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- By Whistler [gb] Date 18.02.09 11:24 UTC
Then she has made a lasting legacy.
- By Isabel Date 18.02.09 11:58 UTC

>Her comments re the Indian Lady wasnt racist I felt but ignorant that she was offending?


She may have been ignorant of the offence, and appologetic once it was explained to her, but racist they were.
She didn't actually win BB :-)  which makes her clever capitilisation of her time there even more remarkable.
- By kerrib Date 18.02.09 12:07 UTC

> Thats terrible did they do a family history with you? They did with me, mind you Im in Hampshire and hevent moved I was def. in my 30's when I strated mammograms Im 53 now so Ive been squashed for years.
>


I lived in Hampshire originally where I was put on the screening programme at Haslar and had an open appointment etc there with yearly recalls for a check up at the docs.  However we moved just over a year ago and while I was at the docs last week, I enquired as to what was happening regarding the screening as I had lived here now for over a year and not heard anything.  The practice nurse looked up my notes etc and said that I was not on their screening programme and it would be mammograms as usual from the age of 50.  Luckily I queried this given my history etc and the fact that following my scare a couple of years ago it was found as well as the increased risk due to family history I do have a condition with my breasts that increases this risk even further and she said she would raise it with the Dr and get back to me. 

I know that eventually I will need an operation to strip out all the milk ducts :-( which apparently isnt very pleasant again because of my age they would rather wait and so would I!!
- By yorkies4eva [gb] Date 18.02.09 12:13 UTC
My heart goes out to her and her family, its so sad, and it really upsets me, what hell she must be going through right now one can only imagine.
Good on the girl for raising more and more awareness,some might not agree with how she is doing it, but end of the day, she is facing a very scary next few months and whether she gets paid or whatever for being in the public eye whilst she is suffering, good on her!! She has a family to support at the end of the day!! Poor girl!! :(

How old do you have to be or should you be for your first smear, i am 21 in april and never had one..?
- By yorkies4eva [gb] Date 18.02.09 12:17 UTC
Just read that link Isobel posted, sorry, its 25 for the first time you usually go for one. While off yet then i guess, but i still worry especially with everything that goes on in this nasty world
- By Granitecitygirl [eu] Date 18.02.09 13:09 UTC
It depends on your health board.  I had my first one at 20.  They should start once you are s*xually active and be at least every 3 years from then.  You don't have to wait until you get a letter through, you can go and ask for one whenever you like.
- By Whistler [gb] Date 18.02.09 13:12 UTC
My son's partner is 23 and she has been having them all through Uni so she started around 19!
Book one up at your Doctor's they do it at the surgery in about 5 minutes with the nurse.
- By kerrib Date 18.02.09 15:03 UTC
I had my first one when I was 18 when I went to my local family planning clinic to enquire about going on the pill.  
- By Whistler [gb] Date 18.02.09 15:59 UTC
Sometimes you wish they would just all get the act together say fist test/check at 18 and go for it.
They stopped checking my MIL at about 65 she is now terminal at 72 - really sad far too late for her like Jade Goody.
- By Isabel Date 18.02.09 18:23 UTC

> It depends on your health board.  I had my first one at 20.


I believe that is the case in both Scotland and Wales.  The reason it was changed to 25 in England was to reduce the amount of unecessary treatments arising from the confusing results that young women can display.  I am not sure why that decision was reached in one part of the UK and not another though :-)
- By dexter [gb] Date 18.02.09 20:32 UTC
I think if i can remember rightly (sorry memory hurrendous:-p) i had a smear at 22 it came back abnormal, so got asked to go back for another smear and this time it came back normal, so all was well.
I then started having symptoms two years later until i was finally diagnosed, if i had waited until i was due my smear which would have been three years time i wouldn't be here now.
Where my sister lived smears there were every three years, and where i live it's every five.

My heart goes out to Jade and her boys
- By mahonc Date 19.02.09 14:50 UTC
just been for my first smear in 12 years, as seeing jade has scared me. Cant say it was it was a nice experience but its done now. and ooooowwwwwwcccchhh
- By Snoop Date 20.02.09 08:52 UTC

> I cant agree with Jack not being a "Bad lot"...anyone that attacks a child (or anyone else for that matter) with a golf club is not a good sort


Yes, assaulting a teenager like that was probably not his finest moment, but I believe we all make mistakes (sometimes huge ones) and that doesn't mean we can never again be a good person. I read today that he will not be allowed to stay with Jade after their wedding due to his curfew....so he is most definitely paying the price for his crime.
- By lab007 [ch] Date 20.02.09 09:42 UTC
I'm interested in the general view of this story. Sad as it is, isn't the fact that they are milking every penny possible out of it distasteful?

