You know it's part of a judges requirement after they've judged to submit a critique to the dog press after judging at championship show level, do we know what the 'consequences' are if no submission goes in?

My own breed has only had critiques in 2006 for Crufts (And the judge lost her notes so it was just all her placings) and SKC.  We're still waiting for WELKS, Birmingham, our club championship show, Three Counties, Border Union, Bath, Blackpool and Windsor - ok with the last few it's not long after the event but surely our breed can't be that unlucky?    However there are some judges who's critiques are sometimes in the same week the show was held or the issue after so if they can manage it?

I wonder whether it's something the breed clubs could try to police. Maybe if judges thought that they might have some sort of punnishment brought to bear on them, they might be more inclined to play the game.

It's a long standing and often discussed problem, and everyone you speak to seems to have the same opinion,''isn't it annoying when the critique never appears''.

Mind you sometimes they are worth the wait if they do eventually appear, my Veteran Irish Setter had a lovely win at a breed club show in April, and the critique only appeared last week July 7th. It is probably the best write up of his career.

Dawn R.

It's infuriating when crits fail to appear - often as not from judges who seem to write or dictate 1000's of words per placing :rolleyes:

My own breed clubs remove the names from our judging lists of those who fail to provide a critique at a champ show (I think open show judges, certainly within the breed, are more than eager to submit crits)

There was a KC directive last year some time re critiques having to be published in at least one of the weekly dog papers and there was mention of action being taken if not adhered to but memory fails me as to the exact wording.  It will be somewhere on my hard drive from the KC press office so I'll try and find it.

Judges who for a valid reason miss the acceptable deadline of the dog press could still forward their critiques to the relevant breed club(s) for inclusion in their newsletters etc - so not really much excuse IMO.

Some judges (more the high profile multi breed, group, BIS ilk) are often provided with facilities to compile and submit their critiques while still at the show - hence why they appear fastest in the dog papers.

regards, Teri  

Teri, 'high profile' judges at Champ Shows are not provided with any more facilities to help with their critiques than anyone else, they gat a catalogue and print out.

breed clubs can take action, write to the judges concerned and ask why, also write to the KC na dreport the offenders.

I understand a problem is that many of the contracts to judge at the champ shows currently being held were made before the KC brought in their new ruling, so they may be unable to act - but nothing to stop a breed club taking action.

Often though the dog papers can take up to 2 months from receiving a critique to publishing it.

Interested to know how the offenders balance out between breed judges and all rounders - in my breed is is the breed judges that are at fault.

Sorry Christine, I don't mean to pull you up on it, but WELKS has been in Dog World recently. However I do agree with you about the others. I don't remember seeing any of them. I haven't been to many shows so it makes very interesting reading sometimes. Are they judging the same dogs every time? ;)

What issue?  I haven't seen it, just SKC.

May 19th. Ok, not so recently ;) I just re-read it the other day which is why I knew it had been out. :)

Edited to add: Page 32! :D

>'high profile' judges at Champ Shows are not provided with any more facilities to help with their critiques than anyone else, they gat a catalogue and print out.

at some shows, Crufts & LKA immediately spring to mind but there may well be others, a select few have access to pcs on the day for their crits :)  How else do you suppose that certain judges' crits appear in the dog press when the copy deadline was 48+ hours before?

It's even worse when the judge does critiques on all of the other breeds that they've done but not yours.  This happens quite frequently for import register breeds at Open Shows.  It's as though seeing as we're not worthy enough to go for BIS or BPIS that we're not worthy enough for a critique either

Dont know where you have seen hudges sat at PCs provided by the shows Teri or who you have seen using them, Ive never seen or heard of this. Some of our top judges actually hand write their critiques in the ring as they go along (as i do) which is why they get them into the press so quickly.

I have before now judged on the Sat, posted crit Mon, to be in that next issue - think the papers leave so much space in each issue for crits on that week's show.

But no one has a special advantage over anyone else in terms of support available.

We're in exactly the same position with our breed - absolutely nothing in the papers from Welks onwards.   I don't know if it makes a difference that the judges have been all-rounders rather than breed specialist judges - maybe they don't have as much time to submit reports but whatever the reason, it is very annoying

according to the kennel club, there has only been a handfull of complaints about judges not putting in the critiques in the papers etc, so maybe breed clubs should start getting their members to let them know when the critiques have not appeared and to start badgering the kc and let them know.
or maybe individuals could all start emailing or phoning and asking why they have not appeared in the paper, if everyone say was to do this on a wednesday the kc might get the message that people are not happy and do something about it they make the rules so they should make sure the judges abide by them.
i am still waiting like the rest of you from april for a couple of shows and it is so frustrating but what else can we do.
carol