Came across this, in todays newspaper.

I have my own views on this matter, and just wanted to see what everyone else thinks after reading it.
Thanks for taking the time. Lesley

Girl attacked by dog on Fife street

Parents Angela and Bobby Barrett with daughter Lucy.


By Craig Smith
A THREE-YEAR-OLD Kirkcaldy girl needed hospital treatment after being badly bitten by a dog, it has emerged.

Lucy Barrett suffered deep cuts and bruises to her hand after it was seized by a cross Staffordshire bull terrier in High Street, Kirkcaldy, on Tuesday.

It is understood Lucy had been on a shopping trip with her mother Angela and five-year-old brother Ross and had reached out to pet the dog, which was tied up outside Boots the Chemist.

After this week's incident, Lucy's father Bobby yesterday urged owners to muzzle their dog if they thought there was even the slightest chance it could harm a child.

"It could've been a lot worse. Lucy has got a dog at home so she just went up to clap this dog outside the shop and it just grabbed her and kept a hold of her hand."

Mr Barrett said, "When the dog finally let go, there was quite a lot of blood and you could see the teeth marks on her palm.

"Personally, if it was up to me, the dog would be put down but the police said it was the first time it had been reported to them.

"Next time it could be a bairn's face or anything--you just don't want to think about it."

Mr Barrett said Ross had tried to pat the dog before Lucy was bitten, but his mother had told him not to.

After initial treatment at Boots, Lucy was taken to Victoria Hospital for further treatment and was later sent home, where she was recovering yesterday.

"The doctors said they couldn't dress the wounds but she was given antibiotics and we'll just have to keep an eye on it," Mr Barrett added.

"Lucy was very upset and she hasn't been sleeping very well since it happened."

It is understood the dog's owner was in the shop at the time.

The latest case comes to light days after a baby boy was killed by two dogs--one of which was described as a Staffordshire bull terrier--in south Wales.

Three-and-half-month-old Jaden Mack, who had been staying at his grandmother's house, was savaged to death by the terrier and a Jack Russell last Saturday.

His death sparked calls for an urgent review of the Dangerous Dogs Act, introduced in 1991 after a series of attacks on children.

Fife Police confirmed a 27-year-old man had been charged with an offence under the Dangerous Dogs Act and is expected to appear at the sheriff court at a later date.

Never ever ever let your child pat a strange dog without asking the owner first! I also don't like dogs tied up outside shops but appreciate that some owners have to. Education is the key here.

That was my first thought, it says that the mother told her son not to touch the dog yet allowed the daughter to pet it!!! Doesn't make any sense!  I thought most people new not to clap strange dogs, it show this is not the case!

Thanks for your reply.

>It is understood Lucy had been on a shopping trip with her mother Angela and five-year-old brother Ross and had reached out to pet the dog, which was tied up outside Boots the Chemist.

When will parents teach thier kids to keep thier hands to thierselfs?????
People take the time to teach thier kids that putting your hand in a fire will burn it, stepping in front of a car can get you hurt/killed, but they seem to think it's OK for thier kids to shove thier hands in the faces of other peoples dogs - why?
So many bites happen like this and it is completely avoidable.

>Lucy's father Bobby yesterday urged owners to muzzle their dog if they thought there was even the slightest chance it could harm a child.

I would urge parents to keep thier children's hands out of dogs faces. Dogs are not toys for every childs amusement and it's about time that was taught to children weather the parents own a dog or not, it seems to me to be basic common semse. I don't drive or own a car but I teach my children road safety.

The latest case comes to light days after a baby boy was killed by two dogs--one of which was described as a Staffordshire bull terrier--in south Wales.

I also do not understand why they would try and compare a girl being bitten on the hand to the poor baby that was killed.

At the end of the day the mother han't allowed her son to pet the dog so why allow the girl to?

Totally agree that children should never be allowed to stroke a dog without the owners permission and the parents should have been more aware!!!

I hate dogs being tied up outside shops, not only that it would be so easy for someone to steal them!!

I guess that it was part parents fault and the owner also has to take some responsibility for this as surely they should have muzzled the dog?? 

It is impossible to compare this with the little baby that was killed.

Well as much as I have drilled into my childrens heads not to touch dogs that do not know them and they know not too, Im fairly certain if I left any of my dogs tied up outside a shop (not that I ever would) I wouldnt come back out to be greeted with a childs hand in its mouth.

