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- By Moonmaiden Date 16.06.07 13:53 UTC
LOL I've just been to see a litter of British Domestic kits(lolol the sunday name for moggies)& will be getting one when they are old enough. Not had a kit for over 20 years(last two cats lived until almost 20)so can't remember the optimum time for vax if they are needed(will be have titre tests done of course before hand)

The wee moglet(actually from their size the large moglet)will be ready in about 4 weeks plus so what to get myself organised !

Can't wait  as I do miss my moggies
- By Boxacrazy [gb] Date 16.06.07 15:44 UTC
Your only getting one???!!!!:eek: that's what I call control!!
:D

Can't remember either, normally pedigrees kitty's are 12 weeks before they
are allowed home..

Looking on t'internet it looks like they can have their vaccinations from 9 weeks old
and some vets prefer to leave 3 weeks between the jabs.
They also prefer you to have had kitty home for a week before starting vaccinations.

short hair or fluffy??

Awww love kittens..got two of the grown up variety...
Hope you have lots of fun :)
- By Moonmaiden Date 16.06.07 16:22 UTC
Wellllllll it might only be one LOLOLOLOL you never know if my BC puppy to be mum takes much longer to come in season !!!  Might be two if it's ages ;-)

I thought it was 9 weeks or older so I wasn't too far out. These are quite big kits mind you 4 times as big as my mouse cat that I found at 10 days old & half as big as my dad's last cat who was 10/12 weeks old when he came home !

Short coated either white & grey or white & black

Off surfing for moglet stuff now ! :-D
- By Blue_Skies Date 16.06.07 16:29 UTC
We got out cat at 8 weeks :rolleyes:  She had her first Vacs at 11 weeks old. Then the second at 13 weeks.

I'd love to own a White & Black. Good Luck for when she comes home!  :D
- By Nikita [gb] Date 17.06.07 11:13 UTC
You're making me miss my cats again!  we got my older two at only 6 weeks old (that was 20 years ago, we didn't know better!), both tabby moggies.  One blacky-grey and the other a gorgeous deep ginger colour, not seen the like since.  We lost the ginger at 16 and the black at 20 last year.  My little cat we found under the car at 5 months old, she lived to 9 last year.

Ooo, I want a cat!  Can't have one though, somehow I don't think it'd last long with Soli :rolleyes:
- By Archiebongo Date 16.06.07 17:30 UTC
Ahh Kittens, I recently lost my older Maine Coon girl and my heart wants me to get another one but my head says no as she was knocked down.  Still have my silver tabby mc boy though.  Both my kittens were 12 weeks when I got them and fully vaccinated except Feline leukemia.  The reason this was not done by their breeder was so as not to overload their systems. 

Have fun with your new kitten when it arrive

Jill
- By Boxacrazy [gb] Date 16.06.07 17:44 UTC
Oooohhhhhh Maine Coon's....:cool:
Now if I was to have a pedigree cat it's between a MC and a Norwegian Forest Cat...

My moggies are semi-longhaired, dark tortie and a black/white with some smoking to the black.
Half brother and sister...

I'd go for the white and grey kitty :)
- By Izzy bear [gb] Date 16.06.07 18:03 UTC
Norwegian Forest Cats are so beautiful, when our domestic british short hair (black moggy) is gone thats what breed we will be getting.:)
- By Moonmaiden Date 16.06.07 18:04 UTC
OOOOH NFC's my fave pedigree & I will have one just not now as these dogs need putting in their places ;-) now LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

They were all so pretty Now have ordered litter tray & carrying basket. LOL already have some kitten nosh(got it free !!) off to seek more !
- By Lissie-Lou [gb] Date 16.06.07 19:10 UTC
Oh congrats!!  I hadn't had a kitten for years, got a little black moggy girl last October and I don't think I've ever had so much fun or laughed so much!  Some days she makes me laugh till I cry.  Her best friend is my GSD, they adore each other.
Hope you have so much fun with your new baby :-)

Edited to add - I could have had her sister as well.....but didn't, that was one awful decision to have to make!!
- By ChristineW Date 16.06.07 19:46 UTC
I think pedigree cats - says her with 2 but too lazy to check their vaccination certificates - are done at 8 & 12 weeks and then go to their new homes at 13 weeks as per the GCCF guidelines.

Can I ask what is this 'thing' about Norwegian Forest cats? I can't see the attraction.  :confused:  My mum has a moggie that looks exactly like one, I want a pedigree cat to look like a pedigree cat!    Their noses are too long and their ears too big & upright!!!!!  ;)    Have you seen Selkirk Rex?  The kittens look like they've been boil washed and then sprun dry!    

