So no worries about chick wings

gave my lab chicken wings last night for the first time and she loved them,didn,t know about breaking them up and this morning her poo was awful,very pale and very runny-poppy's happy though-no sign of tummy ache and she slept well as usual.i'll be more carefull in future.just starting her on raw.it's great to know you're all out there ready to share your experiences and ideasx

> anyone given them toys or pugs

I believe there's someone in Bullmastiffs and Pugs who says they all have chicken wings with no problems (I'm sure I surfed their site once). Also I know someone with Russian Black Terriers and a Miniature Poodle who all get chicken wings with no problem. In fact she lectures on various subjects, feeding being one of them.

If you do it, please post to say how your toys get on. I'm hoping to add a toy breed in the future and would hate to have to go back to complete feeds after raw feeding successfully with our Dogues.

I give my pugs chicken wings (and carcasses) with no problems at all.  Infact, the LOVE chicken wing day!!  I have labradors and the pugs are fed exactly the same sort of diet, mostly raw with some complete also.

Here's my Gracie devouring a wing lol

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w230/silverbriar/100_1337.jpg

ha ha ha ha looks like she has a huge mis-shapen tongue bless her

Lol!  Yeah! 

The pugs just seem to chew them with their back teeth (no idea what those are called lol) til everything is mush, then eat the lot down.

Jess she is gorgeous and the double of my girl!

Can i just confirm, when you are talking feeding chicken wings and carcusses to pugs, do they have to be raw or can it be cooked?

Raw!  Do not cook them or the bones will splinter.

That's what i thought.....it was just when you mentioned carcusses i thought you meant after carving.

I will give it a try. I have always stuck to dry food only with my pugs with the odd pigs ear or egg as a treat. I prefer natural treats to pedigree smackos and rubbish like that which would double their weight soon as look at it! I assume a chicken wing is fairly low in calories.

The carcasses we get are raw and we get them from Landywoods.  All the dogs love them!

I dont really give mine treats, except when they're showing.  But as a meal sometimes i will blend some cook liver and fill a cow hoof with it.  They LOVE that!  And makes meal time more interesting lol

Im not sure about the calories in a chicken wing.  Probably if you remove the skin its less fattening i guess.

Hi all, I gave my pug chicken wings after reading advice on here that they might help to loosen my lil pugs baby teeth. It didn't work, so when i contacted my vet to find out the cost for removing the teeth I mentioned that i'd tried everything including feeding raw chicken wings and she really told me off. She said that the bones can still splinter and that the chicken can also spread bacteria in the stomach because of it's rawness! What to do? :}

One in a million might have problems, so the vets can't endorse raw feeding. On a personal note my german shepherd spent the first 12 months of her life back and forth to the vets with endless health problems when she was fed complete. We switched to raw feeding and she never went to the vets again. My opinion based on this, keep on giving the Chicken Wings, nature will do the rest.

One in a million might have problems, so the vets can't endorse raw feeding.
And the nutritional teaching they get at college is given by dog food manufacturers.  If dogs were looking for their own food, they wouldn't munch away in a wheat field!  They'd go and catch a rabbit or bird and eat the lot. :)
The only time my Vet has needed to operate for perforated gut has been when the owner has given (or the dog has stolen!) cooked bones or the dog has eaten foreign objects.  My Vet feeds barf to his own dogs.  He tells clients to give their pups chicken wings, usually every other day for a month, before he talks about removing puppy canines himself. :)  But then he's of the 'older generation' and has plenty of experience, and what I value even more, dog common sense!  He has the latest equipment but leads a very simple life himself, growing his own veg, very practicle but no flash car, works in jeans and t-shirt etc - his first concern is for the dog and not his pocket. :)

> And the nutritional teaching they get at college is given by dog food manufacturers.

Why does this notion never go away?  :-)  They may be advised of what is on the market by manufacturers but they will learn nutrition along with all the other essential aspects of anatomy and physiology.  They will also be taught and experience in their practical placements all the common medical emergencies so they will have some understanding right from the beginning how common or not problems may arise due to various methods of feeding.

Why does this notion never go away?
Because it's true!  Each newly qualified Vet (and my practice has a newly qualified Vet every 2 years) arrives with the idea that complete food is the only way to feed pet dogs.  The prinicipal is 59 years old and in all his years has never needed to operate on a perforated gut unless the dog has eaten rubbish or cooked bones.  If his experience was different, then he wouldn't be feeding his own dogs raw bones.  It's one of the first things that he passes on to his new Associates, along with the fact that it's not beneficial to neuter every dog that walks through the door.  He's a gem! :) :)

> Because it's true!

What do you think they are doing in their A&P lectures then?  You cannot study physiology without understanding nutrition.  These are intelligent people they know dogs were fed by other means before completes became available.

Intelligence should never be confused with common sense. :) 

I am merely stating my Vet's opinion.  I have no need to argue with you - we agree on very little. :)  You are welcome to have the last word.  Readers can draw their own conclusions.

>Readers can draw their own conclusions.

They certainly can :-)  Intelligence is no bar to common sense but as they are taught A&P they should not be required to rely entirely upon it.

> She said that the bones can still splinter

they can but its very very rare for them to hurt themselves

> and that the chicken can also spread bacteria in the stomach because of it's rawness!

lol, thats just daft! trish, have any of your dogs ever found a dead thing on a walk and scoffed it before you can stop them? even if not plenty here have had that happen (Tio once ate a degrading rabbit, lovely!) and no ill effects- just think how much they all like tripe! dogs are designed to eat raw meat and as such their stomachs are more acidic to deal with the stuff that would near enough kill us wimpy humans. if it helps i generally mix raw meat into tios dinner and feed chicken wings occassionally and he's never had a problem.

> If his experience was different, then he wouldn't be feeding his own dogs raw bones. 

every vet i know (and i know many) feed their dogs complete diets of some description, i done a mini survey last year when deciding what to feed my own pup, and most of the vets i consulted are specialists who work at glasgow university small animal hospital, including the medical vet who has a phd in nutrition. if complete food was so bad, and caused so many problems, i think most vets would feed otherwise, they love and care for their dogs as much as the rest of us.

> But then he's of the 'older generation' and has plenty of experience, and what I value even more, dog common sense!  He has the latest equipment but leads a very simple life himself, growing his own veg, very practicle but no flash car, works in jeans and t-shirt etc - his first concern is for the dog and not his pocket.

He sounds wonderful! Where does he practise? :-)

He's in Somerset and a treasure. :)

Hi Astarte, well that's what i thought. After reading lots of posts for last 5 mnths, there have been plenty on feeding raw meat, and most by posters who use it for their dogs with no trouble at all.
She still has them but not everyday coz it takes her sooooo long to eat one. She does enjoy it tho. My dogs have not eaten any dead/decaying animals tho, eeeeeeuuuuwww! They are too interested in tree branches! Thanks goodness, but I'm sure there will come a time when they do! :)

> They are too interested in tree branches!

they can be far more dangerous than bone splinters :(

occassionally as a treat will do her teeth (not definately the stuck ones but the others at least) the world of good :)

My feeling is that anything can be dangerous you have to do a risk assessment (not the in triplicate document LOL) and go with what you feel is right and worth the risk. At this rate we wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning !
Mine are raw fed,  as some of you will know and my dog is nutty about chaising tennis balls , a risk, I still use a ball for training him because it works and I have considered the risk. I know others wont agree with me but being able to find a method to help train him and improve is manners is worth it.

as for vets like doctors they have extensive training and sometimes hopefully experience but are not gods , we need to listen reseacrh and make up our own minds.

very very true furriefriends.

yes true, :)