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Topic Other Boards / Foo / shocked at human behaviour
- By abbymum [gb] Date 29.05.07 22:27 UTC
I went out on Sat night for my friends 30th and she wanted to go to a local club. The night started as normal but about 12:30 while on the dance floor there were a group of young men next to us all of a sudden one of them smashed a bottle and stuck it anothers forehead. Poor kid was out cold for about 25 mins, it took the same length of time for an ambulance to arrive because they were so busy.
I dont understand it I like to go out and have a few drinks and when I was younger get totally smashed(I know not very responsible) but I have never had the urge to fight or bottle anyone.
At least the person who got bottled was able to walk to the ambulance.
Mary
- By luvhandles Date 29.05.07 22:46 UTC
:-(  So sad. I would never go out in the city centre any more for that very reason.......I constantly worry about the time when my 15 year old starts 'going out' - three years isn't that far away and I don't know how I will be able to rest when he is out:eek:
- By LJS Date 30.05.07 05:52 UTC
I am afraid this is normal behaviour now :(

I am not sure what the answer is but I think alot of it starts from home and heavier penalties so the offenders think twice before they do something similar again :)

Lucy
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- By Paula20380 [gb] Date 30.05.07 06:58 UTC
It's the reason I don't go out drinking in town anymore. I used to love going out with all my mates getting hammered and having fun!! But that seems to have stopped now. If I go out now I daren't look at anyone because even if you glance round the crowd if you catch someones eye you get accused of looking at them and a fist in your mouth. :-(

It makes me so mad because it ruins it for everyone who doesn't like to go out looking for a fight.:mad:
- By CherylS Date 30.05.07 11:30 UTC
It's not new behaviour though is it?  I went out with a boyfriend who was bottled when he stepped in to try and break up a fight.  Scars left on his face were horrendous. This happened back in the mid 1970s.

The local nightclub had fights breaking out every week and a couple of nights we were herded out for about an hour in the freezing cold while the police did a drugs raid.  This was still back in the 1970s.
- By brak3n [gb] Date 30.05.07 15:01 UTC
I refuse to accept such behaviour as 'normal'.
I agree though, a lot of the time it seems to be closely connected to how the people have been raised as children :(
- By CherylS Date 30.05.07 15:18 UTC
I agree it's not normal behaviour or else most of us would be doing it.  It probably has got something to do with how people are brought up but more likely to do with consumption of alcohol or both.  Certainly alcohol seems to be the most influencing factor.  As alcohol consumption increases so does the incidence of aggressive acts.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 30.05.07 17:48 UTC
Alcohol doesn't cause aggression in non-aggressive people. It releases a person's inhibitions and shows their true nature. Most people wouldn't dream of 'bottling' a person or getting into a fight no matter how drunk they were - so it's the person's upbringing and character that's at fault, not the alcohol.
- By CherylS Date 30.05.07 18:05 UTC
I agree they are going to be aggressive in nature anyway but the point I was trying to make (poorly) was that alcohol is a factor in many serious violent attacks in clubs, bars and similar.  Take away the alcohol and you will reduce the number of serious aggressive acts of a similar nature.
- By craigles [gb] Date 30.05.07 19:24 UTC
this is not meant for anyone in particular but this all seems to stem back to a childs upbringing.  I'm a little puzzled with this as I have four children and they are all so different but have been brought up the same, my eldest has had his problems believe me by not always being on the right side of the law, (touching wood) he now appears to have come out on the right side but he's 24 now and for a good few years I questionned my parenting abilities and wondered where I went wrong.  One of my daughters friends is unable to walk the street in our town at the moment as her brother has committed a horrible crime, she has another brother so therefore one of her family is a terrible person but she and her brother are suffering the consequence and they were all brought up the same.  It jus amazes me how an upbringing is always blamed.  You can nurture but sometimes nature takes over?? In residential care it's often only one wild child of the family rather than the whole family who are taken into care for their behaviour.  I do believe however that in certain cases this can be true but not always.
- By Teri Date 30.05.07 11:58 UTC
Awful thing to happen Mary but not restricted to this era - some places (as in venues rather than locations) attract a less desirable element but of course we tend not to know that unless regularly going out :(

In Glasgow city centre there are a host of different clubs to suit very different clients and my daughter regularly goes to a few of them but there are others she'd never consider because fighting and/or drug problems are known to be the norm.  Glasgow at one time appeared to have shed it's "no mean city" tag but in the last couple of years there have been numerous reports of gang fights, stabbings and an increasing number of incidents involving fire arms - although far and away the majority of serious crime here appears to take place in poorer areas bordering the city centre than in the town itself.  Of course Glasgow is by no means alone in these issues - most if not all major cities will be suffering the same apparently random incidents of extreme behaviours but thankfully we should remember to keep things in perspective as while these instances are not unheard of they are nevertheless not a common occurence of a typical weekend outing.

Hope you're not too shaken by it, that the attacker is duly prosecuted and that the victim makes a full recovery :)

regards, Teri
- By Lissie-Lou [gb] Date 30.05.07 14:20 UTC
Nothing shocks me anymore :mad:

Same kind of thing happened to my brother and his friends.  A gang of young lads walked into a pub where my brother and his friend were having a quiet drink - brother and his friend decided to go into the beer garden as the lads were getting a bit gobby in the bar.  These lads followed them, glassed my bro's friend, bro tried to stop them and he got glassed too.  They both needed stitches, and his friend was in a bad way for a while,even after his injuries healed up he was afraid to go out. 

It's a sick world.
- By abbymum [gb] Date 30.05.07 15:21 UTC
It is supposed to be a normal thing to happen in the club, I dont normally go there as I know there are usually fights but I have never seen anyone get bottled before. It will be the last time I ever go there unless its a private party.
Topic Other Boards / Foo / shocked at human behaviour

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