Hi again everybody.

AKA Akita_Lee.

Right - for those of you who know me, I have now moved house and have invested in a large kennel & run.

My bitch is in season again - and my male is going nuts - again.

What is the best arrangement to have in operation ? ie male in kennel bitch out etc??

I put the dog in the kennel/run, and he screetched and howled it down. I now have the bitch in the kennel/run she seems fine in there but do I leave the male outside with her , where he can see her etc and they can see eachother - or do I keep the male well away??

As I say the bitch is fine in the kennel but I am trying to find out which is the best place to keep the male for minimal stress/frustration for them both.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

It sounds like your outdoor arrangements are very good Lee, but as your male is clearly quite upset, my advice would be to ask a friend or relative to look after him for the time your bitch is in season. I'd say about four weeks in total.

You may be able to keep them apart physically, but it's the noise and stress that will be the problem, as you are no doubt finding out. So as I say, board him out and give yourself a break. :)

Dawn R.

Thanks Dawn

The only problem is, I have nobody who is able to look after him? Most of my close family have their own pets and it would be anightmare for them to look after a male akita with other animals present, as you can imagine :)

I cannot afford boarding kennels ... especially after having just spent near £1000 having the kennel/run built

I have had to contend with this before - and it is extremely stressful - but it's strange as if I bring them into the living room together, he'll get up and circle her, cry then lie back down and they'll both just go to sleep / or lie next to eachother???? Obviously I know it's rather dangerous to do with regards to a possible mate, but this seems the less stresful option for both me, and the dogs?? As soon as they're not by eachother .... it's murder!

So why the name change? If you have forgotten your password, then email admin if using the request link does not work.

I'm @ home now admin I have myself a computer now :)

It's just that I set my previous account up with my work email address ..... I don't know the password and I would have to wait until a week Monday if I requested it, when I got back to work, as I am on leave now.

Don't have them together, it only takes a second!

If she's happy outside leave her out there and have the boy with you.  When yoiu let him out if it's fencing between him and her you may have to have him on a lead as he could still get to her, they are very clever at working things out and when she's ready she'll try anything for him to mate her :d

Its a huge kennel and a run, which is bolted to the flags, and caged ..... there's no way they can get at eachother :)

Thanks :)

Have you considered through the run wire??????

Dogs have mated through weld mesh runs before today be VERY careful AKITA.

I have found that my Akita is far better if he can actually see the object of his desire. Only time he howls is if I take her out of his sight :rolleyes:
Consequently, I leave both outside BUT there is always an empty run between them - definately not just the fencing.

That empty run will be very useful to put the ensuing pups in!

What ensuing pups?

Yes, be fair Jacky - as long as the wire is tough enough and high enough (and yes, I know it's amazing how determined BOTH dogs can be), then they can't mate through 2 lots of wire with a whole run's width between them!!

When my girl was in season my boy was ok for the first two weeks, then howled and went off his food. My OH took him to work and fed him there as he was fine once he was away from her smell. She was unconcerned throughout, but then it was her first time. :-)

I don't think Jacky's reply was to Anwen, more the poster!!:rolleyes:

You're right Perrodeagua.  Lucy although I know that the dogs probably would be OK in the runs, whilst inside together there is a huge risk that a mating could take place.  I know that once a dog has certain ideas, they can be very forceful and I doubt that Akitas could be separated once the urge had overtaken!

However we intend to fully supervise a bitch in season with a dog, it takes a mere ohnosecond for things to get out of hand making it almost inevitable that puppies will happen.

I would bring boy inside- because if you put him outside- first of all he's dying to get out to get to the bitch and secondly on top of that he's alone too, knowing that the bitch is inside with you.
If you bring him in then hopefully he can be distracted and quieten down, and your girl is outside in kennel in her own space and also the kennel easier to clean too.

Eek yes, don't let them be inside together no matter how closely you're watching. I admit my two were briefly during her first week, but she had her silly knickers on, she was on my lap, and my boy was showing no interest whatsoever. As soon as we got to day 8 or 9 I didn't even risk that, though it wasn't until day 14 that he started the barking and howling game! :-)

How do breeders manage when they have bitches and a male stud dog????
Just intrested.

If they don't have kennels, most only have bitches.

Yep no way could I cope with owning a male too :D  much as I would be tempted to own a boy that lived with me

I keep my dog in the house when I bitch is in season I have a heated grooming room attached to my house that you can't access from the inside.  If I didn't have this myself I would never keep a dog.  He would howl his head off if he was outside.

Jacky,

I tend to agree a big strong dog with get through anything if he wants to.

YEars ago a stray dog distroyed my dining room window trying to get inside to my bitch inside. I had never seen the dog before nor had I walked the dog that day but he smelled her from somewhere and was determined to get her. Had my neighbour not have heard the noise I have not doubt the dog may have gotten in. The dog warden came to the rescue.  When my husband and I came home we couldn't believe our eyes.

Exactly, I would stand no chance of being able to restrain my springer in such circumstances.  Even smaller dogs get double the 'strength' somehow, a bit like young males out on a saturday night after a few beers!

Those I know with both sexes find having the bitch ckenneled and the dog indoors works best as you will be having to quieten him down from time to time, and that way is least likely to affect the neighbours.  It is important to minimise stress that he does not see her at all, and that he does not go where she has been in the garden.  So he should use the front garden for toileting say while she is in the back, otherwise he will get very upset.

Akita are you planning to breed them in the future? I couldn't have entire males and females,i think i would go nuts,aswell as them :(

Hi again.

Yea I'm planning on breeding in the future. I've had these problems before as I am only a beginner .... and took the advice from people here in getting pens built outside