The dog should of been muzzled.

> Im fairly certain if I left any of my dogs tied up outside a shop (not that I ever would) I wouldnt come back out to be greeted with a childs hand in its mouth.
>

Same here.  I think the fact that she told one child suggests she did not intend it to happen with the other either.  It suggests to me this was probably accidental, one child slipped the leash for a moment.  Children will be children.

I agree Isabel, I know you should have eyes at the back of your head but in defense of the mother she may have
been speaking to her son and the little girl either ignored what was said or put her hand out anyway. Kids have minds of their own even with sensible parents. Either way it was awful for all concerned and thank god itwasn't worse.
I dont like seeing dogs left outside places, there is a risk even in the most wellbehaved dog not just biting but stealing as well. I think without knowing the dog and the full situation it is difficult for us to judge.
Lets hope that for the dogs protection too it will be muzzled in the future.
I am fairly sure my dogs would be fine if someone petted them with or without me but I still wouldn't leave them I find it hard enough leaving them in the car and then only for extremly short times ie post box or similar

I'm afraid if you are going to tie yourdog up in a very public place like outside a shop then you must realise there is bound to be some child who manages to get to pet it.  So if there is any chance the dog could bite it should be muzzled or not left there to perhaps injure someone, get stolen itself or end up being destroyed because of its actions.
We should also realise when a dog is tied up outside a busy shop, its owner walks off and leaves it, strange people are rushing around, a lot of noise and trolleys any dog could get stressed and act out of character.

sorry but i wouldnt ever leave any of my dogs tied up and go into a shop !!!!
i have young children and never let them pet a dog inless owner is there but it takes no time at all for a child to do it !!!
at the end of the day its the dog owners resposablty for his/her dog !!! so IMO dogs left unatended should be muzzled .

> i have young children and never let them pet a dog inless owner is there

That is wise advise for any parent but I don't believe dogs should be muzzled unless they have a suspect temperament.  It is not normal behaviour to bite a child.  My dog has been clapped on the head by hundreds of children, not all with permission, but has never show the least objection even when the attention has been clumsy. She loves children and treats them with the same gentle demeanor as she did with her own pups. If your dog is likely to bite it should be wearing a muzzle anyway as this is also likely to happen when walking in a busy street with the owner present.

yes isabel i agree to some of that but ...like you would never leave a dog with a baby ....at the end of the day a dog is a dog and you just never know what could happen .....
isnt that being a resonserble dog owner ??????:)

> ...like you would never leave a dog with a baby ....

Probably not.  I don't think she would harm it deliberately but she might do something daft like sit on it and there would be no benefit from doing it that I could see.  I did however, when she was younger, take her to the shop with me on a regular basis as we did both gain some benefit from that and I expect I shall with any future dogs that have the temperament for it.

Whitelilly said

>> i have young children and never let them pet a dog inless owner is there

and Isabel replied

> That is wise advise for any parent but I don't believe dogs should be muzzled unless they have a suspect temperament. It is not normal behaviour to bite a child

I agree entirely with both of these comments.  My dogs are never left outside shops etc but not because I believe they would be unsafe towards children or ayone else (different argument, well covered previously) however I would not expect my dogs to EVER bite someone in normal circumstances but couldn't *guarantee* the same with provocation or cruelty shown to them for example.

I always discouraged my own child and her friends from approaching dogs on or off lead, tied up or walking calmy with their owners.  I ensured they always asked permission to pat a dog and also, importantly, waited for said permission to be given.   But some children do just out of the blue lurch towards dogs.

I would not consider muzzling a perfectly amiable dog on the basis that a child may approach it with or without permission - if however a dog is suspected of being afraid or intolerant of approaches by strangers of any size then that dog should IMO be kept clear of situations where such contact may occur and when that is not possible then a muzzle could be used.

Completely the childs parents fault, who let's their child near a strange dog? Isn't that just drilled into us all from birth? I've always been surrounded by dogs even as an adult I wouldn't stroke a strange dog.

Don't blame the dog one little bit, she just went up to clap this dog outside the shop is that some sort of Scottish saying i.e stroke it, or did she clap at it? Only bit I didn't understand.

Nethertheless, the mother was not doing her job as a parent.

