when my female is next on heat i want to breed her, but some dogs just dont like her, and she can end up in a fight. so my question is will she accept any dog when the time is right and will any male be happy to breed with her. its my first time in owning a bitch and i will be lookin for a stud. also how do u introduce them for the matein as my female can sometimes not like other dogs when she is on the lead.
ive also heard i should take her to the males house to mate there is this true?
if any one can help me it would be very kind thank you steph xx

> also how do u introduce them for the matein as my female can sometimes not like other dogs when she is on the lead.
>

I have never bred dogs, but I would have thought that anything less than a sound temperment should not be bred from anyway?

I think you need to attend to sorting out your girls problems ie training classes .If you can`t I would think it is not wise to breed from her as the trait could be passed on to pups.

no sorry its not she is aggressive  she loves people and other dogs but sometimes they dont take to her. if another dog had a go at her she would back away and stear clear but if a dog started attacking her she would stand her ground. she would never ever start or look for a fight. she is a staffy and and her best friend is a male labradoodle but i dont want to breed them as they would be a cross.
i do go classes every week and she is fine. off lead she is no prob she would play with everything and anything. she loves kids, adults everything and she is so gental she fine with her food, toys and everything. its only SOMETIMES that she gets gobby on lead to SOME NOT ALL DOGS but ive spoken to loads of staffy owners and they said yer thats quite common. what i was askin is would all males accept her? and would she when ready accept any male to mate i no she would accept the labradoodle but like i said i dont want to breed them two.
thanks for ur advice so far tho xx

Hi to you, its good you came here for advice, before you breed your girl you need to have the health tests done appropriate for the breed, some Staffy people will be along in time to advise which tests should be done.

Yvonne.

Is she a pedigree, KC bred staff, froma kosher breeder? If she is then my best advice to you is to go back to the breeder and ask their advice. You can explain to them about the way other dogs react to her. They can advise on a stud from a line suitable for your bitch and whether it is wise for you to breed from her at all. The bitch should go to the stud and the stud should be an experienced, proven male. Never put a virgin bitch with an inexperienced male, particularly with this breed.

Without wishing to offend you I would also say that if your dog is not KC bred, with papers and a good, respected breeder behind her, then please do not breed from her. I am sure though that if you have come to this forum for advice this will not be the case.

Finally, are the dogs that react to your bitch with aggression of any breed or other staffs?

There are many good staff people on this forum and I am sure they will get on shortly and advise you further.

Hi Steph,

I'm afraid this may not be the advice you'd like, I'd would urge you to read this article (taken from Our Dogs Magazine) Staffords clogging up Rescue system and then to think very very carefully about wether bringing pups into the world in this climate is really a kind thing to do?
    Actually regardless of Breed... the financial climate alone is tenuos. You may well think you have 'freinds' / 'Neighbours' already lined up who have expressed interest or even promised outright they would have a pup from you. So you may think that the likely hood of 'your; pups ending up in rescue is slim, But these are uncertain times, you only have to look at this site at how many people are facing 'out of the blue' redundancies.
    Please think a little more about the lifetime ahead that these little ones will have.

With best wishes and intentions
Liv x

The over breeding and rescue situation with Staffords has got so bad that some rescue centres are neutering the breed for free..

Free Bull Breed Neutering:
The Mayhew Animal Home believes that neutering is one of the hallmarks of responsible pet ownership. Hundreds of animals languish and die in rescue centres and pounds, yet further supply is constantly created by pet shops and breeders, as well as owners who haven't had their pets neutered. Unfortunate and unnecessary breeding costs thousands of animals their lives every year and could so easily be stopped. A particularly prevalent problem is that of the overbreeding of Staffordshire Bull Terrier and SBT crosses. To help combat this, The Mayhew Animal Home presently offers free neutering for Staffordshire Bull Terriers and their crosses.

http://www.mayhewanimalhome.org/home/pressandmedia/keyinformation/index.html

I have read that nearly 50% of the dogs at that rescue are staffs and staff crosses.

