Is there anywhere that can tell you this?

try typing it into a search engine, i think some of the most popular ones are staffies gsds collies labs.

Depends on what aspect of popular you mean- do you mean with regards to registration ?
The kennel club has a list i think

I meant the most popular breed people own... but the registration will probs solve that, thanks :)

I have a feeling its labs!
Not to sure though. . . .

You'd be right Sara, over 45,000 Labs registered last year, Cockers second with 16,000

I thought it would've been the goldens

Goldens are 7th on the list with just over 10,000 registered last year...I was surprised too as, at shows, Goldens often get the highest entries, the last show I was and there was only 1 Lab and that was in NSC!

45000 labs registered, and I would hazzard a guess at another 20000 min unregistered. Less than 1000 of these registered Labs will ever see a showring.  Many of these Labs registered are nowhere near standard therefore never seen at shows and they, in time will also be bred from :(  There are more Labs registered than the whole of the gundog group put together. At champshows entries for goldens and Labs run parallel.  Tells a story, dont you think :(

Getting down of soapbox before I go off on one.......

Kayc - not sure what your problem is? I have registered Labs who have never and will never see the show ring. I never want to have them that fat apart from anything else. However that does not stop them being great companions and good working dogs. As far as Im concerned the breed standard and the way it is interpreted at its extreams especially is plain WRONG. How can a Lab with an extreamly deep chest, short legs and very heavy be of any use as a gun dog? Which after all is what they are supposed to be bred for.

Bluebell, maybe you have misunderstood me.  I also believe that show dogs nows are too fat, and like you do not like heavy dumpy shortlegged Labs, but these are not the standard. Yes I show my dogs which do very well (occassionally) but I also work them.  I breed to the standard and they are able to do the work for which they were originally intended.  I have lost placings in the ring because my dogs are not 'fat' emough, but they are of excellent quality, true to the standard, are healthy fit and very active.

My problem is with the many thousands of Labs who are bred as far from the standard as is possible, many do not even resemble a Lab. Whether they are capable of a days work is neither here nor there, as all aspects should be taken into consideration when breeding.  And yes I also have Labs who would be laughed out of the ring, but in the same essence, they could not contemplate a days work either. This is not the true standard of a Lab.

Whether a Lab may see a showring or not is neither here nor there, but all Labs being bred (as with any other breeds) should at least have some resemblance to the breed standard.  and also, the amount of Labs I have been in contact with recently, their temperaments leave a lot to be desired.  The willy nilly breeding labs purely for colour and for financial gain is extremely frightening.  It is over 40 years since the last dual champion, and to be honest I can never see this happening again, the split in the strains are so far apart that is would take another 40 years of very carefull breeding to put any of this right. THIS is where my problem is, it makes me extremely angry and upset that my breed has so degenerated from the standard.

>As far as Im concerned the breed standard and the way it is interpreted at its extreams especially is plain WRONG. How can a Lab with an extreamly deep chest, short legs and very heavy be of any use as a gun dog? Which after all is what they are supposed to be bred for.

This I do wholeheartedly agree with you, but why the two extremes, once upon a time they were combined, this is how I interperate the breed standard.

Some of my dogs are from Swedish decent (1st Gen) In these countries the Labs have to work to gain a Ch Status. Over here we can attain a SH Ch without ever giving our Labs a chance to do what they were bred for.  Even attaining a CH Status is just a case of achieving a Working Gundog Cert.  One day we may well have another Dual Champ, but certainly not in my lifetime

Hi Kayc

Sorry I did rather get on my high horse about that one but it is something that I care passionately about. I firmlyt believe that a working dog of any breed should be fit to work and the sooner the KC introduces something to test that and ensures that breeds are judged to the standard and not an extream the better.

I do know of one dual champ Lab, but he is in Holand and after 2 years his owners decided that it was unfair to make him gain and loose so much weight. Guess what he was also a Chockie, so it proves that it is possible, even in a strain that could be considered 'over bred'.

Sadly Goldies are having similar problems. I help at a training class for gundogs and it is nothing short of amaising the number of goldies who have absolutly NO retrieve instinct.

Could someone tell me where Bulldogs rank on the list please
Many Thanks

Where can i see the list???

Just type in on search engine.

I don't think it was labs this time anyway was it....???

Hi Bluebell
In addition to Kay's comments, I also think there are huge number of pet owners who like to have a litter because 'everyone says their lab is gogeous', she has a champions in her lines....(one or two on the fourth or fifth generation back), she's kc registered so must be good quality and ok to breed from etc etc....  I know it happens in all breeds, but labs are so popular that even if it was only 5%, that still accounts for a huge number of dogs being bred. 

I think the problem with chocolates iis that the explosion in popularity and the rapid increase in numbers being bred for colour to fulfil that demand (mainly in the pet market).  Sadly one only has to look at the guest's posts on here to see that the numbers of chocolate lab owners looking for a chocolate stud far outweighs the other colours and probably other breeds as well.  They are most likely to be pet owners who know little about breeding and whose aim is simple to breed more chocolate puppies.

I JenP I agree and I started out as one of those people who saw a chockie and fell in love (at that point I really didnt know much about them) and perhaps I was lucky in that it was very early in their popularity. But I ahve since learned loads. And there is some justice in the world, since a chockie stud dog will not necessarily throw chockie pups ;)

Sadly it is not just the pet people either - I know of at least one gun dog breeder who breeds dogs that I would not touch with a barge pole and he makes a fortune selling them as 'trained' gundogs at between 12 and 18 months. Worst of all is that there is a defect in his line so that many of his dogs will have a shorter than normal life. I guess that the moral is that where there is money to be made some people have no morals :(