Did you see the photo of the boyfriend and his mate out buying new Armani suits (I wonder who is paying), mooning for the cameras. Says it all really.

I hope she's had the sense to have a strong pre-nupt in place.
- By Tweetiepie22586 [gb] Date 20.02.09 10:02 UTC
I was under the impression that she is leaving absolutely everything to her kids, isn't that the reasons given as to why she's involving the press so much?

I do believe that it's a horrible thing for anyone to go through, but I still believe that if she'd done something when she was told she had abnormal cells in her smear, then she might not be in this situation.  Apparently there's a lot more women getting smears done as a result of this though.
- By Snoop Date 20.02.09 10:06 UTC Edited 20.02.09 13:08 UTC
My view is that Jade is trying to make as much money as possible to leave to her boys in the last few weeks before she dies. I'm sure I'd do the same if I were her. She wants to die knowing that they will be financially catered for until they're grown men. Death is still quite taboo in our culture, but seeing as it really is something all of us will do, I don't see why it's anymore distasteful than selling your wedding pics or baby pics. If people weren't interested there would be no market for the pictures/stories. And people who don't like it don't have to look. There have been programmes where a persons death has been filmed before now. The only difference is that this time the person dying is a celebrity.

> Did you see the photo of the boyfriend and his mate out buying new Armani suits (I wonder who is paying), mooning for the cameras. Says it all really.


Poor Jack just can't win, whatever he does. He is making Jade happy in the time she has left. I have no idea who is paying for the suits as I read they have been offered alot of goods for free. Maybe Jade is paying as she's reasonably well off, and presumably she doesnt want him walking down the isle in a M&S suit!

> I hope she's had the sense to have a strong pre-nupt in place.


I read that her will is going to make sure her sons are well catered for so there isn't much chance of Jack running off with all her cash.
- By mahonc Date 20.02.09 10:08 UTC

>but I still believe that if she'd done something when she was told she had abnormal cells in her smear


from what i have read she was misdiagnosed she didnt ignore the fact
- By lab007 [ch] Date 20.02.09 10:09 UTC
Oh, I think he'll do ok out of it all. What is it they say, "you can't polish a turd"....
- By mahonc Date 20.02.09 10:11 UTC

>Oh, I think he'll do ok out of it all. What is they say, "you can't polish a turd"....


its not fair to say this when he has stood by her and as yet has not done anything to her.
- By lab007 [ch] Date 20.02.09 10:15 UTC
Didn't you see him and his mates mooning for the cameras? Yeah, he looks devastated. It's all just a media farce. Can't wait to see the wedding pics and the christening pics too (ha, don't get me started on that one).
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 20.02.09 10:24 UTC
D'ya know, if Jack makes Jade happy in the short, difficult time she has left, then I'd even donate to his Armani suits myself to be honest. I have no strong feelings either way on Jade, but am hugely touched by her story and very much admire her efforts to make any bit of money she can to ensure her boys have a better life and more opportunity than she had.

Whether she missed an appointment or was mis-diagnosed is immaterial really. I doubt any of us could say that we have never done anything that may affect our health, and that we don't all sub-conciously think "it won't happen to me". I bet the publicity she is receiving will make many people stop and think and get a smear test, so she may also save a life or two herself.

M.
- By tadog [gb] Date 20.02.09 10:35 UTC
From what I have seen of Jade Goody I cant say she is my 'type' of person. 

Jack..he is doing well out of this, people now know who he is, I didnt before all of this hit the headlines, so there must be others like me.

HOWEVER, if anyone out there has ever had a scare of death, they would do the same if it were possible, Jade knows that time has come for herself and she is doing exactly what any person would do for those they love, they would make sure that they were provided for.  I sat down last week befor I had to go into hospital for something serious, and I made sure that if I didnt come out my girls (dogs) would be seen 'alright' for the rest of there lives. 