HG and C,

Good advice both.

You've received excellent advice already, I just wanted to add that your bitch isn't even a year old yet so even if you should breed from her it's far too soon.

Hi i wouldnt breed from your girl for a few reasons:

She is too young (apparantly just over a year)
You are not in the know with breeding dogs, either research or leave it to the experts
Staffords are struggling to be found homes in rescues do not add to it
You havent got her tested for PHPV or the other eye thing (sorry)
She has questionable temperament
You dont have a good reason to breed from her apart from she is a bitch therefore is biologically able to produce, I.e showing her is dog shows, is she a good example of the breed and heaven forbid isnt blue.

I would get her spayed and enjoy her as a pet, not struggle to find GOOD homes, rear a litter for 8 weeks or more, pay vets bills even for a poss c-section which is quite common in staffords. Have the risk of losing her and her pups, not sleep for 5 weeks. Id get her spayed before her next season so the labradoodle doesnt get to her. Have her as a pet and let her be a pet loving you and not rearing a litter of puppies. Leave breeding staffords the the stafford breeders who are interested in the breed welfare, health and breed from standard dogs.

Louise

hi thanks for ur advice. she has been attacked by a cocker spaniel bitch and a jack russel terrier male also a male and female staffs wanted to really have a go but luckly they where throught railings while i was out for walk with her.
and yes they all act with aggression but my bitch trys to back away or backs away. she is a full pedigree kc reg with all the papers and i wouldnt breed her nw she is way to young. i was asking for the advice for the future.
she has an excelent temp so lovein.
i do want one litter from her as ive heard its good to and she is a lovely example of the breed very good lookin bitch she has champs in her blood line and everything.
thank you again

no i wouldnt breed from her nw at all way to young i aint silly.

do want one litter from her as ive heard its good to

Who said that, no doubt someone who has used staffs as a latest money making scheme.

have a look at how many of "your breed" are in rescue and crying out for loving homes - do you really want to add to that?!

I think we are wasting our time advising you, as you have got your mind set on breeding your bitch. How tall is she and what colour is she? Have you health tested her? Do you know how many staffs are in rescue at the moment? If she isnt a well bred show standard female, that has passed all her tests clear or unaffected then its irresponsible with all the dogs in rescue to breed from her. I know there are dogs of every breed in rescue but it seems that rescues are just full of staffs and bad examples at that. PLEASE dont add to this and save yourself money, stress, tears, heartbreak and sleep. If you want to do something for your breed, spay your bitch and donate to the breed rescue. Or even better rescue a stafford if your wanting to add to your numbers i cant imagine you will struggle to find the dog you want or even a new puppy.

Louise

> i do want one litter from her as ive heard its good to and she is a lovely example of the breed very good lookin bitch she has champs in her blood line and everything.

Who say's she's a lovely example? You I imagine.
I'm sure she is, to you. The rescues are full of 'lovely looking' examples and dogs who's owners thought it was good for a bitch to have at least one litter.

If you breed her you will be breeding for all of the wrong reasons and couple that with the breed she is and you are compounding the error.

I suggest you really think again, if there is this big market for all of these 'Staffi' pups, why are so many homeless?

she is red with a white chest and a white strip on her nose. my auntie bred staffs for years until her bitch was stolen when the pups were due. she stands  15in from the shoulder to the floor and gd build

the vets and other breeders say she is a nice example of the breed thank u.
i find u very rude. i aint a child and yes of course i would think she was gd example of breed as she is my bloody dog

There are several tests that will need to be done to ensure she's clear of the hereditary conditions that can affect Staffies. This is vital,or you, as the breeder responsible, could find yourself being sued if any of the puppies developed the conditions.

