at what age does a vet first give a health cheak for a pup and can he tell at that age if his testicles are going to drop or not

A vet can check a dog or puppy at any age, but they cannot tell when the testicles will drop down. Only time will show that up. Register and tell us more. Have you got a dog who has not dropped yet?
One of mine could make his drop and with equal efficiency disappear until he was about a week off 9 months of age! Every show was a nightmare, as I could never guarantee he was not holding them in!

thanks polly.when we bought the pup(although we love him dearly)we were told that they (breeder) did not object to us putting him out for stud.me and my husband are quite upset as we were considering breeding in the future but if his testicle does not drop we have been told that he will have to have an operation.where do we stand as we are not very happy

Unfortantly this happend, you can never gurentee that you will be able to breed from a dog you buy (we brought 2 bitches that we wanted to breed from, one has a bad hipscore, other had pymetra so had to be spayed) We can't go back to the breeder and demand our money back, it's something that happends.  A breeder does not know if a dog will be good enough for whatever the owners want the pup for.

I agree with ice-queen, there is a difference in expressing a wish to maybe wanting to show and breed and purchasing a dog specifically for that purpose, presumably showing some potential.  In that likelyhood I think you would expect a contract that would reflect that but I expect it would generally stipulate a return of that puppy in exchange for another and I doubt you are considering that :)  Did you have a contract?

thank you isabel for yor reply.l think we have to keep our fingers crossed but if his testicle does not drop we still love him just the same

Hi
We bought a male some years ago and I had actually noticed the absence of one of his pea-nuts and asked the breeder had she seen both as they can move about. She stated she had and she also knew we wanted to show him. We had him for 4 months and it never dropped so we took him back now taking into account he cost £400 in 1998 which at that time most pup's were around the £300 mark we had no choice and I recall my Husband cried as we were very fond of the little chap and I remember saying to him we cant keep a one balled dog and crying with him it was awful.
But legally speaking the puppy is classed as unsound if he doesnt drop it so the breeder is obliged to meet you half way either to have him back and like you have already said he isnt going back so therefore some cost towards the operation as it has to be operated on.
terrible situation to be in but dont feel guilty about approaching them they sold you a sound healthy puppy  and its cosmetic if his teeth dont turn out correctly or if he doesnt carry himself well for the show ring but this is different as it is an operation to correct and it cant be left.
Let us know how it turns out it could still drop yet

That soes depend on whether the pups was sold as a breeeding anumal (very stupid of a breder with an immature animal) or as a comapnaion with maybe show/breeding potential.

the dog is not unfit for the purpose (a companion) due to the absense of a testicle, failure of ear carriage, poor tail carriage or wrong bite etc etc, all of which can go wrong in a puppy making it an adult that is not fit to be bred from and or shown.

Most breeders chatge the saem for all their pups at the baby stage, as they at best can have potential at that stage, but it shoudl be evident that they are fit to be companions by then, and that is what is being sold.  Those who are chatging extra for breeding or show woudl in my view be morally obliged to refund the difference of price paid and that of a pet pup, or depending on what was agreed exchange it for one that met the contracted purpose.

we have e-mailed the breeder 3 with no responce so it looks as if l will have to ring.thank you for your advice