Hi Carrington,

yes 'clap' the dog means the same as 'pat' or 'stroke' to us highlanders ;)

Think the whole thing is newspaper hype. If the hospital did not dress 'the wounds' one can bet that was because there weren't any, possible just a scratch. Think this is a newspaper trying to climb on a non existent band wagon because it seems in the sad case of the baby that was killed, from the inquest, that there was far more to that than meets the eye, can you imagine someone sleeping in a chair in a room when two dogs are supposed to have savage a baby without waking, I find it very hard to comprehend.

Thank you Teri. :-) I learn something new every day.

> If the hospital did not dress 'the wounds' one can bet that was because there weren't any, possible just a scratch

Not necessarily - a young lad I know very well was very seriously stabbed recently, with multiple wounds, and the hospital neither dressed nor stitched them.  Even after over a week in hospital he was allowed home without the most serious two wounds being remotely healed over although they required daily care and dressings thereafter.

That said were there more serious injuries to this child by the dog I don't doubt her parents would have made that clear to the media.

I also agree that parents should teach their children not to touch any dog without the owners permisson and that dogs are not cuddley toys. this was just an accident and wouldnt normally make the news but in whats happened over the last couple of weeks the media and some of the public will be repoting evey incident including staffs and jack russells .:-(

Even if a dog is not liable to bite it could still inflict damage on a small child by either jumping up and scratching or knocking it over.  I would not leave my dog unattended and out of sight.  I had a woman muttering under her breathe when I had to pick up my granddaughter from school with my grandson in the pushchair and a dog to walk all at the same time because I was going out later and hubby hadn't arrived home.  I took the dog across the playground and got the dirtiest look from her.  There was no sign to say no dogs and I had no intention of tying her up to the fence like another parent had done. 

I have a dallie, my nephew a staffie, we walk them together. Quite rightly people often advise their children not to touch the staffie,  as "you don't know him. Why don't you cuddle the dalmatian".. ???????Hello, he is twice as big, has just as many teeth, and is much bouncier. If nothing else his tail could inflict a black eye...It actually really scares me. I have to get quite assertive..

Hope little girl is ok too.

Once when i was walking my old rottie a 2 or 3 year old child rushed towards her and flung her arms around her neck the mother just stood there yapping with someone else! Luckily my rottie had a good temperament and although she was a little spooked by being grabbed suddenly she just sat down with a big grin, i tried to tell the child she shouldnt touch strange dogs and she started crying and her mum glared at me as if i was mean! I also used to have a collie who had a good temperament with us but really disliked children he would mostly try and avoid them but he probably would bite if he was left tied up outside a shop and we often used to muzzle him if we were going to anywhere busy just incase a child did try to touch him. My current dogs have good temperaments and like children but i know if a strange child tried to grab hold of them without warning some of them would probably give a nip. I would never leave any dog outside a shop unattended no matter how sure i was of its temperament but i do think parents should make sure thier child doesnt touch a strange dog.

I know this has been discussed before - I remember telling about my setter who was hugged around his middle by a little girl who asked if she could stroke him - the look of surprise on his face was a picture!  The trouble with a lot of parents is that they are not dog owners themselves and I know even if you have kept dogs - like my two setters who were so gentle, until you keep a 'real' dog like my collie then you don't know how to treat dogs.  Having my little wsd has been a real eye-opener for me and my grandchildren are now being brought up with a healthy respect for dogs.  Even my husband forgets sometimes and swamps her with stroking and triggers her natural defensive actions.  I know this is another thing down to parental responsiblity but perhaps it could always be a topic covered in school as well.  After all they think that parents can't give sex education so how can they all be expected to know how to treat dogs?  

Ok, so in an ideal world the child shouldnt have reached out to pet the dog BUT, no dog should respond in that way. If it does it shouldnt be out, especially without a muzzle.
Children often have their arms out when being pushed in a buggy, what if, on another occasion the dog walked past and was accidently brushed by a child hand???

> Children often have their arms out when being pushed in a buggy, what if, on another occasion the dog walked past and was accidently brushed by a child hand???

The dog probably wouldn't have bitten under that circumstance, the dog most likey bit the girl in question as she moved towards it, staring at it, with hand outstretched- a sure-fire way to get bitten by a strange dog that wants nothing to do with you.
My last dog would bite men if they put thier hands towards him to pet him (he was never left outside alone and I insisted people not pet him - but you'd be suprised at the amount of people who think they know your dog better than you do and will argue 'no, he'll be fine' ) , but I could walk him past people with no problem and he wouldn't bite because somebody brushed past him. Most dogs know the difference with being brushed past and somebody deliberatley invading it's space with the intention of touching them.

