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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Humping CKCS
- By jakesmum [gb] Date 29.12.06 12:52 UTC
I have a 9 mth old CKCS (male), he won't stop humping every thing. I have to make sure all my daughters teddys are put up or the get a good seeing to :eek:.
He doesn't do it to me or my husband, but wil try it on with my boys (7 and 4). Every time I see him 'at it' I tell him no very sturnly. He will stop for a while then he will just try again.
If we have family around he try's it on with them too. He is intact and I would rather not castrate him, any tips to getting him to stop or is it just a teenage thing he will grow out off?
- By luvhandles Date 29.12.06 13:06 UTC
Hiya,
I had the same problem with my CKCS Harvey from around four months.....he was a nightmare but to add to it, he started cocking his leg everywhere - even indoors:eek: I gave up when he was nine months old when he was castrated at the time of his hernia op and to be honest I have never looked back. I have been very lucky though as his coat has remained exactly the same - silky and beautiful, I was dreading him losing that and ending up thick and wolly. I do have to watch his diet very carefully now because he does put weight on really easily but other than that I am happy I made the decision as it has completely stopped all 'that' behaviour. I am by no means advising you to have your baby done, just letting you know of my experience and I am sure that somebody will be along soon with excellent training advice.

Hayley
- By ClaireyS Date 29.12.06 13:57 UTC
my mums friend had her ckcs neutered and it didnt stop him humping, but he did put on loads of weight and his coat went all wooly :(
- By Cavifan [gb] Date 29.12.06 14:10 UTC
Hi, both my CKCS have been castrated who are now 4 1/2 and 3 1/2 and this stopped them from marking everywhere and also seemed to stop the older CKCS humping soft toys.  I also have no problem with their fur being curly and woolly - its still silky and long although I do have to watch their weight.  Although I am not saying you should get yours castrated, there are other advantages in that it can prevent testicular cancer later on in life.

It may be that your CKCS is trying to dominate things/people by humping but I am not sure how to stop this behaviour apart from making sure you and your family are seen as dominant leaders.  I have found Jan Fennell (The Dog Listener) very useful in sorting out this kind of behaviour.  She has various books out on the subject and her first book is very good.
- By Goldmali Date 29.12.06 14:57 UTC
Dogs don't hump to dominate anyone or anything. :) They have no plans to dominate all the cushions in the world for instance. :D

Castrated dogs may well hump as well -two of mine do and the worst humper is a spayed bitch. I had my Papillon castrated as he was humping my cavalier to excess, and with such a bad heart, it was important the Cav wasn't stressed. It helped somewhat, but he still does it when he gets excited about something, say visitors arriving. We simply distract him then and he stops.
- By Val [gb] Date 29.12.06 15:10 UTC
They have no plans to dominate all the cushions in the world for instance.

That's made me LOL!!! :D
- By Val [gb] Date 29.12.06 14:15 UTC
At his age, he's behaving like an adolescent boy because his hormones are raging around his body.:eek:  Give them chance to settle and most entire dogs will settle down to a completely as*xual life in the home without having to resort to removing his t*sticles and his normal level of hormones, which are a very important part of bodily functions, especially while growing. :)

I would distract him with training or taking him out for a walk when he's having a problem.  Shame we can't do the same with teenage boys! :D

A woolly Cavalier coat is much more difficult to maintain and most groomers will just clip it all off because the owners can't manage it.  If you see a fat Cavalier walking along the road with no coat, you can be sure he's been castrated! :(
- By carene [in] Date 29.12.06 14:36 UTC
I had both my Cavalier boys castrated - their coats remained beautiful and silky, and they never put on any excess weight. It also stopped the "randy" one of the two humping his brother and marking the patio door curtains...:rolleyes: They had  very happy lives and lived to 111/2 and 14 1/2. :-)
- By Cavifan [gb] Date 29.12.06 15:54 UTC
It is a fact that dogs sometimes hump as an act of dominance.  Please see this article which I have found about humping:

http://www.petplace.com/dogs/humping/page1.aspx
- By Val [gb] Date 29.12.06 15:57 UTC
Who is Dr Jon?  :confused:
- By ClaireyS Date 29.12.06 17:42 UTC
sometimes dogs hump as an act of dominance, but the consistent humping of anything and everything is more a hormone thing
- By Goldmali Date 29.12.06 23:44 UTC
If it's a HORMONE thing, how do you explain neutered dogs and bitches humping? :rolleyes: My worst humper, spayed bitch, is very much at the BOTTOM of the pack and she most definitely isn't trying to dominate anyone. :)
- By Moonmaiden Date 29.12.06 17:45 UTC
Duno but the author of the piece's speciality is"Pharmacologic control of animal behavior problem" says it al really
- By karenclynes [gb] Date 29.12.06 19:14 UTC
You can't say something like that is a fact based on one article :-) Even experts in the field state theories based on a lot of eveidence.

In nature, the dominant dog is the one who get the privilege of breeding receptive bitches. It is not "first come, first served" but truly a contest of mental and physical strength

The above section from the article is true of wolves - dogs have an entirely different genetic make up to wolves and are compeletely different animals and dominace and pack heirarchys that are evident in wolf packs are not applicable to domestic dogs!

Karen
- By Ktee [us] Date 30.12.06 01:30 UTC

>dogs have an entirely different genetic make up to wolves and are compeletely different animals and dominace and pack heirarchys that are evident in wolf packs are not applicable to domestic dogs!


Some may agree,others will disagree and say that dogs arent that far removed from wolves at all.Afterall they still have the digestive system that thrives on raw meat and bone.I am a firm believer in that we have have managed to change the outward appearance of our dogs,but they are still wolves in cavs or sheeps clothing ;)
- By tohme Date 30.12.06 11:26 UTC
At 9 months old your dog is one large hormone and, like teenagers of all species, does not have an outlet for it.

Humping occurs in many species including cows etc and has absolutely nothing to do with "dominance" :rolleyes: in 99.99% of cases but just excitement.  A lot of bitches do it too and can be a sign over being OTT.

Your dog will level out in a few months time and during the interim remove anything "humpable", if he starts doing it to people just tell them to stand up and walk away.  It will soon extinguish.

Not sure why you do not want to castrate him, it won't change anything about him except perhaps change his coat.  But that is entirely (hee hee) up to you.
- By roz [gb] Date 30.12.06 12:15 UTC Edited 30.12.06 12:19 UTC
There's some excellent articles that debunk the dominance myth but for sure, castration is never a sure fire cure for humping. One of the most determined humpers I know was castrated at 9 months and celebrated the recovery from his operation by what can only be described as a "humpfest". A situation that hasn't improved over the months since!

And while 9 months is an age when the testosterone runs wild through the teenage dog loins, humping can occur much earlier and is not confined to male dogs. The best way I've found to deal with unwanted botherings of inappropriate objects has been a firm "no" followed by a distraction. It's also important to take the things you don't want him to hump away if this is practical so, if his particular desire is focussed on soft toys, remove 'em!!

However, I do permit Nips to give his bed a thorough seeing-to during the 10 o'clock news provided this takes place in the privacy of the kitchen. The seeing-to, that is. Not the news. And so far, most other dog beds have yet to fall victim to any sort of Jack Russell cunning world domination plot.
- By Missie Date 30.12.06 17:59 UTC

>However, I do permit Nips to give his bed a thorough seeing-to during the 10 o'clock news provided this takes place in the privacy of the kitchen. The seeing-to, that is. Not the news. And so far, most other dog beds have yet to fall victim to any sort of Jack Russell cunning world domination plot<


Oh roz, that did make me laugh :D :D
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