 
- By Teri Date 20.02.09 11:23 UTC

> D'ya know, if Jack makes Jade happy in the short, difficult time she has left, then I'd even donate to his Armani suits myself to be honest. I have no strong feelings either way on Jade, but am hugely touched by her story and very much admire her efforts to make any bit of money she can to ensure her boys have a better life and more opportunity than she had.
>


Well said Lily Mc and my own feelings entirely!
- By dexter [gb] Date 20.02.09 12:47 UTC

> D'ya know, if Jack makes Jade happy in the short, difficult time she has left, then I'd even donate to his Armani suits myself to be honest. I have no strong feelings either way on Jade, but am hugely touched by her story and very much admire her efforts to make any bit of money she can to ensure her boys have a better life and more opportunity than she had.
>


Completely agree :)

> Whether she missed an appointment or was mis-diagnosed is immaterial really. I doubt any of us could say that we have never done anything that may affect our health, and that we don't all sub-conciously think "it won't happen to me". I bet the publicity she is receiving will make many people stop and think and get a smear test, so she may also save a life or two herself


Exactly, we are all human....perhaps she was scared, who knows but Jade herself. Even before i was diagnosed and i was having symptoms i didn't think oh i have cancer, especially at 25! as it could have been any number of things, it just didn't enter my head. If one good thing that has come out of this tragic situation that it will and is getting more girls to go and get themselves checked out.
- By STARRYEYES Date 20.02.09 12:53 UTC
As sad as this story  may be I feel for all the other people lying in hospital beds on chem/ radiotherapy etc  suffering the same fate but loosing thier homes and families worrying about them and having to watch thier beloved Mother/ daughter/ wife /husband/ slowly dissapear before  thier eyes , wondering where the next penny will come from and how they will cope financially when they have gone.
I am sorry but I think its awful for these families to have to watch Jade rake in as much cash as she can , lets face it she isnt short of money and I am sure she has insurances in place for when she has gone.
Plus just been on the news they are letting her boyfriend stay for her wedding night instead of him being locked up again for beating a bloke up with a club.
How many other people are in the nick for this or that who arent even allowed to attend thier mothers/childrens funerals or be at the bedside of thier dying relative (they are in prison for a reason) I dont understand this ...I am sorry
- By dexter [gb] Date 20.02.09 12:53 UTC
I saw on the Sky news earlier that it has been lifted until 3pm the following day :) so he can :)
- By Teri Date 20.02.09 13:09 UTC

> As sad as this story  may be I feel for all the other people lying in hospital beds on chem/ radiotherapy etc  suffering the same fate but loosing thier homes and families worrying about them and having to watch thier beloved Mother/ daughter/ wife /husband/ slowly dissapear before  thier eyes , wondering where the next penny will come from and how they will cope financially when they have gone.


I agree Roni, it must be difficult, but Jade is a celebrity (of whatever listing) and therefore able to do things this way and so I don't blame her for it.  I certainly don't envy her position, celebrity or not, but can see why she's taking advantage of what little may make a difference to her family - she's going to die, very soon, with no cast iron reassurances of how her boys will cope without her.  If having an increased bank balance gives even a minor lift to her enormous worries then so be it.

Many prisoners are allowed out for family bereavements and I'm sure I've read of conjugal visits to those who married while in prison also.  In different circumstances, Jade not being terminally ill, perhaps she would have been allowed to spend the night with him in prison rather than him being allowed out (or in those circumstances the wedding would not have been planned).  I don't know, but having seen very upsetting photos of her on the front of several newspapers recently I don't think she has two months left so I'm pleased that the Prison Service is allowing this for Jade's sake - not Jack's. 
- By LJS Date 20.02.09 13:11 UTC Edited 20.02.09 13:21 UTC
As sad as this story  may be I feel for all the other people lying in hospital beds on chem/ radiotherapy etc  suffering the same fate but loosing thier homes and families worrying about them and having to watch thier beloved Mother/ daughter/ wife /husband/ slowly dissapear before  thier eyes , wondering where the next penny will come from and how they will cope financially when they have gone.
I am sorry but I think its awful for these families to have to watch Jade rake in as much cash as she can , lets face it she isnt short of money and I am sure she has insurances in place for when she has gone.
Plus just been on the news they are letting her boyfriend stay for her wedding night instead of him being locked up again for beating a bloke up with a club.
How many other people are in the nick for this or that who arent even allowed to attend thier mothers/childrens funerals or be at the bedside of thier dying relative (they are in prison for a reason) I dont understand this ...I am sorry


I am in total agreement with you on this.

I find it incredible as well as Jack Straw has intervened on this and the PM has made comments publically about it as well. Shouldn't they have more important matters to deal with as sad as her plight is this level of Government intervention is just wrong, just because she is a 'celeb' why should exceptions be made.
- By STARRYEYES Date 20.02.09 13:32 UTC
country in recession and the news of Jack was second to be mentioned...unbelievable
- By lab007 [ch] Date 20.02.09 13:40 UTC
This whole sorry episode is so lacking in dignity it's shameful.