My lovely Jack!
- By Moonmaiden Date 16.06.07 20:20 UTC
I love their characters & their size & having met a good few & they are just what I like in a cat ;) How could you not love a cat that looks like this

Having said that I just love moglets as well lolololololol
- By Dogz Date 16.06.07 21:08 UTC Edited 16.06.07 21:11 UTC
My last old boy (Rover) lasted til he was 20.....didn't think I could have any more animals after him, the most handsome tabby boy you ever saw. He did have a sweet siamese for company for a few years who used to like to play retrieve the paper ball, she was a sickly diaabetic and was pts at about 7.
Karen
- By Lissie-Lou [gb] Date 16.06.07 21:13 UTC
I'd love a siamese.  My late partner had one called Pug, for many years.  Apparently he was more dog than cat :-)
- By Dogz Date 16.06.07 21:27 UTC
Yep our puss was more of a dog than a cat, great personality I would have another.
Karen ;-)
- By ChristineW Date 16.06.07 21:28 UTC
How could you not love a cat that looks like this

Quite easily!   ;)  :D
- By Moonmaiden Date 17.06.07 09:28 UTC
Christine Really ;-) LOLOLOLOL
- By Archiebongo Date 17.06.07 11:36 UTC
Sorry give me a maine coon anytime, prefer the shape of their heads to NFC.  i think maine coon coats look a bit easier to maintain, not so fluffy.  My silver tabby boy thinks he's a dog anyway and loves playing fetch

Jill
- By ChristineW Date 17.06.07 11:41 UTC
Ooohhhhhh no archiebongo give me a BSH black tipped (Properly bred 39/10) anyday of the week, the kittens are gorgeous with proper neat ears and short noses!  ;) And none of that brushing malarky!  ;)  :D  :P
- By Archiebongo Date 17.06.07 11:55 UTC
Brushing!  Twice a year brushed and bathed when they start to change their coats.  The fields do the rest!  Not too bad for hairball either!

Jill
- By munkeemojo Date 17.06.07 16:37 UTC Edited 17.06.07 16:40 UTC
i'm a sucker for BSH's too-i love the blue's, but i would love love love a birman-not bothered about what colour, but i do like seal and blue points.....and ragdolls.... In a few years time maybe (although OH will be twisting my arm for a british blue)
- By ChristineW Date 17.06.07 18:28 UTC
I've just found an ad for a cracking BSH black tortie kitten..............

Ooooohhhhhhhhh where can I raise the cash from for a norty tortie?
- By Goldmali Date 17.06.07 18:18 UTC
Trouble with Maine Coons are they are quite hard to live with! To me anyway who love the laid back Persians -my other half's Maine Coons drives me NUTS! One example: my step son texted me yesterday during the dog show I was at, and asked just HOW the dogs at home would have been able to get to the kitchen bin and empty it? It sits in the window, high up behind the counter and far away. I texted back saying ASK RINGO!!!!! Ringo being one of the MCs. :D If there's trouble in this house, you can guarantee he's behind it.
- By Archiebongo Date 17.06.07 18:31 UTC
Marianne

Must be luck, my boy is soo laid back he's horizontal. he wont get off the bed until you physically pick him up and chuck him out!  he's always been soo lazy.  he only discovered he was a cat last year (he's 7!) and not a cushion!   Even wehn he was a kitten, he would lye down to play with you and avoid expending too much energy! 

Jill
- By Boxacrazy [gb] Date 17.06.07 18:59 UTC
Ooooh that sounds a perfick addition to the house with my Boxers :D
Both as bad as each other LOL :D
- By Goldmali Date 16.06.07 22:20 UTC
It's vacc at 9 weeks and 12 weeks -and really NO kitten should leave its mother before 13 weeks. :) For a mog from  parents that have been outside it's more or less a must to bloodtest for leukaemia and FIV -FeLV mainly because it's important to know the status if the kitten is going to be vaccinated for this.
- By Lissie-Lou [gb] Date 16.06.07 23:11 UTC
I remember you saying that in response to one of my posts a while ago Marianne.  My kitten was 8 weeks when I got her.  Very immature, and kept trying to suckle from my Shepherd.  It is something I'll remember in the future - though I didn't have a clue at the time.
- By Moonmaiden Date 17.06.07 09:27 UTC Edited 17.06.07 09:39 UTC
Thanks Marianne I will be having him blood tested(don't think he will have been jabbed etc before I get him) & I don't think he will be here until he's at least 13 weeks old just worked out the dates the lady gave me & I was thinking he would be 10 weeks old(she said in 10 weeks time not 4 dunno where I got that from)Doh he is already 3 weeks old !!! forgot to add on his current age :rolleyes::rolleyes: senior moment !
- By Goldmali Date 17.06.07 18:20 UTC
Enjoy the kitten MM. :) They're such fun and no need for all the extra work with housetraining etc like with pups. :D
- By Moonmaiden Date 17.06.07 18:24 UTC
I will do I think Rjj will have met his match !!!
- By Ktee [us] Date 17.06.07 22:14 UTC