Parents should know that children stick thier hands out at things and yes, little tots in buggys do waft thier hands out, but most parents are able to keep thier childrens hands safe. Most parents can walk a tot in a buggy past a busy road without getting thier tots hands hit by passing traffic - surely it's just as simple to keep your tots hands away from dogs?? I managed it, so do countless other parents.
I do agree that dogs should not be left tied up, it's shocking the amount of dog owners that think they can read your dogs body language and think that a very qiuet dog is calm & friendly (as opposed to trying to elicit advances from looming strangers), let alone the cruel things children do to dogs. I would never leave a dog tied up by it self for his own safety.

For me, both adults are at fault here.

1) parent of child fro allowing her to pet a strange dog, not to mention it being alone and tied up

2) owner of said dog, for leaving it unattended and tied up in a public place..where something like this is likely to happen.

I think at the end of the day, for children and dogs to start living harmoniously, adults need to start using common sense and preventing these events, parents need to start being alert to the things that may happen, as do dog owners.

Like I said, I have always told my kids not to touch strange dogs and I wouldnt leave my dog alone tied outside a shop....if I did have too like some people do and I had even the slightest doubt in their temprament towards other people/dogs, they would be muzzled.

When i had my children, I recieved all sorts of safety and prevention leaflets...maybe the government should step up and include one about the dangers that could happen between children and dogs, long shot i know but something needs to start being done and soon.

> maybe the government should step up and include one about the dangers that could happen between children and dogs, long shot i know but something needs to start being done and soon.

That would be an idea :)

maybe the government should step up and include one about the dangers that could happen between children and dogs, long shot i know but something needs to start being done and soon.



Do you know I'm not being sarcastic at all :-) Well maybe a little :-D it's a genuinely good and well meant comment, but don't you all think it's a disgrace that the government are being thought of here to even be needing to tell future parents something that most of us just had told to us by our own parents. Parenting is just pass the buck constantly, I guess they would need to add vital and simple survival information into Playstation, XBox and Gamecube games, I feel sorry for the government at times this being one of them, they have a whole country to run (and most of us complain about that job) and even more sorry for the state of some parenting, it shouldn't be the governments job.

This is all IMO going back to the fact that kids are having kids are having kids therefore no parenting skills and no common sense.

What were the parents thinking--especially the father!!!!! I feel so sorry for the dog and owner--but I have to say that I never, ever, take my dog shopping unless he can come in with me. I wouldn't dream of leaving him outside a shop under any circumstances. He either stays at home or he is in a car cage (or if my son isn't looking, he can sit on the seat).

> but don't you all think it's a disgrace that the government are being thought of here to even be needing to tell future parents something that most of us just had told to us by our own parents.

Very true Carrington, it's just that far too many people don't appear to be able to think for thierselfs, but your right it isn't the governments fault.

> This is all IMO going back to the fact that kids are having kids are having kids therefore no parenting skills and no common sense.

Very true. I think that the recent post on one of the other boards was right - sadly 'common sense' has died :(

It is terrible and yet again a breed has been mentioned, i sometimes just wish they said a 'dog' bit a child.

It is children having children thats why the worlds going to pot! But i think it would be a good thing to bring something into schools about safety around dogs, I for one would like to do it, take my pooches in, have a little discussion about it with a roleplay. Then maybe a video, the kids can pet the dog and then they can design posters about dog safety and paint pictures of my dog which i can take home to stick on the fridge. But there would have to be consent forms like sex ed, and i can imagine it being the scruffy kids whose parents cant be arsed to fill on the form lose out and i imagine there more at risk, cause' there parents cant be arsed to teach them these things or raise a dog properly. Think i would add a little about dog husbandry and how you look after a dog and a dogs needs to be happy.

The dog shouldnt be left outside if it had a questionable temperament, people kids and adults will do these things so its not worth the risk. Also how far away can a 3 year old get away from its mother to be bitten when her brother was told not too. I think the parenting might be questioned as well as the temperament of the dog. And i wonder what exactly they propose the ammendment to be on the DDA? not a clue i bet.

Louise

I think the blue cross already have a scheme going with taking dogs into schools, im not sure how widespread it is though.

