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Topic Dog Boards / Showing / beardie nose!
- By dilemma199 [gb] Date 15.06.07 07:14 UTC
I have a blue eight week old beardie pup and apparently her nose should also be blue but it looks very black. will it lighten and if it doesnt would that be a major bar to showing her?
- By echo [gb] Date 15.06.07 08:05 UTC
A Blue Beardie has a blue nose from birth as a rule.  What colour is her coat at the moment?
- By dilemma199 [gb] Date 15.06.07 11:49 UTC
her coat is greyey blue colour like a mouse! shes definitely blue as there were blacks in the litter.
emma
- By LucyD [gb] Date 17.06.07 20:24 UTC
No idea, but I'm afraid I had to laugh as a major worry in my breed is noses that should be black and aren't!! :-D
- By dilemma199 [gb] Date 17.06.07 20:28 UTC
which breed is that just out of nosey interest?:cool:
- By LucyD [gb] Date 20.06.07 15:40 UTC
Cavaliers. :-) It's hard sometimes to get the black nose with the blenheims and rubies, specially in the winter.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 17.06.07 21:53 UTC
Are you sure she isn't slate, or is that the same as blue???
- By beardiesokay [gb] Date 18.06.07 06:28 UTC
Slates are different to blues. Beardie colouring is not easy to understand. You don't see too may born black/stay blacks these days. If you do, the coat is generally a bit softer/silky. Most are slates, (which are born black), pale to any degree of slate. Many a dark blue/light slate has been mixed up by judges.

Your blue could have particularly dark pigment, some blues do. What colour are her eyes, lip pigment, eye-rim pigment?
If you put your Beardie next to a black or slate, you may then see that the nose is a tad lighter? 

Kay
- By Moonmaiden Date 18.06.07 07:20 UTC
All my blue beardies were born blue & had blue noses, slates & blacks have black noses, browns have dark brown noses & fawns a lighter coloured brown nose.

No blue should have a black nose & many light slates are registered as blues nowadays.

I only bred two litters & had all the colours(except tri colours)in them, the blacks were much denser in colour when born & they stayed black with harsh coats, in fact none of my beardies had softer coats, but of course they didn't have any modern show breeding behind them like the current show dogs. The slates start to lighten up quite quickly & by the time they were ready to go they were obviously slates(albeit very dark ones)

Eye colour no longer helps as the breed standard had to be changed due to line breeding by many to a certain brown dog who had incorrect eye colour. The breed standard was originally eye colour brown except in browns & fawns where it could follow the colour of the coat whereas it is now simply eye colour to follow the colour of the coat. All my dogs & their puppies had brown eyes even the browns & the fawn & my Blue champion had brown eyes too-pity the show ring fashion has changed all that
- By echo [gb] Date 18.06.07 07:49 UTC Edited 18.06.07 07:52 UTC
I have since seen a photo of her and she looks to be a lovely blue to me.  She has the grey blue eyes and the soft looking chinchilla coat so typical of a blue puppy.  Her nose, judging by the picture is also blue.  No worries there she is gorgeous.

Just to add the eyes will change again to brown although it may be lighter than the slate babies.  My blue boy has slightly lighter eyes than the slate girls but this is not to be penalised according to the standard (in blues).
- By dilemma199 [gb] Date 18.06.07 08:59 UTC
thankyou everyone for all your helpful replies, as mentioned above Echo kindly looked at a piccy of Jess and I now have an experts view on a blue nose so all is good :cool:. what a complicated breed they are regarding coat colour, back to the ever growing beardie book collection more revision for me I think!!!
emma
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