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- By morganalfie [gb] Date 12.04.05 19:20 UTC
Hi

Does anyone know the different names of phonics systems etc, and how they work and how effective they are. For primary schools.
All knowledge will be gratefully recieved

Thanks
Alix
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 12.04.05 19:29 UTC
Have a look here Synthetic Phonics Seems to be quite a comprehensive site :)
- By Tigerlily [gb] Date 12.04.05 19:39 UTC
You're on the ball tonight Melody :-)
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 12.04.05 19:52 UTC
Doing my best :D :D
- By Trevor [gb] Date 13.04.05 05:36 UTC
Some schools will used a comprehensive scheme such as Jolly phonics or Letterland - but there is no 'one size fits all' method which is guaranteed to work for all kids. Some pupils have real problems in linking letters to their sounds and even more when it comes to using blends - the trouble is that various methods get touted about as the miracle cure for illiteracy and then abandoned or discredited when they don't work across the board - in the 22 years that I have been teaching I have seen so many fashions in teaching reading come and go - a combination of methods has always been best and I have even used signing and symbols for individual pupils rather than the 'approved methods' if that is what they needed.

Yvone
- By Dill [gb] Date 13.04.05 11:33 UTC
Yvonne,
Maybe thats because, like puppies, all children are different and therefore learn in different ways ;) ;)  (I know you know this, but the ones who tell you how to teach?........ :rolleyes: )
- By LisaW [gb] Date 13.04.05 11:45 UTC
I teach recepetion and Jolly Phonics is a big hit at the moment. They sell resources for this at The Early Learning Centre
- By Trevor [gb] Date 13.04.05 17:03 UTC
Oh yes - it's flavour of the month at the moment - give it another couple of years and it'll be discredited like all the others :rolleyes: - only the kids stay the same - the methods chnage constantly ( and the paper work just keeps mounting up :eek:  :D :D :D )

Yvonne
- By morganalfie [gb] Date 13.04.05 17:24 UTC
Hi
Thanks for all your reply's

what about sound write, does anyone know whatythats like to learn / teach understand. Thats what my son is on at school. But according to the teacher, is struggling with

Thanks again
Alix
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 13.04.05 19:35 UTC
I have taught all 5 of mine to read before they went to school (well, Sophie taught herself but she is a smarty pants). We put friezes around the bedroom walls and, just before bedtime we would have a game with them about the letters and pictures. We started this when they were a few months old so that they got used to it and we only played for a few minutes whilst they were very young

We would say '''Ooooh an APPLE ...A is for apple' (saying the sound 'Ah' and NOT the actual letter - Ay) This would progress to , 'can you see the Apple? ...it starts with Ah' and then a few months later to ...' Where is the Apple? What does it start with?'

The progression is natural and the children don't know they are being taught.

The advantage with teaching the sounds rather than groups of letters or anything else is that once you know the basic sounds of all the letters, there are very few words that you can't spell out

JMHO :)
- By morganalfie [gb] Date 13.04.05 20:03 UTC
Sorry, my post sounds like, i dont know what my son is up to.

It is like getting blood out a stone, trying to find out what he has been up to at school. And at times I have found it very dis heartening. Cause there are times. I think he is not getting the gist of things at school. ie with reading, We read every day. But sometimes, as hes reading. As I watch him I can see. He isnt looking at the words. So therefore I think hes memorised it from the last time he read it. But then all of a sudden. We will start with a fresh book, and he knows half the words.

Its as though, I think nothings going in, Then a few weeks later, he will make a reference to something. Which then makes me believe, he not doing as bad as I originally thought.

Weve done some phonic work, today after school. And he got the whole lot right. We cut squares of paper. Made words, I asked him to rearrange them into certain words, sounding them out as he did it, and then he wrote the word on a piece of paper. And bingo he did it.

I dont want to sound like a worry wart, and one of those you must do this mums. I just want to help him do well. Without applying any pressure.

His teacher, has said it isnt something they will start to worry about for another year or so.

Personally, All I want from Morgan is to know, That he is understanding things. And I dont want to wait so long, before any potential problems are identified.

Hope all that makes sense
Alix
- By ClaireH [gb] Date 13.04.05 20:46 UTC
Reading is memorising the words. What your son is doing is learning to read by recognition of familiar words rather having to sound everything out. Schools use sight vocabulary words which are words that cannot be sounded out and must be memorised on sight, such as 'was' and 'white'.

If his teacher isn't worried, neither should you. Believe me, if there was something to be concerned about, his teacher would have told you. All you'll do is convince Morgan he has a problem with reading which will drop his convidence and interest in books. Then you'll have a problem! IMO the most important thing with a child, especially boys, is that they enjoy reading. Children develop different skills at different times. Maybe he is developing a skill in a different area right now...

Personally I find the worst thing parents do is teaching the phonics to be pronounced wrong. For example, the letter M is pronounced mmmmmmmmmmmmm, not mer, short sound like T are said quickly like t, not ter. That's when children spell things like butter, buut; bu-u-t[er]!

I think it's great when parents show an interest and read with their kids at home, I wish they all did it. Sounds like you are doing everything right, so chill! :-)
- By morganalfie [gb] Date 14.04.05 17:16 UTC
Hi thank you all,

I know Im being a complete worry wart, naurotic mother.

I've calmed down now. He has done really well this week. 2 Stickers. Has sailed through his homework.

Paranoid Mum

Alix
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