Hi, I have a 15 week border terrier who on thursday of last week was microchipped. On friday he wasnt his usual playful self, quiet but no vomiting , diarrhoea, but he did have slight shivering,  we monitored him through the nite and first thing sat morining took to the vet.The vet said he had a slight temp, and a slight reaction to chip which was  small swelling and gave him a antiboctic jab plus a anti-inflammarty one, plus a short course of tablets.
Late Saturday nite, sunday it had swelled to a small egg size, took him back monday where he had a needle inserted to see if it was an abcess, but no fluid drawn so give me more tablets of same type to take for longer. Today wednesday another lump as appeared looking exactly how the orginal one started, the chip was checked and it was under the first lump on monday, so has it migrated. the vet has said it is not there responsibility as the dog as had a reaction to it, the micro-chip company has said it should not move or cause these problems, as sterile needle to  chip and that the improper implanting has caused this?, so far about from the initaL fee of £22.00 for the chip , it has cost me another  £100.00 for the trips to the vets.
Money isnt really the issue here im just  concerned  that the pup might need a op to remove?, he is brighter in his self in the last day or so and it doesnt seem to hurt him if u touch it.
Any advice would be greatly taken on board, or has anybody else had any problem like this. I have had my other three dogs chipped at the surgery before with no problems.
Regards
lesleyanne

I had a problem like this with one of mine, a huge lump appeared on the sire of the implant and it was hot and sore, got the same as you in that the vet blamed the chip company but personally I feel it was the way it was implanted, the vet didnt seem to confident in putting the thing in so it wasnt as smoothly done as the other dogs I had chipped there at other times by a different vet, now I am quite wary of having chips done  on young puppies and leave it until they are 9 months old to be done.

quite a lot of chips implanted by vets migrate, yet they can do so without any health consequences.
so it might be another reason why your dog has reacted to it?
manner it was implanted?

I had a lot of chips migrate in cats and some even fell out, I contacted the chip company and they said it could have been my implant gun that was faulty, they sent me a new one, no problems at all, all chips since stayed put, AND they said if I wanted any migrated chips removed they would pay for this to be done. But the difference could of course be there was no vet involved?

It was Sarah on CD who wrote recently about a problem she had in one of her dogs Prinnie. sarah's bill is over £4,000 and the chip company will not pay because the chip was implanted on purpose and is not an illness or an accident.

did the mirco chipper clean the area first before putting the chip in,

i was told clean the area first then chip

thanks for all your replies, returned to vets today and saw the head vet, given more anti-boctics for him to take, but they are willing to x-ray him on monday to see where the chip exactly is, also if the chip has caused the secondary swelling they will take it out for us free of charge, no charge for x-ray either.The vet did say the chip was to far down his back about 3 inches from the correct place in his shoulder blades,and she did think it strange that the first swelling was where the chip appeared on the scanner so the possible  reason for the second lump could well be because the chip  had moved again, what she did say was that it was possibly faulty because the nurse was very experienced in this procedure and no problems had been inaccounted before by the practice using this brand of chip, she also mentioned a infection could have been introduced when he was microchipped through bacteria on his skin? Im just glad that it is being treated quickly and she is very conscientiuos orrecting the problem.  I was really worried that he could end up with a nasty infection that i had read about on another post. I will let u know how we get on .
Kind regards
Lesleyanne   

you stated she also mentioned a infection could have been introduced whenhe was chipped through bacteria on his skin.

this is why i said had the area been cleaned bye swab , quite a large are with a cleaner before entering the needle,

i was told at the course i did  to do this,??????????

> this is why i said had the area been cleaned bye swab , quite a large are with a cleaner before entering the needle,

What cleaner do you use ?

surgical sprit or veterinus derma gel spray

I use surgical spirits too, use the same for ear cleaning for tattooing-not heard of veterinus derma gel spray Thanks will have a look at it

your welcome

Hi, I waited in the consulting room as they took him into a areas where they do surgery to insert the chip, so i dont know whether they cleaned area or not but i would of thought it was a standard practice to clean area. Like when we attend doctors for a jab they swab the area, if i asked i dont think they would admit they hadnt cleaned the area as it semms good standard of hygiene.
 