Here's an excellent article with breeding advice I saw for the first time today -it really does cover everything. A must read for anyone contemplating a litter. http://www.dogstuff.info/to_breed_or_not.html

>i do want one litter from her as ive heard its good to and she is a lovely example of the breed very good lookin bitch she has champs in her blood line and everything.

I do not know who told you it is good for a bitch to have a litter, but in reality, being in whelp, puts the bitch under physical stress & in fact is the most dangerous time of a bitches life & in fact is not "good for her"

Reasons for breeding should not be for the"good"of the bitch, but to improve the breed. This means she should be fully health tested & the dog that you select should be similarly tested, you must be able to take back any puppies that become unwanted, for whatever reason, that she produces, be prepared to keep, train & socialize all the puppies until suitable owners contact you, possibly long after the 8 weeks old stage. You must be able to provide 24/7 follow up care & advice. You also must be prepared for vets bills etc in the region of £1000 upwards. you have to be willing to spend at least 14 days with the bitch 24/7 to ensure she does not crush, neglect etc any of the puppies.

You need to learn how to question prospective owners to ensure that they are suitable to own a puppy & that they just don't want one for a fad or just to breed from & make money.

You've already been given a heads up about the number of SBTs that are in rescues-they easily outnumber all the other breeds & in some rescues they out number all the other breeds & non breeds together.

I've got two super Cavaliers & three gorgeous Border Collies beautifully bred & healthy-however my Cavaliers will not be bred from & neither will two of my three BCs(possibly all three).

Owning & breeding dogs is privilege not a doG given right, just because the dogs are KC registered & have been bought by us.

Champions in the pedigree is not the be all & end all & few vets are knowledgeable about suitability of a dog for breeding from BTW

A couple more here..

http://www.21stcenturycares.org/misbreeding.htm

http://www.nopuppymillscanada.ca/byb.htm

> the vets and other breeders say she is a nice example of the breed thank u.
> i find u very rude

no one is trying to be rude stephy and matty, just everyone here really loves dogs and is worried for your girl and any potential pups.

many people wrongly believe that its good for a bitch to have a litter. bitches are absolutely fine not ever having puppies, in fact having a litter can be very dangerous- you can see this by the number of posts from people who come on desperately seeking a bitch with extra milk. this happens when someones bitch has died in labour and the pups still need food.

it is not uncommon.

it is also astonishingly expensive. you will need to have every possible health test for staffs done as well as hip scoring. if, and its a big if, she passes all of these well then you need to find a stud who compliments her. without analysis in the show ring this might be hard to do, vets know very very little about the correct conformation of breeds- there is another thread right now with someone worried sick that their dog is over weight when really shes just heavily built from big lines. individual breeds are rarely something vets are up on.

the stud of course also hasto have good health test results.

then you will probably want ovulation testing to see when best to mate, that will cost a fair whack.

not sure what stud fees in your breed are but commonly its the value of a pup

then any prenatal care

then during the whelp you may need vet. this can run into big money, and of course can be frankly terrifying.

then all the whelping kit etc, feeding and so on.

you'll also be responsible for the pups for their entire lives. one of the breeders here took back a nine year old recently.

i'm just trying to outline the sheer effort and funds it takes to raise a litter well.

as others have said if you are determined to breed her your breeder will be able to advise you of a good stud to use and be able to work through the whole process with you.

> i find u very rude. i aint a child and yes of course i would think she was gd example of breed as she is my bloody dog

Just because you own a dog does not automatically mean it is a good example of it's breed.

You will find that this forum is full of people that own the 'best' dogs in the world, but they are wise enough to realise that the dogs are not always good enough to breed from.

Correct me if I'm wrong but have you responded to any of the comments with regards to all of the required health screening that you should do if you intend to breed this excellent example of the breed?

Do you actually intend to do any of the screening?

I'm sorry, but here we go again........

I have two staffords who have umpteen champions in their pedigree, they are in several judges opinions good examples of their breed.  It DOES NOT mean I have to (or want to for that matter) go out and have a litter from either of them.

