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there is nothing wrong with buying a blue or breeding a blue- people just need to be aware that they shouldnt be paying mega bucks for them

Funny isn't it.  A breed that I am familiar with allows Blues, and in the states Fawns are shown, but when a stud dog was found to be carrying the colour blue by producing some his owner and the bitches breeder were not exactly overjoyed, and I think the pups were sold for less thanb normal price as pets only.  The reason being even though th4e coloiurs are acceptable because of teh colouring eye colour is usally undesirably light and poor coat is also linked with the dilution in colour.

we live in South Wales and paid £ 385 for our red and white pied girl, we would have had to pay more if we had gone to England. We know this because we rang all the kc registered breeders that had current litters as we were looking for a mostly white with only a little red over ear/eye. The English litters were more expensive but it was ironic because out of the 7 breeders we tried only the one near Swansea had what we wanted but we would have paid more. I dont know what is worse charging more for a colour or charging more because of a different country.
To be honest, I think the more a dog costs the better because hopefully it will deter the idiots ! We were lucky because our breeder asked as many questions about us as we did about them, in fact we had to persuade them that we would be good parents because we hadnt had a dog before,although my Husband had had three when at home.

>To be honest, I think the more a dog costs the better because hopefully it will deter the idiots !

It can have quite the opposite result, though, because 'the idiots' think of the dog as being a money-spinner to churn out badly-bred pups that they then go and charge the earth for! :rolleyes: And so it goes on ...

Just a quick question...as the owner of a 5 month old blue ISBT...
I have never seen a KC staff in blue, only ever seen ISBTs in blue...is it just a question of not looking hard enough?

Also - any ideas why a whole host of ISBT websites seemed to shut down simultaneously a few months back?

The reason the websites you are thinking off closed down is because they were amateurs trying to con people out of money.

The people who ran the site were a joke and most of the information on the very basic things such as names of famous dogs was incorrect.  The bloke who started this ISF had only been in the breed less than a year but felt he knew it all when really he knew sweet FA.  They set up a registry but ended up taking peoples money without sending on papers then in the end did a runner.  There are plenty of reputable sites around its just a case of looking hard enough most are not openly searchable and are passed through word of mouth.

A blue dog should be worth no more than a red, white, fawn, brindle, pied or black dog.  A litter of blue pups costs the same to raise and feed as a litter of any of the above and each pup in the litter has the same chance of being good regardless of colouring.  Paying higher prices sadly ususally has nothing to do with the quality of the dog, just usually is telling about the breeder. Good dogs come in all colours, shapes and sizes.

I agree that the prices you see nowadays for these dogs are ridiculous but its all to do with supply and demand so I am told.  Some of the best breeders I know do not make any money from their dogs, most of the best breeders I know never sell dogs but place them with friends and other breeders for future use.  Dont believe all the hype that surrounds certain "in vogue" colours, next year it will be something else.  If you really want a blue dog then I see no problems but rather than dive in feet first do plenty of research into the type of dog you want, look at different breeders and dont pay over the odds - you will only be lining somebody elses pockets. 

as you can guess from the name I own blue Irish staffies :-)
I paid £600 each for both of my bitches and £500 for the dog.
I didnt mind paying that price, I would pay it again as blues are totally stunning and I think they are much nicer than other colours of staffs. they have gorgeous green eyes too which makes them unusual.
If people didnt want to pay extra for them they wouldnt, you cant force people to buy dogs can you?
:-)

Green eyes ????

Yeah that is what I thought Happy Staffy?  I have been around these dogs years and never seen green eyes in a blue dog - that would be interesting do you have any pictures IrishBlueStaffy?

Any blue dogs I have been around have had hazel/amber (almost yellowish) eyes.

we have a white with red eye/ear Eng Staff girl with gold eyes and she is beautiful as well.

No you cant force people to buy dogs but the point is it is not fare to rip people off when they may not know any better (not saying everybody who buys them wont but just a general observation).  Anybody who charges over the odds for certain colours of pups are imo peddlers.  Of course people are entitled to buy (and pay as much) as they like for whatever they want but it's not nice when you feel you are ripped off.  One example was my friend who against his better judgment paid £650 for a blue brindle pup then when the pup was 3 months old was offered a pup from much better lineage for nothing.  Kind of sticks in your throat, if you look around there are always genuine people out there breeding quality dogs and not trying to rip people off in the process, the genuine breeders out there care little for money - FACT.

You see a blue dog is no more valuable than a black, brindle, white, red, pied dog, the litter costs the same amount of money to raise so why do we still see adverts for people who feel it ok to charge say £300 for one colour of dogs in the litter but the blues are going for £600?  Do the blue dogs cost more to feed than the others?  Also imo a good breeder will charge a steady price for all pups regardless of lineage or colouring.   Like I said what people want and want to pay is their perogative but the main reason in my posting or replying if you like is to advise people who have limited knowledge that these prices are not the norm for a stafford and to give a bit of advice as a little advice often goes a long way.  For these people to look about and not be fooled into all the "rare" blue malarky.

theyre eyes are gorgeous, a very pale greenish yellow. I am happy with the dogs I bought for my money and I would pay the same again as my dogs are totally gorgeous and you get what you pay for as they say :-)
I agree with what you say about the ISF that was a rip off cant understand why folk were silly enough to guve the guy their money for a silly bit of paper that was all lies anyway! :-) now thats gullible!

Loving the ISBT chat...just for reference, my boy has grey eyes, which I'm told is relatively standard. I'd like to see some pictures of your dogs if possible?

Also Illeach can you let me know some of these harder to find sites?

With regards to the chat about paying big money for colour. I can only speak from my experience but I guess it boils down to the value you attach to having something a little less common. I walk my dog with a brindle Staffordshire, he is a gorgeous dog and has the ancestry of champions, even still, every day I have somebody tell me "I have never seen one like that before, what is he, the colour is amazing". IMO there must be a value to this - remembering that some people do not have the luxury of just breeding for the breed sake I do not see anything wrong with charging a little extra for blues. Something is only worth what people are willing to pay at the end of the day...

LEX:)