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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Jumping
- By Razor Edge Khan [gb] Date 26.05.06 15:30 UTC
Any time my dog sees another human he jumps on then and starts licking and play biting with their hand. Some people do not like this, so i tell him no. But then you get those few who love it and start speaking in that high picthed voice, he then just goes mad jumping , biting, licking, peeing. I tell him to stop then i person would say no no its alright.

Is their any other way of him learning that this is bad?

ps. i aplogise if i have offended any1 with my behavior but life goes on, i will personally aplogse to each who i have offended. REPLIES ARE WELCOMED AND WILL BE APPRECIATED.
- By HuskyGal Date 26.05.06 15:35 UTC
Fair play ;)

I found this with my 'Love-everyone-and-everyone-should adore and fuss me" Siberian!! :D

Found best way (as strangers kept encouraging him.."aw its ok he's lovely!!) was to enlist several friends to act as stooges and walk past us in the park,paying him no attention..till he walked calmly past and then moving on to the meet and greet (where they were pre briefed to turn their back on him if he went loopy but to reward if he was calm)
Takes quite a few friends tho' had to keep rotating them to keep fur face on his toes!
HTH
Good Luck :)
- By Razor Edge Khan [gb] Date 26.05.06 15:36 UTC
thank you very much, that has really helped. I shall be making a trip to the park later today, hopefully he will learn this way.

TY
- By HuskyGal Date 26.05.06 15:45 UTC

>But to reward if he was calm<


oop! meant to say (just incase its not obvious,appologies if it is) the reward is attention (dont let them give the treats, your the treatgiver!! :D)
- By Annie ns Date 26.05.06 16:07 UTC
Think it might also be worth asking people not to encourage him to jump up by telling them you are trying to train him not to.  They probably won't be so pleased if he does it when he's covered in mud or knocks them flying. :)
- By Tenaj [gb] Date 26.05.06 15:44 UTC Edited 26.05.06 15:47 UTC
I was about to start a thread about this kind of behaviour.

I was thinking about this as it's a type of topic that crops up a lot on this board.  It's very difficult juggling so many different type of people and different types of dogs when you go out on walk but I was thinking if it wasn't for the heaps of lovely friendly dogs who've rushed up to me and jumped on me and drooled all over me during the bulk of my my emptly life before dogs existance I would never have got us a dog at all.  I've always enjoyed greeting and fussing other peoples dogs and in the end five years ago we decided we enjoyed these dogs so much we'd get one of our own. And we've never looked back. So yes some people do really love it very much. In the past I could never have a dog and I really appreciaated being able to share some of the pleasure of other peoples dogs.  So although our dogs do need to learn manners we do also need to remember to have fun.

I find one of mine is very people friendly and that is one aspect of the breed that attracted us...and even now at 18 months old she will bounce and jump up to people who carry dog treats or who speak kindly to her but she will ignore the people who ignore her...providing they are not eating something nice ;).  They do soon learn who to say hi to. Most people are becomming aware tat ideally they should only fuss the dog in a sit or 4 legs on the ground and know not to encourage play mouthing so it should be okay to insist on those rules with people who love your dog too much. You can always tell them he is training to be a therapy dog and must learn to be friendly gently so could they help you by only petting him in a sit.
- By Razor Edge Khan [gb] Date 26.05.06 15:47 UTC
thank you
- By Emma mum of poj [gb] Date 26.05.06 19:11 UTC
My puppy was a devil for jumping up and because she's a puppy everyone says 'oh fon't worry, she's so cute' etc.  My concern was that she'd develop a habit of jumping up ad when she's fully grown I'm sure she would be able to knock people over.  I tried saying 'no' and rewarding her for not jumping up but felt I was maming very slow/no progress.  I was especially concerned as we have lots of small children and elderly in the family and I didn't want anyone getting hurt.

My puppy trainer recommended a product called 'Pet Corrector' which is basically compressed air in a can about the size of hairspray.  She showed me how to use it which is when Poj comes hurtling towards her and is midway through a jump-up she sprayed the can behind her back so Poj could hear this strange and startling sound.  It stopped her jumping up. She now never/rarely jumps up and we've only been using it a week, I've proably only used it about ten times in total - each time with new people so she realises it happens all the time.  

The reason I like this method is because it doesn't hurt or frighten Poj, it just startles her and distracts her from jumping up.  I now just have to make a hiss noise with my mouth if she looks tempted to jump up and she doesn't.  Immediately after using it I have praised her for sitting and given her a treat for doing the right thing.

I'm a bit wary of posting this in case someone replies in a hostile way, I just wanted to pass this on as it worked for me.  I hope you find something that works for you.
- By Dogz Date 26.05.06 19:38 UTC
Ah please dont worry about hostility, all views are welcomed by me and I am sure most people too.
Most people only want to be helpful with the welfare of dogs being priority. so chin up and be brave knowing your view is as valid as the next persons.
- By Razor Edge Khan [gb] Date 26.05.06 20:07 UTC
that is a fantastic invention, i will definately research 1
- By TrishaH [gb] Date 26.05.06 21:40 UTC
Emma, So pleased to read your post.
We've been trying unsuccessfully for weeks to stop our puppy jumping up at everyone, and also hurling herself at me mainly and nipping. Also, at least once a day, for half and hour or more, she hurtles all over the house quite madly, leaping up and nipping as she goes, and she's getting quite big now.
Husband had abdominal surgery this week, and I was desperate to find a way to stop this behaviour, so ordered one of the Pet Corrector cans. The can stated not to use until instructions had been read, but none were sent with it, so I'm glad to read that the basic pictorial instruction on the can is self explanatory - I assume that's what they refer to as 'instructions'. Thanks.