Has your stafford been tested for L2?  Has she been tested for HC?  PHPV?
Even IF your stafford has been health tested, is a good example of the breed, etc does not mean you have to breed from her.
As has already been stated, rescues countrywide are absolutely full to the seams with unwanted Staffords, even the very well known affixes are having problems selling pups at the moment!  Do you have a waiting list for your bitches pups?

I really do think as owners of a very popular, overused and abused breed, we ALL need to be reconsidering our goals and aims for the Stafford. 

Please consider the very helpful advice that has already been offered to you Stephy and Matty.

Couldn't agree more Tessies Tracy

you have had so much good advise from posters her please think carefully i know someone that has 3 kc reg staffie pups left at 12wk old and no phone calls recently. one pup went to its new home and came back two days later with the new owner saying they could not cope.

please please if you want to breed leave it at least two years to see if we get over this ressesion so many people are giving their dogs to recue because they cant aford them so please think, wait,and resurch carfully.

and please dont forget that  some rescue centers are putting staffs down when they are handed in as they can not find enough homes for them.

be responsible for your breed and dont join the money make hoody scumbags that give our bull breed the reputation they have and dont deserve.

Well said Tessies Tracy.

Stephy and Matty - this is all simply the advice you have asked for.  Everyone on this board is an animal lover and pet owner - some of whom just happen to compete and breed - but first and foremost they love their animals.  After every show they always take the best dog home ;-)

what about the whole litter taken to the vets recently to be pts? cant remember the breed but the thread is on here somewhere

It was labradoodles - supposedly a very "in" breed.

Indeed and take a look at the latest production from ITV's London Tonight London area programme. 
Look how our breed (and their crosses no doubt) are being abused by people who obviously don't know any better.

Warning though, some of the images and video clips are distressing.

http://info.itvlocal.com/dogs.shtml

I really would ask you to please consider very carefully the future of your female Stafford.  I'm sure you love her very much, but at the moment, my advice (as asked for by you) would be not to breed her for a good long while and if that means years then so be it.  If she is worthy of anything it is having a good life as a much loved pet in your home.
I'm going to stop now, as you may have gathered, this is a subject that is very emotive to me.

A close relative bred his very well bred, health tested and hip scored, show winning and excellent working bitch of a breed known for their easy whelping.  The mating was planned every step was perfect.  The stud dog was the best health tested available match they travelled for 6 hours just to get there.  They had excellent breed mentors. A list of people waiting for puppies as long as your arm. Nothing could go wrong.

Except it did.  The bitch didn't go into labour on the expected day.  Nothing wrong with that, it can be a few days either side.  By the time it was established the bitch needed help - vet was happy to wait she was showing no signs of illness or distress, it was just an experienced dog owner's instinct - the litter was dead and they were lucky to save the bitch, it was a very close call.

4 years planning, thousands of pounds paid out, a terrifying experience and all they have to show for it is a speyed bitch - and lucky that they have her.  Then they had to phone all the people on the puppy waiting list and explain and help them find a pup from another breeder with the same lines.

Are you really prepared to put yourself and your bitch through that, just because you want a pup out of her and you think it will do her good?

well thanks for all the advice.
and just for the record i love my dog to bits and would never want any harm, pain or anything to come to her. she is everything to me.
and i no what u all have said and i think its cz my dog is a staffy, and that the only reason so many are in shelters is because of there owners there is nufin wrong wiv a staffy they are one of the best breeds of dog out there and i will in the near futuer adopt one myself.
people dnt no what they are givin away or they just aint got a clue how to b wiv them.
but thanks for all advice given. its all taken aboard.