For this thug to gain out of this, and there's no way he isn't going to, is disgusting. For Max Clifford (and the media) to do the same, equally so. Par for the course really. Easy to make money out of tabloid-buying morons.

I guess it just proves there are some things money can't buy. Class for one.
- By Teri Date 20.02.09 13:42 UTC

> I guess it just proves there are some things money can't buy. Class for one.


Long life for another  :(
- By annee [gb] Date 20.02.09 14:20 UTC
I too think the whole thing is so lacking in dignity its shameful...it wasn't that long ago that Max Clifford was slagging Jade off regarding the Big Brother incident...amazing that he now appears to be her new best friend.....Money Money Money its a rich mans world !
- By mahonc Date 20.02.09 14:25 UTC
i agree that the whole thing in some eyes can be a bit distasteful, however we do need to remember a young girl is dying and she is doing what she can for her sons future, and i dont think anyone on here wouldnt do what they can for their childrens future.
the only thing i worry about is the children when they are old enough to understand, how will they feel seeing mum suffering on t.v for them. i hope they cope as well as jade has with her terrible situation.
- By Snoop Date 20.02.09 14:31 UTC
I agree that we shouldn't forget the people who are dying who aren't in a position to do what Jade is doing. I still don't blame her for doing whatever she can though.

> How many other people are in the nick for this or that who arent even allowed to attend thier mothers/childrens funerals or be at the bedside of thier dying relative (they are in prison for a reason) I dont understand this ...I am sorry


He's not in prison - he just has a curfew. Some prisoners are allowed to visit dying relatives and attend funerals. Some prisoners are even allowed home for the weekends! So I think relaxing Jack's curfew (for 1 night) isn't really a biggie.
- By Teri Date 20.02.09 14:32 UTC
Hi annee

> I too think the whole thing is so lacking in dignity its shameful...


there's precious little I wouldn't do in her position to make provision for my children.  In fact, within the law, there's nothing I can think of I wouldn't do.  That's IMO how any loving parents feel - their children come first, regardless of personal cost and God help this young woman. 

None of us can predict what lies ahead, however Jade and every other dear soul knowing they have a limited period of time and experiencing the indignities that go with this dreadful disease regardless of financial position have enough on their plates without being judged by anyone  :(

> amazing that he now appears to be her new best friend.....Money Money Money its a rich mans world !


I agree with you re Max Clifford - but that's his business, making money out of making people money.
- By Granitecitygirl [eu] Date 20.02.09 14:32 UTC
It's a very sad situation all round :-(  I think that while many may feel it is distateful, Jade is being very brave.  Reality TV is quite possibly the only thing that Jade has found success with in life, it made her feel like a somebody which is why she has always gone back to it time and again, she is doing what she knows to provide for her boys.  I hope that the money she raises for her boys is tied up so tight in trust that no-one else can get to it.
- By Teri Date 20.02.09 14:34 UTC

> I hope that the money she raises for her boys is tied up so tight in trust that no-one else can get to it


Please God it will be.
- By Carla Date 20.02.09 14:35 UTC
I agree entirely. Smacks of politcal popularity scoring to me. Its ridiculous. bloody government should get on with some real work.
- By Sue H Date 20.02.09 14:39 UTC
Jade isn't really my type of person either, i personally think she is a racist bully....however, i do have a degree of sympathy for her condition right now, she is only young & will be leaving 2 children behind. Jack is another kettle of fish...as soon as i heard she was dying, i said the next thing would be marriage! Lo behold, apparently Jack asked her to marry him as soon as he heard the news, wonder why.....:) Even if Jade makes sure all her money is left to the kids, he will walk away from this with a few quid....i can see the headlines now.....'my life with Jade'...watch this space! He will be known as Jade's hubby instead of the lowlife idiot that he really is.      
- By Granitecitygirl [eu] Date 20.02.09 14:45 UTC
I would like to think that Jade has the public on her and her kids side.  If Jack were to start selling his story after she's gone I would hope the press and people would treat him with the contempt he deserved.  It's early days yet - it is expected for someone to go slightly off the rails when grieving but I would like to think we would be able to tell if he really is in emotional turmoil or just milking it.
- By lab007 [ch] Date 20.02.09 14:52 UTC
I would say that it's 'when' and not 'if' he sells his story.

