My two young babes, Shelties, have come in to their first season.

Isla is 1 yr at end April, Bonnie 1 yr at end March. Isla started first, last Friday I checked her girlie bits and yes she was slightly swollen and a very light discharge, there had been lots of friskyness amongst all of the girls for two weeks prior and even the old chap (neutered many many years ago seemed to notice something was going on, he wasn't sure what though. )

Today I checked Bonnie and she is also swollen and discharging, Isla is now losing quite a bit, she's very clingy and quiet and just wants mummy. I'm calm with this and have no worries. Just cuddle her alot.

She had an accident in the house today, a wee and poo, un-heard of since they've become house trained, OH is flapping, he says go check with 'the girls on CD, is this normal? I said give a girl a break, she didn't fancy going out this morning and had a accident. It's a woman thing :-D.

I think he's forgotten what it was like when our GR, BC and older Sheltie had their seasons.

So, because my silly OH won't listen to me when I say there's not a problem I'd like some words of wisdom from you ladies to put his mind at rest.

We will not be getting Isla and Bonnie spayed and will manage their seasons, so I'd like to put his mind at rest that what the girls are going through is perfectly normal. Men :confused

Now, unless you asked him to clean it up I can't understand the problem, ladies do have accidents at times like these and it will sort it's self as she gets older, must be confusing for a bitch having a first season.

Well he came home from work and found the 'accident' so he had to clean it up, that was not a problem.

He's flapping that she's quiet and subdued plus the accident so he thinks there's something really wrong with her. I just think he's a twerp and should get more in touch with his female side :-D

I have often found that if there has been a housetraining accident it is when someone is coming in or in season, so I would say yes normal.  Also part of it may be the urge to mark, but I prefer to think the hormones make them less able to hold on as usual.

aww, nice that he's so concerned though! better than indifferent!

> Also part of it may be the urge to mark, but I prefer to think the hormones make them less able to hold on as usual.

That's what I told him, it's normal, she's either marking her teritory or can't hold it any longer, us women know what it feels like, when you gotta go you gotta go.

He's flapping that she's quiet and not her usual mad self and Bonnie is likely to be the same. I'm sure the silly old devil thought that they'd wing through it and he wouldn't even notice.

Just a quick check though, if Isla has been losing since last Friday when does she move in to the tasty zone for any wandering male, I'm not going to be walking her lose nor Bonnie too for about the next month to be sure. I'm not having these girls spayed so I must get my act together and keep dates.

> aww, nice that he's so concerned though! better than indifferent!

Trouble with my OH is he thinks the dogs are people! :-p

> Trouble with my OH is he thinks the dogs are people! :-p

What, you mean they're not? You can try telling that to my two:-) My girl just came into season and I think she looks so sad. I know I'm anthropomorphising but I worry she may have a sore tummy etc.

> I think she looks so sad. I know I'm anthropomorphising but I worry she may have a sore tummy etc.

I know just what you mean, Isla is looking very sorry for herself, she's sticking to me like glue, it's as though she knows something has changed and she's not the mad infant she was. She's losing quite a bit now, luckily we have tiled floors throughout downstairs and this is a dog home anyway.

I did think that I would have the most trouble with my lone male amongst 5 girls but as he's an old chap and recovering from surgery he's not been a problem.

The one that seems the most interested is my speyed 3yr old Sheltie Skye, she will not leave Isla alone and is keeping her very clean, Isla does not seem too perturbed but does sit down on her girlie bits when Skye's attention get too much. I do wonder why Skye is the one most stimulated by Isla's season.

My oldest dog when she had her first season was a nightmare, she would need cuddles all day and night, she also  need to be carried outside to go the toilet, and totally went off her food.

We had to encourage her to drink, after about 10 days she was ok just very very horny !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My other girl no problems at all except for getting bossy and horny, just like us they are all very different