You came on here asking advice about breeding a dog that has questionable temperment.  People very knowledgable have given you wonderful advice.  You need to do health testing, as well as looking at your own dog OBJECTIVELY as to whether she is good or not to the breed standard.  Many breeders on here have wonderful dogs that they wont breed because they may not measure up properly.   Breeding is not done because you love your bitch.  Everyones dog is the best dog in the world to them, but may not be breeding quality.
There is also a lot of research that needs to be done while looking for a stud to use on your bitch.  Its not a thing about putting two dogs together. 
Also, could you please type in proper English.  Your writting style is very hard to comprehend with your shortforms and slang.  Thank you.

>i no what u all have said and i think its cz my dog is a staffy

If you do a search on CD you will find that our replies are the same for any breed ;)  unfortunately with Staffies being highly popular, this question will have been asked more often by Staffy owners simply because there are more Staffy owners.  Breeding a bitch is a huge step, and there are no guarantees of a happy outcome ;) 

No-one here would question your love for your dog at all, the sheer fact that you have asked for info does show that you were after advice and guidance because you care for your dog. The thing is it may not have been the advice you were expecting.

Everybody would also agree with you about there being nothing wrong with a Staffi, they are lovely dogs. Sadly though as a breed they have been picked out by the wrong type of people for breeding for the wrong reason and it has brought about an explosion of dogs with poor breeding and maybe even questionable natures.

Sadly now there are so many in rescue centres all down the humans exploiting this lovely breed of dog.

Everybody on this forum would wish you well with your girl and would hope that after all they have said that you have come to realise that this breeding stuff can be very expensive, nerve racking and sometimes even dangerous, and as you have just said you love her so much you wouldn't want to see her come to any harm.

So have fun with your girl as the lovely pet I'm sure she is :)

> is she a good example of the breed and heaven forbid isnt blue

I know almost nothing about staffs. A work collegue has been told to advoid a blue, I did not know why.

So...

Why is the blue a bad thing. I have heard this twice now?

was asking for the advice for the future.

I thought you said in your first post, you wanted to breed on her next season.. that is not to long in the future..6mths at the most

Well people on the band wagon think blue is a rare colour therefore all the BYB charge 900+ for a blue pup, thats so far away from a standard stafford not tested etc etc blue doesnt fair well in the show ring so there are not to many around in the show circulation so apparantly they are 'rare'. Decent stafford breeders wont breed for the blue colour.

Louise

So when her partner says they would be getting a truely "valuable dog for £xx" and "we can make £xx from any of her pups" ...OMG!!

Well hopefully she listens to the other person rather than him.

Not valuble really now coz EVERYONE is doing it, if you look on these ads majority of the are blue, or ''carry'' the blue gene may be going up for 20'' tall like but its a blue mate yeahhhhhhh lol

Louise

There's an old thread here that discusses blues..

http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/45234.html

Thanks for that ;-)

> and i no what u all have said and i think its cz my dog is a staffy, and that the only reason so many are in shelters is because of there owners there is nufin wrong wiv a staffy

With all due respect I don't think you have listened to what some of us have said.  I have said that I own 2 staffords, and regardless of breed, the concern that all of our posters here who have replied is that the breed is being absolutely crucified at the moment with overbreeding and Staffords ending up in shelters.
The concern is for the dogs welfare, regardless of breed.
I do hope that you have, as you have said, taken the advice on board.

I believe that the blue gene is a recessive dilute gene of the black colour.

Shouldn't cost any more than your average KC reg'd SBT, but sadly still many many for sale on the free ad sites. 
And there are a few, but not many, 'good' examples of the breed carrying a blue coat imo.

Totally agree, the colour is main priority and i doubt any of these 'breeders' or the OP for a matter of fact would take the pups/dogs back if owners can no longer keep them. There is no NEED for the OP to breed, just like there is not a need for anymore staffs. If someone wants to buy a staff pup, go to a rescue i bet you can find an unwanted litter somewhere in the country. Its a shame because the good work of all the good breeders is being ruined and i bet they feel for thier breed when they dont breed because they THEMSELVES dont want to add to numbers even though THIER pups wouldnt end up in rescue, prospective pet buyers after a pup could take on a rescue.

Louise