>and really NO kitten should leave its mother before 13 weeks


How come?Is it the same as with dogs,as in socialisation,learning manners etc etc. Most kitts i know of go at 8 weeks.
Although it's been a very long time since i've actually bought a cat,as stray youngins' always turn up that i cant turn away :rolleyes: But when i do eventually buy one,it will be a burmese,i've never really had an affectionate cat,and all the burms i've met have been really cuddly and dog like :)
- By Goldmali Date 17.06.07 23:07 UTC
How come?Is it the same as with dogs,as in socialisation,learning manners etc etc. Most kitts i know of go at 8 weeks.

Kittens don't mature anywhere near as fast as puppies. They suckle their mothers for a minimum of 10 weeks, often right up to the day they leave at 13 weeks. They don't start on solids until later -puppies 3 weeks, kittens usually 5-6 weeks, I have had the rare litter that started at 4 weeks (each time ONLY because the mother had run out of milk and so they were encouraged to start, and each time it gave the kittens gastric problems as their bodies weren't ready for solids yet) but it is also very common for kittens not to touch solids until 8 weeks. I have had 2 or 3 litters where one kitten didn't touch any solid food until 10 weeks old. It's slightly different in moggies because such litters are virtually never well reared, and so the kittens are forced to start earlier, the mother won't have enough milk etc etc, or the kitten is sold/given away and have no choice, but it isn't good for them and the best start for any kitten is mother's milk alone for at least 5-6 weeks, then solid food AND mother's milk until 10 weeks minimum.

Every time I have a litter and look at them aged 8 weeks and see just how often they suckle their mum and how much they still depend on her I am horrified at the thought of all those poor kittens taken away at that age -it's very cruel indeed. (Letting kittens go at 8 weeks could be compared to letting pups go at 4-5 weeks.) I've had rescue moggy kittens at young ages and they don't get a chance to develop normally at a more natural pace -and they often end up with behavioural problems for life, even if some are things that people don't always notice as they think it is normal for all cats.(Such as excessive kneeding, and also drooling. I had one rescued mog that arrived at 8 weeks and desperately tried to suckle my hair looking for milk, he never stopped that habit during all his life.) Given her own choice, a queen will not stop suckling her kittens and encourage them to leave/be independent as early as 8 weeks, it's more like 3-4 months.

Socialisation of course isn't the same as in dogs either as you don't have to get kittens used to different situations, and anybody who rears a litter well will spend time with the kittens so they get used to people -it doesn't even have to be a lot of different people. Not to mention that having a friendly, outgoing mother AND father is the very best way to get an outgoing kitten.

Cat fancy rules also say you must have had kittens fully vaccinated before they are sold, and that means first vacc at 9 weeks, second at 12 weeks, and one full week left before they are sold. But even if this wasn't so, at 3-4 months of age kittens are just right to leave their mothers and can cope far better than at earlier ages. This is when they start to become independent and want to start exploring their surroundings on their own.
- By ChristineW Date 18.06.07 08:17 UTC
Good post Marianne.  :D
- By Goldmali Date 18.06.07 09:14 UTC
:) Thanks. Last week we celebrated the birth of my 50th litter of kittens so I've had a few to observe over the years. :)
- By ChristineW Date 18.06.07 14:25 UTC
Just 50?  ;)   I've yet to breed one!   But that's Jack's fault for wanting to lead a celibate life.   HG has almost exploded with impatience!!!    Wonder if she'll see this???
- By Goldmali Date 18.06.07 14:34 UTC
Oh good luck! :) Unfortunately you do get the odd cat (either sex) that refuse to mate. :( Others take a couple of years then suddenly get the idea LOL.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 18.06.07 08:29 UTC
Wow, and I remember getting a kitten at 6 weeks.  Pretty sure the mogs across the road born to a baby Mum went at that age too, even though I told them it was too young. 

The Young female went straight out and got pregnant again and the kits were born when the young Father of the house had just died, and they early wanted the second litter gone asap. 

They got her spayed after that and she is till a tiny cat, though has grown quite a bit since the litters.

People really do not know anything about the reproductive habits of cats at all.
- By HuskyGal Date 18.06.07 20:13 UTC
:rolleyes: <- Sulky, Green with envy face on HG!!!!
Im as envious as all hell, my mum lost our Last MC boy at the end of last year, still miss his little head butts for attention :(
*Deep sigh*
take pity on a poor mogless Gal, Moon wont you..photo's please!!!!
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