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- By nuttyhousewife [gb] Date 09.10.05 16:11 UTC
hi just wating to no what people medicine people give there dogs because i got piriton off the vet for brocks allergy,so just wondering what other stuff people give there dogs cheers
- By Mary-Caroline [gb] Date 09.10.05 17:40 UTC
Hi Dawn

I'm a bit slow today so forgive me if I've misunderstood your post.  Are you asking which human medicines you can use on your pet without consulting your vet?  There's probably no need for me to say this but I would say never never give your dog (or cat) any drug unless it has been prescribed specifically for that animal.

The other way I interpreted your post was as a general query.  Are you simply curious about which human drugs are often used in veterinary medicine?  If that's the case then there are countless examples, although most of the human drugs we use are POM, there aren't many drugs available over the counter in Boots which are suitable (Piriton being an obvious exception).  Quite a few anaesthetic agents are human grade, as are many of the drugs we use to treat gastric problems. 

Anyway I don't mean to be condescending at all.  Quite recently we saw a cat whose owners had given paracetemol to, with fatal consequence so you can understand why I'm wary about this subject.
- By nuttyhousewife [gb] Date 09.10.05 18:08 UTC
oh i have no intention of giving brock anything that the vet has not told me to,i am just curious as when i took him to the vet and he gave him piriton i was quite shocked and im just curious thats all but thanks for the reply
- By Goldmali Date 09.10.05 18:20 UTC
Hi Dawn
Vets used to use human drugs all the time, heart medication for instance, as quite often the human version would be cheaper than the pet version, depsite it being the exact same thing with just different labels on. Then the law changed and now vets have to prescribe the pet version of any medication WHEN there is one availale. If there isn't one suitable, they may use a human drug.
- By Missie Date 09.10.05 20:04 UTC
My vet told me to give Maddie immodium plus when she had real bad dire rear. Also the medication she had before diagnosed with EPI was omeprazole capsules, from Boots,  which are also for humans
- By Mary-Caroline [gb] Date 09.10.05 21:09 UTC
Hi Dawn

Apologies for misunderstanding your original post.  It's no excuse but I seem to be a bit slow today!  As I said, I'm very cautious on this subject simply because we've had a couple of nasty incidents involving human medicine.  When my whippet was little I stupidly left a blister strip of Co-Proxamol within reach.  They're very strong painkillers, 325mg Paracetomol and 32.5mg codeine, if I remember correctly.  They're quite large pills and taste revolting, but for some reason Cashie decided they were exactly what he was looking for.  He ate the lot, and I can't express how thankful I am that I noticed just as he was polishing them off.  He went straight to work and got some apomorphine within a few minutes, so no damage was done,  but I don't want to think about what could have happened.

Anyway, sorry again for my misinterpretation.

Regards

M-C
- By Moonmaiden Date 09.10.05 21:37 UTC
A word of warning about OTC(over the counter) human drugs. Never ever give a collie (or herding breed like Australians)any drug that contains things like Ivermectin, (Imodium contains loperamide etc Have a look at this site It has a list of drugs on it & a link to breeds related to collies that might surprise people There are other safe products including herbal & homoeopathic treatments that you can use

I wouldn't use Imodium on myself let alone a dog what the vet said
- By Missie Date 09.10.05 22:55 UTC
well, it didn't work anyway.
- By D4wn [gb] Date 09.10.05 23:54 UTC
I rescued a white/deaf boxer, she's now 13yrs old and still with her owners, who ate 20 Brufen Retard 400mgs. She ended up at the vet for 5 days. On a drip for most of that time. The vet said she had no chance of survival as she was only 3 months old. She'd been in this situation before when she was stung by a bee in her throat at 6 weeks. Her throat swelled up and I had to use fish tank tubing to intubate her while I got her to the vet.

We rescued her as her breeder was going to drown her at 5 weeks along with her white brother.

She recovered, with no ill effects, other than to the veterinary surgery. She ruined one of the crates they had and tipped the PC keyboard off the counter. She was given the run of the reception, behind the counter, while she was recovering. One day she 'invited' a Ridgeback over the counter and it took the vet nurses 10 minutes to settle the two of them down.

She uses Piriton every day and Paramol at times but only on the advice of her vet.

It just goes to show how dangerous Human Drugs can be though.
- By JanetE [gb] Date 12.10.05 08:52 UTC
Just as a point of interest .... apomorphine can be used for humans to treat male erectile dysfunction!
If there is a human equivalent of a POM drug and you could get the vet to agree to write a repeatable private prescription it could be dispensed at a pharmacy where it would no doubt be considerably cheaper.
- By Phoebe [gb] Date 09.10.05 23:48 UTC
I have a friend who used to be a vet's receptionist and she forgot to take her antihisthamine at home one day when she was working. The vet told her to take a piriton, but it was a horse strength one instead of the dog strength - the human ones can make you drowsy anyway so she nearly passed out on a horse one :D

Lots of human and animal drugs are the same product, but I'd never go around giving human medicine to animals willy nilly. Antihisthamines can be a life saver for dogs who have been stung. Aspirin can kill cats. It's okay at the correct dose for dogs, but any other painkiller like paracetamol or ibuprofen can be lethal. Best thing is don't do it without professional advice. The only thing I use regularly is Lacrilube or Viscotears which are eye lubricants as my old pei has glaucoma. I use aspirin sparingly if she fevers (a hereditary problem in the breed) but I got the OK and dosage advice from my vet and a veterinary expert on the condition in the USA.
- By DobermanLord [gb] Date 11.10.05 20:23 UTC
Hi, i believe alot that the vet gives animals, mainly dogs, are just the same as the medicine we get from a doctor only with a different label.

I heard of people subscribing medicine from a doctor, saying its for their use, and instead, giving it to their dog for whatever treatment.
And it works, a friend of mine does this whenever his staffordshire bull terriers is sick, he gives them the exact same thing as humans get and it shows the same results.

In most cases it saves on the vet bill for my friend.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 11.10.05 20:27 UTC
Only do this is the vet has told you it's safe to do so. Otherwise you run the risk of killing your dog.
- By tohme Date 12.10.05 11:55 UTC
DobermanLord this is extremely irresponsible practice and advice; not all medications suitable for people are fine for animals, a bit like onions and chocolate.........

See this link:

[link]http://www.aspca.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=23205&security=2620&news_iv_ctrl=1400[/link]
- By Jetstone Jewel [ca] Date 12.10.05 15:26 UTC
We give our Lab a human glucosamine with chondroitin supplement, with our Vet's OK - much cheaper than the Vet. version.  And when our ESS did not respond to the Vet. version of asthma medicine the Vet. herself prescribed a human version that her own child was taking.  I'd be awfully leery of giving my dog medicine of any kind without Vet. supervision though.
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