Razor Edge Khan - thanks for starting the thread.
- By Emma mum of poj [gb] Date 27.05.06 05:57 UTC
A load of instructions came with mine.  Basically it's important not to aim the spray at the dog, I spray it behind my back so she hears the noise.  Also it's important to praise/reward your dog for something quickly afterwards so they don't think you make a scary noise all the time!  I hope it works for you.  Now I need to find something that stops her pulling on the lead ...:rolleyes:
- By Lindsay Date 27.05.06 06:29 UTC
Can I just point out that some dogs react very badly to this kind of device :).

Gunner on here has a dog who is used to being on the gundog field, so not previously noise sensitive. This dog was startled very badly
by the Corrector being used by someone else further away and if I remember rightly Gunner had a lot of problems afterwards because
of this.

I personally would not recommend them, but if anyone is thinking of going ahead, do ensure your dog is not in anyway noise sensitive and
that there are no other dogs present.

As i said, if i remember rightly, Gunner's dog was not noise sensitive at all but still had a very bad reaction.

I would say use with great caution - a bad experience especially during the first few weeks of getting a pup home could cause problems with noise
for life. There will always be dogs who don't react badly and who sail through life not being bothered by anything, but that is not every dog and it's surprising sometimes which dog will react to this kind of thing.

I would think as well that some dogs would associate it with "whoooshing" fireworks so that wouldn't be a good associatioin to make.

This isn't meant to be a "mean" post :P  I don't do that, but it's got to be said for the dogs'  sake :)

Lindsay
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- By Emma mum of poj [gb] Date 27.05.06 07:11 UTC
Fair enough.  My dog didn't respond to any noise I made - but he did when the cat hissed at him so obviously the hiss works for him.  We tried it outside first so it wasn't so intense.  Maybe if this is a concern you could try some other household spray noise first as a less intense version to see how they respond to it.  Poj was a five month (lab) when we used it.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 27.05.06 11:14 UTC
Yes some dogs respond very badly to aerosols being sprayed on/near them.
- By TrishaH [gb] Date 27.05.06 09:45 UTC
Thanks Emma - I actually got an email just after midnight from the supplier apologising for the missing instructions. He included them in the email. I think the actual distributor has a more comprehensive training leaflet - looks like it on their website.
I did rather gingerly give the can a quick spray behind my back when she began jumping at me this morning - she stopped right away and looked around for the source. I did give her a treat for stopping and she happily got a toy and began playing  :)  - so she doesn't seem sensitive to noise now.
She was sensitive to strange sounds when we got her - even horrified at the sound of a nightingale in the garden!

Apparently, if it's used where the dog can see where the noise is coming from, just the sight of the can becomes a deterrent. Not too sure at this point which method (hidden behind back or visual) would be best. It's obviously not the loudness of the air, but the fact that it does resemble things such as snakes and cats which hiss to ward off predators, and as such is considered a comparitively normal warning off sound to a dog.

I have decided to try this as all other methods have so far failed to stop the particularly hyper episodes which have become quite dangerous to both her and us. She already has hit her head quite hard and cannoned into the walls etc a few times.

Funny about you looking for something to stop her pulling on the lead - I'm doing the same right now! Hope we find a good solution.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 27.05.06 11:11 UTC
I use a water squirter in much the same way with my dogs as a sound does not have the startl;e effect that the water does, in other dogs the water would have no effect.  This really is a variation on the old thrown chain or can of pebbles theme.

These are used as mild aversives, but what is mild for one dog may be quite frightening to another so any of these items need to be used with great care taking tyhe dogs character into account.

The Gas canister hissign might make some dogs frightened of people or even make them dislike strangers, so care shoudl be used to evaluate the dog properly.
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 27.05.06 11:23 UTC
I too have used a water squirter with great success :D

I used an ordinary household spray bottle - recycled Cif bottle I think - obviously wll rinsed out - to stop barking and jumping up.   Now if Loki or Vinnie particularly are getting too excited - I just show them ANY household spray bottle .....immediate bums on floor & no more barking :D :D :D :D

Margot
- By Brainless [gb] Date 27.05.06 11:33 UTC Edited 27.05.06 11:36 UTC
Same here, but I use well rinsed empty Frontline bottles set to squirt.  A small plant spray bottle set to a jet will work well to.

I just say 'right where's that bottle' and they scatter :D

It worked extremely well with my Jozi when she came back to me as an OTT teenager who thought the best fun was to run full tilt at me and grab any available body part.  The more you told ehrt no the more she idd it, so I used to shoot ehr straight in the face.  She woudl come first from front then from side,a dn eventualy sopping wet give in.

I would then call her over for a quiet stroke.
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Jumping

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