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My mother had her 8 month old Bichon spayed on Wednesday, she also had a hernia repair at the same time.
She came home and slept all Wednesday. Yesterday she was very reluctant to walk and if she tried kind of moved quickly in a circle type motion and am not sure where she was trying to bite, her stomach or legs. She has a baby vest on to stop her licking her wound.
She was taken back to the vet yesterday as she seemed in pain, she had another pain injection. She has been drinking and eating small amounts but if taken outside will not walk and if she tries does this quick movement and cries.
The vet advised to encourage her to walk....at 5 o'clock today she was given her dinner and put a small piece of chicken on the floor in front of her to see if she'd move to get it....she took a step and bent beserk! she rolled on her back moving quickly and screamed and screamed, my husband who was here, quickly picked her up and held her closely untill she calmed down and stoped screaming.
She has an appointment at the vet in an hour, she is laying in her crate right now after we gave her some metacam.
Has anyone any idea what could be causing this? it's just dreadful to watch and I suppose the vet will want to see her try and walk so no doubt more pain for the poor little mite.

No one could possibly say...she may have an underlying bleed, she may have internal stitches that are bothering her, she may have an infection? who knows? Obviously some thing is wrong and only a visit to the Vet asap will find the answer, sorry, hope she's ok, Dawn
bless her i hope all went well at the vets ,how is she ? xx
She was taken to the vet who checked her all over, looked at her wound, felt her abdomen etc.
She said that these small breeds can be like this as they don't do pain very well, she said all the fast movements were the dog trying to "run away from the pain" type of thing. She gave aher another pain killing injection. Poor dog wont eat or drink tonight after her painful episde though, really seemed to frighten her. The vet said to still try and encourage her to walk.
A very difficult time for my mother as she gets so upset seeing this little dog in pain and squeeling.
Awwww bless her :( thats true about small nbreeds not coping with pain .. sending love to your mum and dog and lots of healing wishes too xx
Thank you. I'm so glad i don't have to go through this with my boy, if there was ever a reason for me not to neuter him this has been it.

Yes our toy breed squeals very easily and our vet said the same not that that is much comfort atm. keep her calm and comfy I am sure you are, if she feels safe and secure pain levels are often less and the metacam should help.If the vet hasnt said metcam is best given with food so as to not upset her tum
Hope she feels better soon

I suppose neutering a male dog is a much simpler and less serious operation than the surgery she's had, especially with a hernia repair!
By bear
Date 07.03.09 15:09 UTC
I had the same thing with one of my bitches, she was throwing herself at the walls and squealing etc so i took her back to the vets and they found the internal stitching/wound from the spay had broken down and she had to be opened up again and restitched. we had another two days of her being very unhappy then on day three she suddenly started to pick up. The vet gave my bitch an injection to knock her out for 12 hours as she couldn't cope with the pain.
It will take a little time but she will soon be back to normal. i've never experienced this before with other bitches but my vet said the same as yours about certain breeds not being good with pain. Two weeks on and my bitch has more energy than she knows what to do with and is as happy as before.
Oh my goodness! how long would we need to wait before we may suspect something may be wrong inside? she doesn't squeel when we touch her stomach or pick her up, she ignores her wound on the whole (she is wearing a baby popper vest) she is still screeching if she atampts to walk more than a step. This is the fourth day now. She seems comfortable enough when laying down and does change position often in her crate.
Wouldn't the vet have suspected something wrong inside after feeling her tummy?

If she is only acting up when she tries to walk it just may be that she is reacting to the stitches pulling and not to pain.
When Abby was spayed every time she squatted to poo she stopped before she was even 1/3 of the way into her normal position. If I recall correctly, she didn't poo until day 6. She clearly had to before then, but it was obviously too uncomfortable for her.
However, if she were my dog I would be back at the vets pronto.
She saw the vet last night and her opinion was that she was just not coping with the pain and pulling caused by walking. she checked her all over and had a feel around. It's only when she moves her back legs she squeels. Earlier today she did walk a few steps kind of bending down to the floor rather than standing and didn't screech then. It's so worrying wondering whether something is wrong or not.

My Coton bitch Honey was very much like that when she was spayed and I found it very worrying. I think she was distressed for about a week and like you I had her back at the vets because I was concerned something was wrong. In the end she was absolutely fine and just did not cope well with the discomfort she was in. Of course it's best to return to the vet if you have any concerns but hopefully your girl will soon be feeling herself again.
By St.Domingo
Date 07.03.09 21:30 UTC
Edited 07.03.09 21:36 UTC
Can she stretch out fully lengthways when lying on her back ? I'm just wondering if there is a tight stitch pulling inside ?
She can lay on her back to have her tummy rubbed and stretches out fully when laying on her front......her legs going right behind her so it doesn't seem to me that she cannot stretch
By JeanSW
Date 07.03.09 22:31 UTC

thought the same as St Domingo, but if she's stretching out comfortably, it's probably not. But something isn't right for her is it? Having toy breeds myself, I insist on having a vet that specialises. It annoys me like hell when large animal vets tend to think the little dogs are big namby pambys. They genuinely do react to pain more than my Collies. But that's just it. It
is genuine. Luckily I am always allowed extra pain relief (because I've been such a pain about it in the past!) Like one of the other posters, I would prefer a toy breed to be slightly sedated than put up with the distress.
Well i've just got back and she has been a bit brighter but had another major moment where she just went crazy in her crate and we had to quickly restrain her to calm her down.
It's allright saying they react to pain badly but how long are we meant to let her be like this? I mean she hasn't walked since she had the op! has to pee in her crate.......god knows if she is going to be able to squat to do the other!
By JeanSW
Date 07.03.09 23:36 UTC

