If you could set a maximum of 5 rules for anywhere be it the World at large. Your Country. Your Town.

What would they be, Life according to your rules?

Better parenting; no alcohol; less spare cash to waste on unnecessary items (after paying for necessities :D ); limits on travel so that people stay at home more and play a better part in their communities and no terrorism (some hope) :) :)

Daisy

1.       With rights come responsibility - if people won't take responsibility, they get no rights!

2.        Respect - everyone (and everything) is entitled to receive respect - which also means everyone gives respect.

3.        Television :   limited to 4 hours per 24 (you can choose when) :)

4. & 5    To be decided at a later time ..........

Margot

>Respect - everyone (and everything) is entitled to receive respect - which also means everyone gives respect.

Even terrorists, child molesters and murderers?

>Even terrorists, child molesters and murderers?

But due to everyone giving respect you wouldn't have these people ;)

So you are saying that these people are only like that because they don;t get respect? ;) I don't think that is the case somehow....

No I wasn't thinking that but can see how you thought it....Lets try and explain what I really ment! :D

as this is more of a "fantasy" (wrong word really) thread then if everyone was to give respect....people such as murderers would give respect and therefore wouldn't commit crime!

Maybe I should just shut up....I'm confusing  myself....Damm Uni parties..... :D

Lets ban alcohol first so I can have a straight head! :D

Difficult - but at what point do you decide that someone doesn't deserve respect ?? I don't respect (really) people who get drunk, speed in their cars, use a mobile whilst driving etc etc etc but do they deserve to be treated without respect ?? We've all got our faults :D

Daisy

As a basic rule of thumb I tend to not  respect people who refuse to follow the laws and rules of the country that I am in at the time. That is a personal opinion of course ...and my point was that it is impossible to respect everybody at all times ...unless we all become plastic people of course ;)

Totally agree with you, Mel :) Just depends what exactly one means by respect :) In this country everyone is entitled, for example, to have a fair trial and to receive certain basic rights etc etc etc - I would expect everyone to receive this sort of respect - we shouldn't believe in lynch mobs and the law of the gutter to deal with these people. However, I certainly wouldn't respect people, such as law breakers, as people to be examples for my children :) :)

Daisy

Rule One:  If you do a crime such as murder, child abuse, animal abuse, rape etc and you are PROVED to be guility, then you are sentenced to death.
Rule Two. Make cars that do not exceed the speed limit, for example only tune the engines of cars to only go up to 70mph and bring in a new device that slows down your car when the speed limit changes in different areas.
Rule Three. Bring in an RSPCA that are able to arrest people on the spot that are cruel to animals, and to monitor and deal with puppy farms and any form of animal cruelty in a better way so that the public are more aware of what is happening.
Rule Four. Have stronger deciepline within schools, and educate children more on the 'birds N the Bees' and also teach a foreign language in primary schools.

Not finished putting the world to rights yet so will be back with more of MY RULES! :D

>Have stronger deciepline within schools, and educate children more on the 'birds N the Bees'

Parents should do this . We did with our children ...I have never thought this was a responsibility of the schools (like the discipline thing ..if more parents disciplined their children properly from an early age, there would be less reason to have MORE discipline in schools ;) )

JMHO

I agree with you Melodysk, decipline should start at home with the parents, but if this is lacking like it is at present in some households, then the teachers have the children in their care for 6 or so hours a day, and the child tells a teacher to F///k Off or worse  what is the teacher allowed to do? nothing otherwise the teacher is then sued for abuse, and if the school exspells  a naughty child from their school, then that child MAY turn into a criminal. it is a very round about thing I understand but surely bring in better decipline at schools is not a bad thing

But it is entirely pointless giving stronger, disciplinary powers to teachers while lots of parents don't agree with them and don't back up the teachers :( :( :( As Mel says, it HAS to start at home

Daisy

Parents should do this . We did with our children Re: child discipline

I'll never forget when I was at my old primary school summer fair and a mother was stood behind me with her two 4 year old twins, saying how unruly they were and she was looking forward to them starting school for some discipline. I totaly agree it starts and stays at home, school is to enhance and teach not parent.