I think it would be pointless, unless they also close shave the area I can't see that swabbing it in the way that human skin can be would be very effective at all.  Not to mention the fact that humans generally wash pretty regularly and dogs don't.  I would say, like all procedures with needles, this is just the risk you run with animals.

sounds odd
i have never been in a vets where i couldnt come in the room with my pet
epsesh microchipping????

when i had my cavalier microchipped they took her to a room while i waited in the waiting room, they said that was because sometimes in the smaller breed they can find the needle quite an experience as it has to be bigger for the chip etc and whimmper and struggle and then it is distressing for the owner, needless to say when she had it they brought her back and said she never even moved or cried ! My new cavvie is a whimp, really kicked off at the injections etc, when i asked about microchipping they told me to wait a good while cos i've got a crier and whimp !

distressing for the owner?

forget that, i want to witness what they are doing with my dog for myself, otherwise i cant set my mind at ease.
thats distressing for the owner!

yes i did think that, and was waiting eagerly in the waiting room to hear any crying etc, when my new cavvie gets hers done i will defo be insisting that i go into the room with her and hold her even if she does wriggle and cry, she'll be comforted my me not some stranger holding her !

Hi , today both lumps seem to be decreasing so fingers cross the tablets are working but im still going monday so they can xray him so we can see where chip is.
thank you all for your replies much appriecated.The vets i attended do not allow owners in to area where they operate and also chip for sterile reasons, no problem when my boston was chipped, other wise i would have gone with him if i was allowed .
Regards
Lesleyanne

seems strange to me that the chipping room is the same as the ops room.
what's wrong with the consultation room? you dont need a sterile room to microchip.
you could do it in the car park if you had to.
i've lots experience of many vets in my line of work, its a new one on me
i would except that story....call me a cynic, but my radar tells me other reasons are behind comments like that.

i asked other dog owners after this happened  who i walk with each morning on our local meadows who attend the same vets , and all stated there dogs were taken away to be chipped, so this must be there policy, but now i would insist to be there if ever i had a  neede a dog to be chipped, saying that this has put me off chipping. you do put trust into a vet that has treated 3 of my dogs over the course of 10 years with no problems but now im going to be very cautious, but mistakes do happen, i am just pleased he is ok and the vets are going to xray him to see where chip is and are being conscientous and not trying to pass buck to chip company who would probadly blame the person chipping the dog, as i read another post where the owner has seriuos health problems with there dog and have been left with a large vet bill and a maimed dog where nobody would take responsislity for the poor dogs condition caused by a microchip.
Thanks for replies.

The vets I work with always chip with the owners present.

> distressing for the owner?
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> forget that, i want to witness what they are doing with my dog for myself, otherwise i cant set my mind at ease.
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Me too!  I have all my dogs chipped, and I've always been the one to hold them.  I do think some vets are better at putting them in than others.  My usual vet has done all but one, and the one dog to have a different vet did cry out.  Since they have changed to the nurses for second vaccinations, and chipping, I have only once let a veterinary nurse carry out the second vaccination.  Pup cried, I now refuse to have anyone but my normal vet.  Not sure if they like it, but I pay the bills.

Lesleyanne

I have my litters chipped at 6 weeks and never had a problem, up until recently all were done by my vet, and never had a problem, I was also with them, I held them, vet implanted (not the nurse).. My last litter was chipped by the girls in the link below.  all done in my livingroom,  all pups very happy, and toddled off to play as soon a chip was implanted.. I have only had one who whimpered for a second..

http://www.girlswhochip.com/index.htm

Hi , we have been to vets today and the swelling is differently the chip as saw on the xray no signe of an abcess or fluid around the chip as vet said this would show up back around chip/ swelling area, vet said reaction caused by the dogs own immune system  as chip looked normal, second lump has now disappeared, still on course of antiboctics for another 4 days then back to vets to see how the lump is, im hoping it has diappeared as the size has reduced considerably.
will keep u posted.  

hi  prinnie had a 20cm hole in her neck as a result of the chip , she was in the vets for 9.5 weeks i have recently got her home. the lump around will be pinniculitos which is a inflamitory reaction to the chip if you dont get the chip and the tissue removed asap it can cause worse problems. and if your vet put the chip in they are responsable under consumer law can i ask you to get intouch with me asap as i have a campaign set up to make the companys correct the chips and i can also put you intouch with people who can help you get your pet better tel 07955989853 . i work school hours so if you call around that it would be helpfull. also look on google search reaction to microchip leading to a 20cm hole and you will see prinnies situation.

hi, just a update pups swelling has gone down considerably in size but the problem i have now is that when i checked the size of swelling today by very gently feeling it, lengthways no problem but if u feel widthways the chip clicks ? have only done it the once has i dont want to damage or cause further problems, pup in no pain ,vets closed due to really bad weather today n tommorrow, appointment with the head
vet again on monday will be asking to take out, has anybody any ideas why clicking noise!!
The vet said could take out quite easily but am still worried as there is a risk with surgery but feel that he has had a 2 week course of tablets which has reduced size but still not right.
Any advice would be greatly taken on board
Regards