If she's still this bad, and it's 4 days since op, I would not be a happy bunny.
I would be throwing such a tantrum at my vets surgery that they would HAVE to do something for my girl.
But we have been told twice now she is fine (not in our eyes) surely something is wrong inside for not to be able to walk? she can stand but looks uncomfortable doing so. Goodness I really don't know what to do here. Will just have to take her back :/
By JeanSW
Date 07.03.09 23:48 UTC

I agree
totally that something is wrong. She is in pain and needs a vet. But obviously not the one that you've been using. Preferably one that will listen to you. If she can't walk after 4 days and your vet isn't listening, change vets and allow your girl to be treated properly. Poor little mite.
By bear
Date 08.03.09 08:48 UTC
Didn't mean to frighten you with my experience and when i took my bitch back to the vet she picked up the internal problem straight away and re operated on her in the next hour. so i'm presuming your vet would have picked anything like i had up just by feeling the wound.
If your not happy you must get another vet to look at her ASAP.
My bitch could stretch out without it hurting by as soon as she tried to walk thats when she went made and ran round in circles.
Why don't you take her to another vet and if their happy that she's ok insist on something stronger for the pain for the next couple of days.
By JeanSW
Date 08.03.09 10:54 UTC
> if their happy that she's ok insist on something stronger for the pain for the next couple of days
Spot on!! :-)
I recently (last weekend) had a girl undergo surgery on Saturday. She left hospital Saturday teatime with antibiotics and painkillers. I was back at the hospital Sunday teatime saying she needed more pain relief. I was given morphine because they were aware toys need something extra. This
was major surgery, but a spay isn't minor.
By bear
Date 08.03.09 11:04 UTC
Yes morphine is what my bitch was given and she slept for about 10hrs,which gave me some rest as well as her also tablets for pain as well twice a day. If they feel sorry for themselves and can't rest then things will seem alot worst , as with us.
Make sure you don't force her to do too much but they do need to move around abit, i took my bitch out on the lead in the garden for the toilet. she didn't like it much but it got her moving and i'm sure she felt better once she'd relieved herself, as a full bladder and bowl would put more pressure on her wound. I'm sure after the first 4/5 days it was less pain but more a weird feeling because the stitches are tight inside so if you can get her moving just a little she will get used to the feeling and as it gets better the feeling will go anyway.
it looks very distressing but they don't understand why they feel this way,not knowing what they've had done to themselves.
I saw her today and she did seem slightly (and I mean slightly) better in herself, more awake as it were. Took her out on the grass in the garden on a lead and she walked towards me, but crouching down, she did this three times, though only about 3 feet at a time....she didn't yelp in pain though, I take it this is a good sign? she has left her stitches alone for the most part but after she has done this short "crouch walk" she tries to scratch at them with her back legs rather frantically! she doesn't yell while doing this though. She is moving 100% better than before though so we will see if there is more improvement tomorrow.
She wont wee outside, she does in in her crate at the moment and then we take out the wet stuff immediately and replace with dry. She still hasn't done a poo, she is eating and drinking ok now, although mostly chicken and tuna. I took over some puppy milk yesterday and she drank some of that too.
Anything we could give her that would help her go to the toilet? she must be constipated by now, don't really want her to be in pain because of that!
By bear
Date 09.03.09 08:33 UTC
How many days since she had had a poo? she should of gone by now really. thats a question i would ask the vet, still good news she not crying anymore.sounds like she's on the mend.
when you replace the bedding in her crate are you sterilizing it enough so she can't smell where she weed, she shouldn't really be going in the crate to do her toileting. I'd start taking her out in the garden alot more so she doesn't have chance to wee inside. You don't want her thinking her crate is a toilet.
Not sure what to give her to make her poo as i've never had that problem,sure some one else will know or ask the vet. They shouldn't charge you for a phone call.
Think she's totally on the mend. She not crying now, she walks, though crouched down and has done a wee and poo outside. I'm thinking she indeed was in a lot of pain and didn't move untill she knew she could. Hasn't peed in her crate since.
I think vets expect too much to soon sometimes.......same with doctors in hospitals!
By bear
Date 10.03.09 13:27 UTC
glad to hear she's feeling better. all dogs respond to things in different ways, the same as us humans.
very glad to hear shes on the mend :):) xx
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