It seems to be happening a lot though, I'm still close to my primary school headmistress and she has said to me the children are starting there worse and worse behaviour wise. :-(

1. Alcohol limits (So I don't wake up next week with a hangover like I did this week!)
2. Death penalty brought back.
3. Dogs only to be bred under strict guidelines to improve a breed and therefore put a stop to all puppy farmers and backstreet breeders.
4. Bring down university fee's
5. Make as many towns as possible Garden Cities (I really miss have grass and trees on nearly every road that I get back home.  Living in a city now I really miss trees)

>Rule One:  If you do a crime such as murder, child abuse, animal abuse, rape etc and you are PROVED to be guility, then you are sentenced to death

I would leave the UK if that was ever bought back ...I cant help it ..I KNOW it can be a deterrent but I can't help remembering all the miscarriages of justice over the years ...and 2 wrongs can't make a right ..can it?

But surely, if a convicted murder was put in prison for 20 years say, and then gets released for 'good behaviour' or because the prison is full to the brim who is to say this criminal would not murder again?
As we all know murdering and rape for example is a crime, why do people do it? because IMO they are sick in the head or don't give a dame, so lets put others that may be thinking of doing these crimes in the picture of its not any easy life if you do these crimes and sentence the buggers to death, one it would make criminals think twice about doing something like this, and also save on space in prisons etc

But what IF someone somewhere made a mistake? What if it was your son or daughter ? *Shudders* I just can't ......I seriously believe that countries that impose a death penalty are as crime ridden as we are here in the UK ..so I cant see that it makes a damned bit of difference to most people :(

Okay ...so I have played D's A for a few people ..I better put my money where my mouth is and see what you make of mine I suppose LOL

1. No violence except on a sports field (where permitted as in rugby/boxing/hockey etc etc LOL)

2. People need to pass a test to become parents *Snigger* Bet I would have failed :D

3. No marriage before the age of 25...at all! :D :D

4. No abortion unless there is a GOOD reason such as r*pe/underage/doctors opinion (this is what the law says at the moment but in practise you can get an abortion virtually anytime) etc etc ...ANY girl getting pregnant and not wishing to keep the baby should be housed schooled and supported if the parents can't do it until the baby is born and then it should be adopted. Also, the father should be made to contribute to the cost ...if he is still at school then he would be made to help with the cost once he had a job

5. Anyone on the dole refusing to do a job when offered should be immediately refused any and all financial aid from the state (unless on a Doctors advice of course).

*Laugh*

Oh I could go on and on ...but I won't :) Go on then ...my turn for the high jump ..I bet half of those arent too popular :D Oh and I am talking from experience on virtually all of those

Love 3. :D  Did you want to be evil and put no sex before marriage in aswell...That shall cancel out number 4. :D

I thought about it .....but then I thought ....nah :D :D

You don't want to be too evil then?

Though I must ask....Why no marriage before 25? :D

People are far too young to get married before 25 :D :D You have to do everything that you can only do when you are single before you get married :D :D

Daisy (who got married at 25 :D :D )

But Daisy how can you judge that?

Rox (Who's taken Mel's role of D A)

>>People are far too young to get married before 25

On the whole yes...

says she who married at 16 ;)

Because despite thinking that you know it all before the age of 25 ...you don't :D, after that age you tend to realise that you dont LOL

LOLOL - I think that you've hit the nail on the head there, Mel :D :D :D

Daisy

I do I do I do..... I know everything!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Ok Ok maybe I don't!

*runs and hides for being the obnoxious under 25 year old!*

OK - I've been out sunning myself since putting the fat into the fire, so that's why I didn't defend my first three rules :D

1.     I had been assuming that these rules were the rules for Utopia .... in which case there would be no child molestation etc.   However, in my book, as the child molesters/rapists have shown no respect for their victims, they are entitled to no respect and as they have not been responsible in their actions, they have no rights!   So - lock -em up and throw away the key ....or better still, leave the child molesters in a room with the victim's mother, aunts and grandmothers..............

2.     Parenting classes to be an essential part of pregnancy care - no maternity cash benefits unless these classes are attended (and an acceptable level of understanding shown).