As for press/people treating him with contempt he deserveres, don't hold your breath. This parasite will make a fortune and there are millions in the UK unfortunately that will lap up every page of it.

Her 'estate is going into his name for 7 years'.......... didn't see that one coming!!

What a shambles.
- By Snoop Date 20.02.09 15:15 UTC

> Even if Jade makes sure all her money is left to the kids, he will walk away from this with a few quid....i can see the headlines now.....'my life with Jade'...watch this space! He will be known as Jade's hubby instead of the lowlife idiot that he really is.


I bet Jade would be the first one to encourage him to sell his story. There are far more dubious ways to earn money IMO.
- By Snoop Date 20.02.09 15:18 UTC

> there are millions in the UK unfortunately that will lap up every page of it.
>


Yes, it'll be lapped up by all the people who want tut tut at his every move, and say how they knew he was no good from the start.
- By Isabel Date 20.02.09 15:30 UTC

> How many other people are in the nick for this or that who arent even allowed to attend thier mothers/childrens funerals or be at the bedside of thier dying relative


Not many I don't think.  I think it is fairly normal for them to have compassionate leave even if accompanied.  I forget which one is which but I seem to remember the Kray twin being allowed to attend his brothers funeral with an escort and they murdered folk.
- By Isabel Date 20.02.09 15:35 UTC

> For this thug to gain out of this, and there's no way he isn't going to, is disgusting. For Max Clifford (and the media) to do the same, equally so.


You don't have to buy the Sun or Heat magazine :-) and they are not taking anything away from anyone else, infact the publicity has been extremely influential in young women choosing to health screen.  So two wins, no losses :-)  In fact three wins as I understand the trust being fed with this money is for the education of those two boys.
- By Teri Date 20.02.09 15:38 UTC

> I forget which one is which but I seem to remember the Kray twin being allowed to attend his brothers funeral with an escort and they murdered folk.


Yes, Ronnie was allowed to go to Reg's funeral.

Wasn't Myra Hindley reported to be 'out and about' regularly also - now she, IMO, shouldn't have seen daylight but her crimes were considerably worse than those of Jade's partner and so it would seem the prison system is not as cut and dried as some would believe (or wish).
- By huskypup [us] Date 20.02.09 16:03 UTC
Yes, it is not uncommon for the rules to be relaxed in compassionate circumstances and no matter what you think of Jade, you certainly cannot argue that it's not compassionate. 

I fall into the 'not a fan' of Jade camp.  She is however, the richest BB contestent, even more remarkable given that she did not win it.  I do think that she is street sharp and would not let anyone walk all over her.  I do not doubt her affection for Tweedy but I certainly doubt his for her.  In these circumstances there is no choice but to indulge her.  The route she has taken would not be for everybody but at least some good has come of out of it. 

I will not be rushing out to buy OK or Heat to see the wedding photos but I hope Jade has the strength to enjoy her day and indeed her last few weeks/months of life. :)
- By Teri Date 20.02.09 16:11 UTC

> I will not be rushing out to buy OK or Heat to see the wedding photos but I hope Jade has the strength to enjoy her day and indeed her last few weeks/months of life


Ditto
- By Whistler [gb] Date 20.02.09 16:58 UTC
And Ditto here, I think he's a snake, she is a fighter and she is getting her day as a bride which is good.
I dont think any the less of her for making as much as she can for her boys. I think (and please dont jump down my throat) that money does not equal class, or equal the merits of a "good family back ground" but its what Jade thinks is important for her children.
Unless, she has a good role model for them in the future life all the money in the world will not mean that they know the value of a "good education".
Lets face it Eton would not have them. Mind you I would never with all the money in then world, have sent mine to Eton viewing what they churn out. But a good education can only do so much and without a settled home environment its throwing money out the window.
What those children will need is strong role models and a safe and happy family, where are they going to find that? with a wanabee football agent? and a father that is a bit, well absent? Money is not everything, but for Jade I suspect it meant success.
We have become a society that measures success on the money we earn and the places we are seen and photgraphed, or by being "seen" in the right nplaces, bring out a book, a perfume a fly on the wall tv series your loaded by your early twenties and a has been by 28!! what an example.

If it makes her happy good but I fear for those children I really do.
- By Isabel Date 20.02.09 18:04 UTC

> and a father that is a bit, well absent?


Why do you think that?  From what I have read he has always had regular visits and the children have been staying with him whilst she has been in hospital.  I think he has just chosen not to appear in the columns.  I don't know what extended family support he may have.
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