Please help or advise my cav king charles was bathed today and i noticed two patches of sore skin with slight scabs in the hair any idea what it is as i am very concerned he also has a terrible odour

Sounds like a yeast infection.

so what would you suggest vets or antibac powder?

...not the vet, that's probably where the problem started; has your dog been given antibiotics? If so, you'll need to deal with an overgrowth of bad bacteria in the gut. You will also need probiotics to help re-establish the good bacteria, and antioxidants to deal with the toxins that the bad bacteria will have generated...the toxins will have caused the skin condition and odour, which will also need to be treated topically with an antibacterial solution.

I am concerned about stakemasters reply - of course you should take her to the vet. If it IS somehting catching and WAS caught at the vets, then she needs treatment for whatever it is.

The odour makes me think that it could well be sarcoptic mange. If it is she will be quite itchy, and if it is scratching her skin near the lesion will often make them show a scratch reflex. Sarcops scabs also  start to "lift off" into the coat when they are drying out,  there is crustiness round the outside of the lesion and a rawer redder spot in the middle ususally.

If this sounds like it, I would weigh her  to get the right dosage and  get "Stronghold drop on"  from your vets today and use it again in 3 weeks time  and then again 4 weeks later. It is one of the few treatments that is very effective against sarcops and so easy to administer - no nasty special baths. Isolate from other dogs/ cats.

You and your human family cannot catch it - you may get itchy wrists for a day or so but they cannot live on you and die within a couple of days. Instead of doing the "skin scrape" routine   if you have not used a flea treatment in the last 2 weeks - just buy it and use it.

A skin scrape often doesn't show up the mites even if it IS sarcops and is distressing for the dog.
By all means get the vet to do a skin scrape if he wants to, but if it isn't mange the treatment will do no harm and if it is you will be treating it quickly. The longer Sarcops is left untreated can become quite serious - much more so than a flea infestation. Some dogs left untreated for a couple of weeks can take much longer to get better and the odd few dont respond to treatment at all. You have to move fast.

It could be excema/hot spot or other things so do take her to the vet - but I would push them to prescribe  Stronghold in the first instance, just in case.  Stronghold will clear sarcops within 2 weeks of the second treatment and often sooner.

thanks for the advice i will do as you suggested

I wasn't inferring it was CAUGHT at the vets, but it is a result of antibiotic use...if it's Scabies (sarcoptic mange) there should be INTENSE itching, the skin will be red and scaley, and you should see small red spots that look like insect bites, these are an inflammatory response to the sarcoptes mite burrowing into the skin. Mites also prefer hairless skin like that of the abdomen.

Sorry to  disagree, the whole of the skin is not necessarily red and scaly to begin with and if a lesion is missed for a day or so then it does not appear like small red spots, it will look like an almost circular scabby/weepy area, up to the size of a 10p piece.  They dont look like insect bites at all by then. Once established then yes, the skin may be red in unaffected areas and feel hot to touch, but not always unless the dog is covered in it.To begin with dogs with sarcops dont always  itch intensely, only near the site of a lesion and if there are only one or two, at the start they may not scratch much more than ususal - ie hardly at all.  I have only ever seen sarcops starting on the ear tips, head, neck, chest armpits or back and sadly I have seen quite a few cases, some that recovered and some that did not respond to treatment though this was before Stronghold came out. I have never known Stronghold fail to cure it if used properly.

It may not be sarcops at all, but it sounded like it could be, which is why I posted as often an owner that has never experienced would be unlikley to think it could be that. Mange is such a horrid problem and sadly  very well looked after dogs do catch  it especially if they are exersised over ground with a high population of foxes.

...hold on a minute...so you express concerns about my reply, suggest scabies...then express concerns about your own suggestion by suggesting something else...hmmm

If you go to the Vet or chemist and ask for Hibiscrub.  this is an antifunagal and antibacterial wash used by vets and doctors for scrubbing up and also to wash the patient.  It is di9luted and applied to the skin and then rinsed off.  It works well with hot spots when a yeat/bacterial infection gets a hold after self trauma.

i was told it could be a yeast infection with one of my dogs it turned out to be atopic dermatitus i would check it out at the vets mine messed around for ages and well you can imagine what it does to a dog in full show coat as he was loosing clumps at a time it sounds as though whatever it is you have noticed it early, with this they scratch a hell of alot it can be sometimes pussy sometimes scabby with an odor it depends how far it ha gone watch out for any little red spots on the dog this is how i have found it starts first a red spot then it goes scaby then the coat starts to drop out then the scab flakes of, also it reacts to antibiotics until the dog is of then then it all comes back again we only found out when we had the blood tests done. This can also be found in all the hot sopt areas armpits stomach all around the head is itchy groyne down the inside of the legs sometime and on the chest you can get the odd spot else where.
i would ask a vet about some of these things mentioned on here they all can give of simalar signs as i found out when reserching on the internet act fast before it gets worse
good luck hope its not bad news
fiona

try these links sorry cant link it!!!

http://allergies.about.com/cs/canine/a/aa072699.htm

http://www.arthrix.com/dermatitis.htm

http://www.priory.com/vet/vetatop1.htm

http://www.upei.ca/~cidd/Diseases/immune%20disorders/atopy.htm

best of luck fiona

Thanks for all the help guys it turned out to be dermititis and he is doing fine now with episoothe shampoo and anti bac powder still lokks very sore mind but hey thanks again

what sort did it turn out to be??
fiona