You don't have to take a dog into school to educate - there's lots of ways to promote discussion, eg stories, 'Blue dog' DVD  Encouraging children to pat a dog is not the object - it is to stop them doing it that is the problem.  Mind you if I took mine into school she would have most of the kids pretty wary within a few minutes because her movements are so fast and jumpy.  Most children are a little frightened of her.  I have taught the little girl next door what to do and she has Meg sitting nicely in no time.  However her brother still keeps clear.  Meg bounces up to a lot of local children so it gives me a chance to tell them what to do if she ever approaches them off the lead at a hundred miles an hour 'shocked'

Sorry meant to preview that - pressed the wrong button.  I was trying to find the horrified face. 

> the kids can pet the dog

Louise, what are you like?? Do you mean take your new rescue rottie cross , without a temperament assesment by an expert...into a school. The give them all the benefit of your experience... then let them pet the dog and all this without training or insurance.

Talk about 'flying by the seat of your pants'.

Jeese give me some credit!

No i dont mean take my new rescue Rio into a school without being temperament tested! Obviously if i was to do it id take a dog in with an excellent temperament like the PAT dogs or an assistance dog that has been trained for the situation. Yes i would love to with my own but tbh my rio isnt right for it neither is my ruby,  mason could be trained up for it but im not suggesting that im going to, but when i have transport im thinking of getting him PAT tested and trained. But thats beside the point. I would like to do it with a dog that HAS been trained for it with insurance etc, i suppose you dont need a dog there but it would be good too have one there. Kids learn with fun

Oh and i dont mean to encourage them to pat the dog i meant in the roleplay

''excuse me mr pwease can i stwoke your doggy?'' no he'll eat you or yes your welcome to pat pat

> ''excuse me mr pwease can i stwoke your doggy?'' no he'll eat you or yes your welcome to pat pat

Lol  :-)

You are funny Louise.

LOL!   Reminds me of using the blue dog CD with my granddaughter - the pictures are pretty awful on it and the sound, but the general idea is good.  However my granddaughter soon worked out which scenario got the dog to growl and loved getting the figures into trouble!!!

I gotta say its hard in todays sociaty that we live in because theirs so many totally stupid people out their that maybe the only answer is for parents to be forced into taking their kids out in straight jackets ,
oh and i just met a bunch of screaming banchies thu our park that of course my big rottie barked and had a growl at but good god their behaviour was so pathitic that even i told them to stut up your scaring my dog,
its people thats the problem not the dogs ,
i was born into a family that had a very old dog she was called tiny and i from the age of 3 remeber being told never touch her cos she was blind with old age and not a playful pup, i learned to live with her and she with me she gave me no trouble and i didnt give her none i respected her at a young age and was made to understand that dogs can be pets but this dog had been in our family for 17 years and i was the baby of 3, so i got on ok with tiny ,
it makes me so MAD wen a child is bitten by a dog or worse killed and then the dog gets murdered all because of idiot people, i mean PLZ WHO LEAVES A 14 WEEK OLD BABY WITH 2 TERRIER BREED DOGS GOOD WELL TRAINED DOGS OR NOT!  was a fact that this granny had only had the staff for a year or less because she'd had a peeping tom,
and who leaves a baby on the settee asleep on a sofa upstairs in a pub where 2 full grown rotties who gaurd their home are running around,
and WHO brings in from the garden (where the dogs normaley kept) on a *issed up new years eve night when the womans off her faCE on booze canabis and perscription drugs , oh yes lets bring in the PIT BULL TERRIER after all we'r all merry its new year eve and the KIDS are having fun, sadly it wernt much fun for poor Ellie,
AND WHO leaves a 13 yeear old to babysit your baby with a rottie they aint long had how can that child no that by bouncing that baby at the dog whos excited and longing looking to have fun that baby then get renched from the childs hads,
ALL THESE AND MORE IS WHY I AM NOT MUCH OF A PEOPLE PERSON THEIRS JUST TO MANY FOOLS AROUND AND ITS THE DOGS THAT SUFFER ,
AND THEIR VICTIMS , I GOT NO TIME FOR THE GRIEVING PARENTS AND PEOPLE WHO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN, THEY GOT NO SENSE.

:-( I hope your rottweiler wears a muzzle.  There is just one part of your post that I agree with.  People certainly can be stupid.

