i have juct purchased a aylestone and have never heard of the breed can anyone advise ??

SCUSE ME FOR BEING THICK....have you bought a breed of dog that you  no nothing about:rolleyes:

or is this a product?

or
no i cant bring myself to say it

the actual question applies to the the temperment of the dog and yes i have read up on this, but it appears to be a relative new breed and just wanderd if anyone had anything constructive to say unlike yourself

Apolgies,
Misread your post thought your said
"have never heard of breed" whereas you meant " any one here heard of breed.

I stand corrected

VERY VERY SORRY  l
lots of grovelling and knee shuffling

Tanya

I read it the same as you, Tanya! ;) :o

You've done very well to read up about them millybong because when I do a Google search, I just get one site, Aylestone Bulldogue
Association, naming 5 people and a heading "our Aim" and then nothing, which says just about it all really!:rolleyes:

www.aylestonebulldog.com is just about all i can come up with they are not the most helpful but do give a bit of info but not much. i really need to speak with aylestone owners are you one val ? 

Not wanting to seem argumentative here, but when Tanya thought you had bought a breed of dog you knew nothing about, you said you had read up on them, now you say that you have only found one rather unhelpful website. So which is it - you know about them or you dont? If the latter, then why on earth did you part with (probably) a lot of money without knowing whether it is the right breed for you?

Not me millybong.  I have hairy ones but I'm interested in all dogs.  I've looked at the website that you mentioned and there's no talk of a breed standard that they are aiming for and no two of the dogs look the same!!  Just looks like a hit and miss "I'll mate this dog to that bitch"! 
If I were interested in a bull breed, I think that I'd go to an experienced Bulldog breeder, breeding to the breed standard, so that I would have a good idea of the temperament and look that I would be bringing into my home.  Well bred bulldogs are fit, healthy and delightful.  I've met a good few around the showring.

There are a couple of other sites, I've found, but when one recommends that a puppy is fed only cooked minced chicken till it's 16 weeks old, I wouldn't want to advise anybody to go there! :rolleyes:

i am aware of the type  of dog 'old tyme bulldog' but just a bit unsure on the aylestone having previousley owned a dorset old tyme and a staffie i am sure thank you of the dog i have chosen i was just looking for some feedback from aylestone owners so if you ladies dont mind not putting your useless bits of drivel on my question it would be more helpful than you are being now.

From the information that's available on the net (and presumably written by their fans!) I'd say it's very much a matter of chance as to how each individual develops. I hope you enjoy a gamble! :)

>i was just looking for some feedback from aylestone owners so if you ladies dont mind not putting your useless bits of drivel on my question it would be more helpful than you are being now

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I think if you wanted some feedback from aylestone owners you should have asked them to supply you with previous buyers of their pups.  If they have plenty of satisfied customers then they wouldn't have minded providing you with contacts or references.  It's a bit late now.  Your approach to finding aylestone owners is a akin to a stab in the dark.

Perhaps if you were less abusive you would get more positive feedback. You have bought a dog, presumably on the strength of owning two different breeds, now you are doing the research. Good luck, I hope you dont find that you have made a big mistake choosing this breed, as it is the dog which will face the consequences. 

In our days when attacks by dogs are so well publised it is common sense and advisable to do your research on ALL aspects of a breed BEFORE buying.You are asking if anyone knows anything about their temperament...would it not have been wise to ask before having gone out and brought one.How much research did you do on the parents of your pup?Any health tests? You are playing a dangerous game of lottery buying a pup from a breed you do not know and have not researched ...I hope it pays off.
Archer

i am aware of the type  of dog 'old tyme bulldog' but just a bit unsure on the aylestone having previousley owned a dorset old tyme ...
Why go for the Aylestone when having (imo) owned the best altenative strain of bulldog (Dorset Olde Tyme ),Have you still got your Dorset? or are you going to be another one of those people who will indiscriminatley breed the two types to jump on the Olde Tyme band wagon.IMO it seems unbeliveable that you would get an otb with out knowing whats what, Temp, Health etc etc.... especialy when the Dorset Olde Tyme Bulldogge breeding programme is going from strength to strength..

I would also ask about health testing as at least one Aylestone owner has had a dog develop wobblers syndrome (there was a post about it some time ago).

Mollmoo can you help, I think you found the details for us previously, when there was a discussion on Old Time Bulldogs :)

http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/69361.html

i found this one brainless, have passed it on, but no response from poster yet

Tan

Wel that should give them some info, thought it might not be all good, certasinly not wise to buy without researching health throroughly.:rolleyes:

Your observations of the responses to your post are astute Millibong. Unfortunatly, in terms of info on these dogs little is known, they are a new breed and it can take a decade or so before personality, temprament, hereditory defects and so on can show some universal characteristics throughout a breed, in the meantime enjoy your dog.
I wish you well and its nice to see a mature person posting on here asking sensible questions.

A decade is only 3-4 generations...not long enough to be able to 'fix' or even ascertain any breed characteristics for certain.
Archer

I agree with you archer but so far these dogs seem so rare and scattered there really is no info on them thats of any use. A decade has the possibilty of giveing maybe one dominant characteristic-eg if the breathing problems have carried through from the British Bulldog, but, even then that would need quite a lot of people from around the UK to be in touch with each other and pass open info around.
No a decade is not near enough but at the moment there is nothing worth nothing than I am aware of, possibly a decade might see some kind of enthusiasts club who do find amongst them some common, inconclusive, charteristics as some kind of guidline.
Hypothetical example - The ones with a brown patch surrounded by white on the RH flank seem to carry sereious HD, the ones with the same patch on the LH flank show no HD problem.

Noticed that there hip scores are as bad as Bulldogs, so the comment of they are much healthier doesn't seem to be ringing true on this side of things yet!  Wonder whether it's true on anything else?

Of course both breeds have had very few scored so there's no real indication of the problem except they have quite low scores but also scores on the top scale too.

Just got to this thread, a friend of mine who owns Olde Tymes (They are not Alyestones) recently paid a visit to their premises and the feedback I got from them was NOT good.  I am aware that a couple of the dogs they own have produced pups that developed wobbers syndrome which is a very serious genetic disorder, they do have photographs of one the dogs that was brought from Aylestones that went to to develop this condition, his Sire and Dam are still actively being bred but as far as I am aware Aylestones do not health test.
Theres no set breeding programme, the dogs are not being bred true to type, pups born are normally the offspring of Victorian Bulldog x DDB, VB x American Bulldog I also have been told that Irish Staff is also used.  I could say more really which should be left to PM as I dont really want the thread being locked when such information is being sought.

I have sent the poster a PM so if they wish to reply they are most welcome. :)

Thanks was sure it was you who had some knowledge about these dogs.

thanks to everyone who has posted HELPFUL info i will keep you all posted on the devlopment of my new pup so that there is some more USEFUL info to throw about :rolleyes:

I don't know about the Aylestone line, but I had an Olde Tyme Bulldogge in my puppy class and found him a delight.  He played very nicely with the other dogs, especially the lab, and was totally devoted to his young male owner (who came from a very 'doggy' household).  They worked together as a team, with mutual respect and trust, which is they way the puppy classes work.

so if you ladies dont mind not putting your useless bits of drivel on my question



Come back soon pleeeaassee

Millybong please get in touch with me @ warwickbulldogs@yahoo.co.uk

Yes they have those dogs in their foundations and so do a lot of other old time types :-), whichever way people want to dress it up, all old tyme bulldogs are crossbreeds of some bullbreed type dogs.

I also breed old tyme so not in any way criticising that fact, it is just that, a fact.

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