caan you buy american staffs in the uk

Not legally.

Why is that then? I thought it was perfectly legal to buy and own AM Staffs in the UK.

Because the DDA says any dog of pitt bull type is illegal not just pitts etc...and the Amstaff is considered of pitt type
Archer

There is a person in my area that has just had a litter of thirteen, and he does not even care that they are illegal, he even takes them on the beech and all over the place with him. How come he has never been collered by the police.

The son of somebody at my works bought two recently, one bitch one male, they've already got rid of the male.  The bitch is due in season but they are happy to wait until the next season before having pups (she's not 6 months yet) before having a litter.  You can imagine what I said to my work colleague, not repeatable on here I'm afraid.  They also paid £600 for these dogs, each that is !!!

Probably because nobody's reported him and made a formal complaint.

Dont know why this keeps cropping up have replied to numerous posts concerning Am Staffs, not about to get embroiled into it again if you have joined up guest pm me and i will point you in the right direction as to where you can get the correct advice from.

The correct advice would be from lawyers, MollMoo.

:rolleyes:

Some people don't want correct advice JG ...just a dog that runs the risk of being PTS .
Archer

Read section 1a) of the Dangerous Dogs act, then get back to me and tell me where on earth it mentions the Am Staff???????  Yes they could be deemed as Pit Bull Type, but i urge people if they are dead set on getting one of these dogs to get their paperwork in order, then they may have half a chance of fighting any case that was brought against them.

I studied law for a long time, there is no mention of this breed on the DDA but its obvious i am banging my head up against a brick wall.  Clearly if they were not legal in the UK then they would be mentioned along with the other four breeds on the dangerous dogs list.

Unfortunately even if you did have paperwork it would do you no good. Pedigree Staffie's have been seized and destroyed even with pedigrees and KC registrations!

Why bring puppies into the world just to take a chance that they will not be put to death?

Regards, John

Sad but true a dog only has to be of the type in the opinion of one of the CPS's"experts"to be legally PTS !

Exactly John... from pedigee staffies to great dane crosses have been seaized on the DDA ....paperwork is irrelevant
Archer

There are lots of unfortunate breeds that have been siezed under the act even Lab x Staffies, i know a couple of people that have Am Staffs and its a shame that theres a stigma attached to these kind of people, when in reality the people that i know have young families aound these dogs, and the dogs are a joy to the people that own them.

The DDA is a joke, as its stopped nothing infact the four breeds that are mentioned on it are more popular than they have ever been amongst people who are just in it all for the money.  I know of four dogs that should not even be in this country they were brought in as something else, and this person has made sure its all wrapped and tied up should anyone question them.  Any dog can be siezed under the act thats why its such a joke, it should be either scrapped or re-written a lot clearer.

Not only Lab x Staffies MollMoo. William Roach's (Ken Barlow in Coronation Street) pedigree Labrador was seized after jumping up to get a better view of a small dog which was being carried by its owner. No dog is safe from the DDA but some are less safe than others.

Regards, John

mollmoo mate,how you doing?ive been reading your debate with the nice lady jg i no its a while back now but ive read the DDA act myself & it never mentions of ASBT been banned,it does mention if its of a pit type you have to prove its not,well something along those lines.i also spoke to a organisation who specialise in this field,basically they help banned dogs in some sort of way,cannot remember how exactly,but the lady who i spoke to did say it was Legall to have a ASBT,and it was also legall to import,which i was thinking of but decided against because it was to much hassel,not the importing,but proveing to the courts, if the dog was questionned,is it a apbt or ASBT,i did not want to take the risk as it could cost alot of cash.DO you anybody who has a ASBT,or have you ever owned one maybe? i think you mentioned in some of your txt's that you new somebody who owned one.

look foward to your reply.

Regardless if people 'like' this type of dog or are 'into' this type of dog...but maybe especially if you like this type of dog...why on Earth would you take a chance of purchasing a puppy (or rescuing a dog) of ANY breed that could potentially be removed from your posession and destroyed?    Perhaps those that question the DDA should put their efforts into petitioning to have it changed or removed?

Well thanks John for your polite reply :)

Its a shame more people cannot be like you here, its obvious "the face dont fit here" so i shall cease to post.

:rolleyes:

Unfortunately a no. of people in American Staffs. are only in them for the money.  Charging £600 a time for a breed that isn't recognised in this country and which I don't think will be.   Don't get me wrong I've seen them in Europe and think that they are lovely dogs, but I really don't think that they will be accepted over here because of the DDA.  I could be wrong and would be happy to be so, but it does annoy me when there are so many people in it just for the moiney and they are definitely not helping the breed one little bit.  They unfortunately seem to be turning into the new DDB.

MollMoo, if Amstaffs are not 'of the type' (the iniquitous DDA's catch-all wording), why, when I google, do I find so many US breeders proudly saying that their Amstaffs are registered as both American Staffordshires and APBTs?

As I've said many times before, Trevor Cooper (the leading solicitor for defending and trying to save dogs seized under this Act) has reported in the Dog press many times that, under the DDA, AmStaffs are considered to be the 'show' variety of pitbull and are illegal.

My personal opinion is that this is very wrong, that the DDA should be immediately repealed, but until it is I will not advise people to break the law and run the risk of having their innocent dog taken away and destroyed.