> I GOT NO TIME FOR THE GRIEVING PARENTS AND PEOPLE WHO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN, THEY GOT NO SENSE.

Oh dear,

As it was once said, " Let he that is without sin cast the first stone."

And I'm not even a believer....but I am at least humane.

Mmmmmm that was a bit of an eye opener!!!!!

When I posted my first ad with the story, I had my own feelings, which have since changed since reading other peoples view, the little girl may have been ahead of her mother and didnt hear her say to her brother not to touch, I do believe there was faults on both sides, re the parents and the dog owner.

As many of you have said its all about education, which may have stopped this bite, maybe not though.

At the end of the day, this little girl has learnt a lesson and it was the hard way, which she will have marks to show for it.

It has been very interesting reading everyones replies, which has made me more aware of things and to look at things differently, lets hope that rubs off on others :-)

IM SORRY TO SOUND HARSH , but its the stupidity of the parents or who evers in charge of the animal (im not saying all their are some crazy people out their that train their dogs to be nasty)
but a dog ANY DOG well trained or not is an unpredictable animal your NEVER gonna REALLY KNOWwhat he/shes thinkingWHY OH WHY would you take the chance of leaving a baby with them ,
and NO my Rottie does not wear a muzzle TELL ME ONE REASON WHY HE SHOULD? IV had him since he was 9 weeks old my youngest child is 11 years old and they have been brought up together but my dog knows where he stands in our pack order,
and although he barked a growled at this bunch of hoodies screaming i had him on a lead and a firm hold unless you see the behaviour of some of these gangs i have walked past then you will not understand my dogs are used to noise (god knows theirs enough around here)but tonite was bad he senesed somthing was wrong and was right, on my way back at the same spot police were their sirens on the asked me if i'd seen them i pointed them in their direction , so thats the sort of area i sadly live in no doubt i'll hear of yet another pointless stabbing or shoting by morning,
my boy does not even bark at the door knocking thats how dosial he is but tonight was differant somethings gone on out side is what im saying my boy just sensed it,

and after all that said , if i were to have a baby of my own now (not that im about to do that)
but if by some mirical i had a baby i would then be looking to rehome my dog as i would not want him around my baby (EVEN THO I KNOW HIS A GENTAL GIANT)
I STILL WOULDNT TAKE THAT CHANCE!
its not worth the risk, (good job i cant have any more babys anyhow ,)

> and NO my Rottie does not wear a muzzle TELL ME ONE REASON WHY HE SHOULD?

No dog should be barking and growling at people, its a behaviour that should not be acceptable from any dog but especially one as large & powerfull as a Rottie.  If he can not 'stand down' on your command (he shouldn't get to that stage anyway if he knows 'his place' in the pack), then, IMO, he needs a muzzle untill he can. He should be stable enough to not react if somebody suddenly ran past you from behind shouting & screaming, or ran past you noisily out of an alley-way etc.. There is no reason why he should be barking & growling at a rowdy group you are walking past.

IMO, the bigger/more powerfull the dog, the higher the level of training/control should be, as such any behaviour that is even slightly not spot-on should be addressed IMMEDIATELY.

This is a dog you say you would have to rehome if you had a baby - if you couldn't trust him with your own flesh & blood, his barking & growling at strangers should be a clear warning sign to you that he is an accident waiting to happen unless you get complete control over him :(

i would stress you hear wot im saying and isn't it amazing that you can read so much into wot iv said and then twist it into your own words,
my dog as it happens did stand down when i told him he was in perfect order also wen the police came just 5 minutes ago and like i said sadly theirs been a fatal stabbing of yet another youth on our streets today nearly outside my door, where my own 21 year old son has to walk to come home,
and my boy was barking at the boys that where fleeing the situation , i must now go to peckham police station tommorrow to to look at pics of thugs to see if i can identify any who ran past us tonitght i think my dog was right tonight he new that something was wrong with these kids , police have just left my house what more can i say bet they wished my dog had kept hold of the yob that just stabbed a13 yr old to death not 20 ft from my door,

oh sorry and i would NEVER TRUST ANY DOG AT ANY TIME ANY WHERE NO MATER HOW GOOD THEY ARE TRAINED ALONE WITH ANY BABY  how can anyone its just insane yes id have dogs and kids but im not going to leave a tiny baby in the room alone with ANY ANIMAL!