HELP!! I have 2 lab bitches, Lottie is 4 1/2 months and Molly is 4 months. I have had them for nearly 4 weeks and not sure if I'm doing okay house training. I leave them 3 hours in the morning, with paper down and when I get home at Lunch they have weed on the paper (They go in the gardern before I go to work). In the afternoon I leave them for 4 hours and again they have peed on the paper. When I get home, I make sure they go out, praise them when they go wees and poohs and it all okay.  At Night I leave them for about 6-7 hours and in the morning there is pooh and wee on the paper. Will they ever stop weeing in the house?? Lottie has even stopped weeing on the paper, she wees and poohs right next to it!! I'm trying to be patient but it just never seems to end!! I even send one out of wees without the other because they just distract eachother! They are due for their second jabs soon, will taking them out help???

HEEELLLLPPP, my sanity and confidence is at rock bottom xx

6-7 hours seems too long for them.  You may have to get up during the night to let them out. :)

If you are leaving them for 3 hours in the morning and then another 4 in the afternoon it begs the question when are your doing any training?  They can't learn on their own you have to be there to show them what is desirable.  This is no life for a dog anyway but I think you have to a least take sometime off work until you have cracked this.  I fear you are also going to face some horrendous issues of distruction from these two if they continue with so little human company, sadly the company of another dog is no substitute in their eyes and often leads to even more bad behaviour as each eggs the other on not to mention hormonal led competitive behaviour as they mature, two bitches of very similar age can kick off alarmingly.

Agree with Isabel, and you're also teachig them to go in the house by using papers.

Oh and also got to ask why they haven't had their second vaccination yet if you've had them for 4 weeks? If they've not been out and about yet and are 4 months and over you have unfortunately lost out on an awful lot of essential socilisation.......... I wouldn't wait any longer, I'd get them out NOW, second injection or not. But you will also have to make sure you take them out separately as well as together as they need time to their own.

I think you've really got your hands full. Would it be possible for someone to pop in while you're at work to help with house training and socialisation? I've found it much harder than I expected to cope with 2, bitch and dog 14 months apart, and I'm retired.

Why are they weeing in the house?

Because they have no other option. Simple as that. They are babies and they need to toilet frequently, if no one is there to let them out, then they have no choice but to do it in the house.

This is going to take even longer because you have two pups pretty much the same age (as well as the risk of many other problems cropping up due to same sex same age puppies).

The only good solution to this other tahn rehoming them, is to employ someone to come to your house at LEAST twice a day and help with the toilet training/general training.
This wont come cheap, but realistically, your chances of housetraining these pups effectively any other way are pretty much nil unless you are happy to wait until they are MUCH older and capable of hanging on (which wont happen because they have no one there to teach them to hang on).

Sorry if thats not what you wanted to hear, but on face value, getting two puppies of the same age whilst you are working full time is not the most sensible of things (and thats putting it mildly)... how did you come to HAVE two pups?

Em

Thank you for your words. I'm not going to re-home the girls, I have taken them on and I will make it work.  They come into work with me in the mornings and then left alone in the aftenoon for 4 hours, this system worked last week as I would take them outside to go wee every hour or so. I'm going back to this method until they are older. As for the evenings, I go to bed at 1130 then up at 6am so they are doing well.  The girls have very different personalities and they get on very well together and I know this will all work out.

We had a pup that went through Quarantine so didn't coem out until 9 1/2 months.  He wasn't housetrained,a dn if he went outsude it was because it was convenient but he would just as happily go indoors.

Your pups won't ahve the physical ability to hold on (should they even wish to) until 5 or 6 months old.

The more often they pee/poo indoors the more acceptable in their eyes it will be.

This is the reason that time is best spent toilet trainign pupos by taking them out every time they eat wake, play and every hour in between or when they look like they need to go.

Your pups won't housetrain any time soon or reliably until somehone spends time training them so you need someone to do this.

As for them getting on lovely now, that is to be expected, it is unlikely t6hat they woudl start to have serious issues until around 18 months when sexually mature, or possibly not until 3 or 4 years of age when they reach full social maturity.

Your girls are still babies,Labradors only fully mature at eighteen months,mine were around six months when they were clean at night,as Brainless says they need to be put outside after meals,rest and play also when they start going out at regular times,walks ect they soon learn.

Sheila.