Still thinking about the others - but Mel - I agree - no marriage before 25 - so does that mean I'm off the hook (having married at 20 - would your Rules mean that I am really FREE? :D :D )

Margot

Hell yes Margot ...go for it :D :p

After all, having married in 1963 (at 20 years & 17 days ;) ) I've served longer than the Great Train Robbers......and I'm still waiting for the loot!!!

If thats right then I am free also as I married at 21!!!  Cool I am just off to pack the man that thinks hes my husbands bags for him and kick him out!!  Yeppeeeeee! :D :D :D :D

I'm not packing bags ......just getting on the running shoes :D :D

Ok where was I
Rule Five I think: due to the dispute about bringing back the death penalty maybe this would work:

If you murder someone then you are to be killed in the same way
If you Rape someone your private parts are to be removed and a tag placed on you, like a microchp so that you can be indentified in different areas
If you abuse children then you are to be put to death or microchipped and imprisoned and once out, the microchip will allow people to know if you are a child abuser as in if you applied for a job in a school etc:

I will be back with more! :D

NOOOOooooo ..... (*laughs*) , if someone stabbed someone in order to kill them, who on EARTH would you employ to do that to them?

Okay okay ...Im stopping now :D :D

> If you murder someone then you are to be killed in the same way

Who would you get to carry the sentence out ????

Daisy

I am just making the rules here, I haven't thought that far!! :D:D
Perhaps the relatives of the murdered person? Or maybe just have the Elec Chair?

1: an eye for an eye- you rape, murder, molest ect you have just voided ur life (if proven with out a doubt) use these people for animal testing (what better specimen then our own kind) instead of poor inocent animals- inject them with aids and find a cure- put soap in their eye's- ect.
2: bar age 21
3: driving 18
4: dog owners should have to take an obedience class in order to own dogs...
5: People on social services (money givin from government) should be forced after 2 children to go out and get a job and provide for themselves- here it's a big thing people just living off social services and keep having kids...

Most of my rules would be too restricting :D but 2 I'd want at once would be a total ban on alcohol and tobacco and a total ban of football!

OK mine are

1. No one is allowed in my Utopia without my permission
2.Anyone found trespassing in my Utopia will be attacked by geese, dexter cows or llamas!!!!
3. The sun will shine for a minimum of 8 hours a day
4. It must rain for an hour each day to water my utopian garden and clear the air
5. there will be no bugs insects or creepy crawlies within 10 feet of me at any time

Now you can all come and visit and bring your dogs but you must get written permission first - no gatecrashers - see rules 1& 2

:D :D

Dakkaobear lmao :D Thats a good one :D

OK here goes-

1.Death penalty remains illegal as judicial murder is only slightly less repulsive than the actual murder.

2. Anyone going on about youth of today etc needing thrashing should be ( an exception to the rule itself ) thrashed themselves first to see if it stops them whingeing

3 We all need to increase our carbon footprint to improve the weather.

4 Those who constantly say " it wasnt like this in my day" should be given a pair of rose-tinted specs to remind them that it was just the same then.

5 There is No rule 5 ( For Monty Python afficionados only)

I can feel the flames warming from here..

Regards

Rod

We all need to increase our carbon footprint to improve the weather.

I've heard this phrase before but what exactly is a carbon footprint ? 
I've always been under the impression that God controls the weather :)

A 'carbon footprint' is basically the amount of pollution we cause in our lifetime - the smaller the footprint the better. The weather changes due to the chemical composition of the atmosphere. What to some people is improvement means death to others.

..I'm still confused - why would we want to increase our 'carbon footprint' if the 'smaller the better'

I think that Rod is being just a tad sarcastic/provocative :D :D :D :D

Daisy

don't actually mean sarcastic - but I've got to rush back to work and can't think of the right word :D :D :D

To increase global warming and increase the temperature! ;)

Thoughtless people would like to make our weather here warmer and drier. It does mean, however, that other populated areas of the world become deserts, or drowned under rising sea levels, resulting in millions of deaths.

> I've always been under the impression that God controls the weather

With just a little help from mankind :D :D :D

Daisy