I have a small munsterlander chocolate and roan bitch looking for a stud she is beautiful and is in fanastic condition. Please any help

I'd suggest that you go back to your breeder, as there have so far been very few litters in the uk. Your breeder would be able to advise what type of health tests need to be done for your breed & which stud dog if any would suit your bitch's lines.

I wouldn't have thought that chocolate was the correct description of the colour of a Small Munsterlander. As there are so few SM's in this country you should go back to your breeder. Are there any breeding restrictions on her papers? If so you will definately need to go back to your breeder. They MAY be willing to remove the restrictions IF all relevant health tests are done.

The Large Munsterlander is black and white however, the small munsterlander is brown and white with ticking or roan variations acceptable.

Pictures of them on this site : Small Munsterlander Club of North America

To the OP - I would deffinately suggest going back to your breeder, it's worth it to discuss everything through with someone who has already been involved with breeding the small munsterlander, they may be issues you didn't think of.

Boxermum, I own and breed Large Munsterlanders which is why I was confused about the use of the colour 'chocolate'. If the OP can't get the colour right I have to ask myself if they know enough about the Small Munsterlander to breed a litter. In a breed that has only recently been granted Kennel Club recognition the best place to go back to is the OP's breeder. The gene pool will be so small that careful management must be made to ensure that this lovely breed is not ruined by too much in-breeding. Guest, I am not having a go at you. You came here to seek help. The best help is.... yep, you've guessed it, your breeder ;)

what is the correct term then?brown?liver?
all the same surely? maybe the ops breeder told them that it was chocolate?

I know of people who refer to chocolate labradors as liver   surely at the end of the day it is just a colour

Liver is the original term but doesn't sound quiet as nice as chocolate hence the more common use of chocolate now.

No they are not all the same!!!  In my breed a brown is a brown is a brown, no chocolates, no livers JUST BROWN.  Doesn't matter what shade it still should be brown.

Though there again we don't have Apricot, it should be Gold, but you still get certain people putting Apricot.

A little bit off topic, but I was talking to someone at a show, she had a liver and white Springer (she was just spectating, not showing) anyway, she pronounced 'liver' as live-er (as in alive, not as in liver, the organ) I always thought it was liver, as in the organ? Which is it, or is it one of those things that be said either way?

liver as in the organ :)

Thanks, it did throw me a bit, and it even took a while to click what it was she was saying!!! I had forgotten all about it until reading this thread! :D

Chocolate/brown/liver - I know what colour description I prefer, but then I'm a chocoholic ;)  At the end of the day I was just confirming to all who read this post (and who may not know the breeds as well as others !) that Small Munsterlanders are brown and white, brown being a colour that can also be called chocolate - and certainly when you look at an SM's colouring in the sun it does look more like a rich chocolate colour than a dowdy brown and I wouldn't think that someone who would prefer to refer to their dogs colouring as chocolate being a problem with them not knowing their breed - perhaps they are chocoholics too :D

p.s If you think I've used the word chocolate too many times then I'm sorry but I am a chocoholic :)

Don't forget red too!

Did someone mention chocolate :d

where ?  Let me at it....let me at it........ :D

Hi there,

Poster of this thread - I am also an owner of a small munsterlander in the uk, one of the 'B' litter born earlier this year. For your search for a stud...well there are currently approximately 28 dogs within the uk and all but a couple are related so cannot be bred with each other leaving either travelling abroad to stud your bitch or importing a male to the country to breed to her. As far as i am aware both Europe and the states have pretty strict guidelines regarding breeding of the small munster and dogs that wish to be bred have to prove their working capabilities in natural ability tests.

Sue