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Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / Adult food?
- By jakesmum [gb] Date 08.01.07 14:43 UTC
Can I give me 9mth old CKCS adult food? Or just keep hime on the puppy stuff (he is on JWB).
- By JaneG [gb] Date 08.01.07 14:50 UTC
Yes :)

I change my collies over to adult food at around 7/8 months, it's only the borzois that stay on it longer as giant breeds are still growing quite quickly at that age.
- By Missie Date 08.01.07 14:54 UTC
I never give mine puppy food over 6 months :)
- By jakesmum [gb] Date 08.01.07 16:02 UTC
Super, thank you.
- By Ktee [us] Date 10.01.07 00:39 UTC

>I change my collies over to adult food at around 7/8 months, it's only the borzois that stay on it longer as giant breeds are still growing quite quickly at that age.


Isnt puppy food supposed to be avoided for large breed pups,to avoid them growing too quickly?If anything i would have thought you'de do things the other way round... Just curious :)
- By Missie Date 10.01.07 09:26 UTC

>Isnt puppy food supposed to be avoided for large breed pups,to avoid them growing too quickly?<


That's why I changed mine over at 6 months, when they were fed kibble ;)
- By JaneG [gb] Date 10.01.07 13:13 UTC
I always think that Borzois need the higher protein, extra calcium etc in puppy food Ktee, and after 20 years of keeping them on puppy food till they were 18 months it certainly hasn't done them any harm, in fact every adult I've campaigned has won at least one CC ;)
- By jas Date 10.01.07 14:45 UTC
I do the same with the deerhounds and IWs. As long as they don't get overweight, I don't belive that higher protein / puppy food 'forces' large and giant breeds. They simply metabolise any protein they don't require for growth.
- By Ktee [us] Date 11.01.07 01:32 UTC
Jas it's the calcium you need to watch in the regular puppy foods,not the protein :) You will notice that the calcium in Adult foods and large breed puppy foods is lower than in regular puppy foods.

>in fact every adult I've campaigned has won at least one CC


Sorry you've lost me on that comment... What has this got to do with bone growth etc ,puppy/adult food :)
- By RRfriend [se] Date 11.01.07 05:09 UTC

>in fact every adult I've campaigned has won at least one CC


Since winning a CC is even more difficult in England, then in the FCI countries, where I compete, I would imagine any dog worthy of a CC must be of the highest standard conformation wise, have an exellent bone structure and great movement. Traits that will not be above average in a dog that's been fed inapropriate food while growing up.
The calcium/phosphor (sp?) balance and amount, is very important to growing dogs, all recent studies seem to point to that. But lately not just different sizes of dogs have different puppy food, even the different breeds are getting their own variety of food.
So if a breeder that's been successfully breeding for so many years, feel satisfied her feedingregime is right for her breed, and have results to show for it, I think he/she is probably on the right track :p
Karen
- By JaneG [gb] Date 11.01.07 06:09 UTC
The proof of the pudding is in the eating Ktee ;)

RRfriend has made the point very well above (Thanks Karen :) ). Anyone can read a few websites/books and make some decisions about feeding, feeding a couple of generations of dogs that way then proves if those decisions were good ones or not :D
- By lovezois [gb] Date 11.01.07 10:56 UTC
Hi Jane  long time no speak.

Have to agree with you re the borzois they need  to be on Puppy  longer for the reasons you have  stated.
Eunice
- By JaneG [gb] Date 11.01.07 15:28 UTC
and see how well it's worked for your young lad Eunice - he's a prime example of good feeding :)
- By jas Date 11.01.07 15:32 UTC
Pups growing a the rate borzois, IWs and deerhounds do, they need calcium. It does not cause a problem as long as the Ca:K balance is correct as it will be in a quality puppy food. The problems arise when people home cook or home don't cook and have no notion what the Ca:K balance of what they feed is.

I'd have thought chamsong meant that borzois with a CC have grown normally and well.
- By Ktee [us] Date 12.01.07 00:21 UTC

>Ca:K balance of what they feed is.


Whats the K stand for? Calcium has to balance with phosphorus.

>I would imagine any dog worthy of a CC must be of the highest standard conformation wise, have an exellent bone structure and great movement. Traits that will not be above average in a dog that's been fed inapropriate food while growing up.


Sorry completely off topic,but how would you explain those dogs that have won cc's and were brought up on foods like pedigree etc?Which most people know is one of the worst foods around...
- By jas Date 12.01.07 00:26 UTC
Sorry - was having a senior moment. Obviously I mean Ca:Ph
- By Teri Date 12.01.07 00:59 UTC

>how would you explain those dogs that have won cc's and were brought up on foods like pedigree etc?


Errm, the food suited them :) 

OK, Pedigree is not my preferred choice of diet either BUT, and it's a big BUT, many a dog has lived a long, healthy, happy, disease free life fed on what some of us wouldn't compromise a compost heap with :D

>Which most people know is one of the worst foods around...


Oh Ktee, it's probably the most used complete food out there because it's been on the supermarket shelves longer than any other as well as splashed all over TV screens for decades.   Taking a more realistic stance IMO, I'd say most people - i.e. the average family pet dog owner - think (rightly or wrongly) that it's the best food around :)

regards, Teri
Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / Adult food?

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