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Topic Dog Boards / Health / ringworm
- By heidleberg [gb] Date 15.12.04 18:51 UTC
Hi yet more trouble with Toby, his eyes are getting better but he now has ringworm that i am treating with Canesten,
I dont usually have any problems with Toby he has always been very fit and healthy until now :rolleyes:
A friend wondered if he was a bit run down after the eye infection and if that is why he has now got ringworm, so i was just wondering if there was anything i could give him like conditioning tablets? although he seems fine and his coat is beautiful, please help.

Heidi
- By heidleberg [gb] Date 15.12.04 21:30 UTC
John anyone, i just wondered if there was something to boost his immune system to get him over this ?

Heidi
- By John [gb] Date 15.12.04 21:52 UTC
Just seen your post Heidi.
Ringworm, as you probably already know, is not actually a parasite at all, but is a fungal infection. My only dealings with it was when my sister contracted it. Her doctor prescribed her medication and it went! Simple as that. When she went to her Doctor she had all sorts of fears. Things like that don't happen to "Nice People"! Her doctor said, "But you are living in the country now Mrs ****, you must expect these things!" ;)

I know you have had your problems over the last few days, but if it was me, I would not be too bothered. It is so common that there are no secrets attached with treating it and it should go away in very short order.

Incidentally, I am hearing that cats often carry it. Don't know the truth of that, just a little gem I picked up. My sister had a cat!!

Best wishes, John
- By heidleberg [gb] Date 15.12.04 22:07 UTC
Thankyou very much John,
Ok i will see how he goes, he is my baby i love him to pieces, I am proberbly a bit over protective with him, dont normally have any problems with him then he goes and picks up two things at the same time :rolleyes:

I do have a cat so it is possible the cats the culprit.

Heidi
- By John [gb] Date 15.12.04 22:40 UTC
I think we are possibly all a little bit over protective of out dogs Heidi, they are just a little bit special!

I'm not big on supplements at any time. I believe that with a good diet my dog will be getting all it needs. If I gave any "Booster" at all then it was usually something like vetzymes but then, I believe they are yeast based so would be totally unsuitable for use with a fungal infection.

Saying that, the nearest I get to a regular supplement is the tin of Pilchards in Tomato Sauce that I feed every Sunday lunch time. I believe the fish oils in there do my dogs no end of good and are safer than giving such things as Cod Liver Oil.

Best wishes, John
- By kao kate [gb] Date 16.12.04 08:09 UTC
pilchards in brine given three times a week seems to give dogs a great boost. for treating the ring worm you cant beet tea tree , a general wash in tea tree shampoo and the treat the actual ring topically with the fungal cream or imavoral. and it shoulodm soon go.:)
- By John [gb] Date 16.12.04 08:46 UTC
I have to say, I never give the ones in brine. I always figured the excess salt would not be good for them. I always give the ones in Tomato Sauce.

Regards, John
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 16.12.04 10:17 UTC
Heidi - most definitely your cats are the culprits :(  !!

It's something I had to battle with for quite a while - in the end ALL the cats were bathed regularly with a tea tree shampoo, sprayed with a tea tree conditioner AND were fed a homeopathic nosode (my memory's not too good this morning - party last night ;) but I think it might have been bacillinum - will check tonight at home).   I repeated this every two months for a year before I was convinced that I had eradicated it - as John says, it is a fungal infection, in the same family as athlete's foot, and it can seem to hang around.   Probably because Toby was a little low, he has succumbed to it!   Be aware that it is a zoonotic (sp??) and passes easily to people - generally the first indication in a family that the cat has ringworm is when a member of the family goes to the doctor with funny spots!!!

Margot
- By kath_barr [gb] Date 16.12.04 10:31 UTC
I don't know about pilchards John, but I've seen some tuna in tomato sauce with a very high salt content so check your labels. :)

Kath.
- By heidleberg [gb] Date 16.12.04 20:59 UTC
Thankyou all so much for your help,

Margot, if i bathed my cat she would claw me to pieces she hates water, tried it one day when she came in with oil down her back, she went mad, my daughter has two cats and she baths them but they dont mind :)

Heidi
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 16.12.04 22:44 UTC
Oh boy - I do know the problem!! :D :D

I had to bath one of my cream perians and she absolutely hated it!!!   She took er revenge on me though - he bit my finger one time - right through the nail :eek:  :eek:      Now, whenever it gets cold, my finger feels s if I am scalding it in the steam from the kettle! - so I always remeber Caffie Creme!

Try spraying them with a mix of tea tree oil & water - you have to "break down" the tea tree oil by adding about 5 drops to 1 tabs of vodka, shake well, then add to 1 pt water - might help.
Margot   
- By John [gb] Date 16.12.04 23:05 UTC
Could be that if you gave the cat the vodka you would then be able to bath it??? ;)

Sowweeeee!
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 17.12.04 07:08 UTC
...should have added - drink most of the bottle of vodka yourself first - to give you the courage to start bathing the cat :D :D

Margot
- By heidleberg [gb] Date 17.12.04 07:59 UTC
sod the cat the vodka is mine :D but i will try and bath the cat after a vodka or two :D

Heidi
- By Cava14Una Date 17.12.04 09:21 UTC
HOW TO BATHE A CAT
===================
1. Thoroughly clean toilet.
2. Lift both lids and add shampoo.
3. Find and soothe cat as you carry him to bathroom.
4. In one swift move, place cat in toilet, close both lids and stand  on
top, so cat cannot escape.
5. The cat will self agitate and produce ample suds.
(Ignore ruckus from inside toilet, cat is enjoying this)
6. Flush toilet 3 or 4 times. This provides power rinse, which is
quite effective.
7. Have someone open outside door, stand as far from toilet as
possible  and quickly lift both lids.
8. Clean cat will rocket out of the toilet and outdoors, where he
will air dry.

Sincerely,

THE DOG

:D Anne
- By heidleberg [gb] Date 17.12.04 12:19 UTC
lol :D :D :D
- By heidleberg [gb] Date 17.12.04 15:48 UTC
Done it, i bathed the cat, no not in the loo :D
I took her in the bathroom locked the door so she could not escape and held her firm by the scruff of her neck, oh i felt so bad she cried all the way through it so i have just given her a treat in hope she will forgive me :D

Heidi
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 17.12.04 16:25 UTC
It's not quite as bad as you think it will be, is it??? ;)

Did you use the hairdryer - if she won't let you get it too near her, you can always put her in the dog crate, and then have the hairdryer, on the LOW setting directed into the crate - this works!!!

PS   Use the teatree old spray on yourself as well - either that, or buy the Canestan spray for yourself...... just in case she gives you a little "nick scratch" and she passes it on to you!!!

Margot
- By kao kate [gb] Date 18.12.04 18:13 UTC
i always used the ones in brine as you can drain it off easily without washing the goodness out and although the dogs dont mind the tomatoe the cats wont eat it!!! :) what ever it is in its a idea to drain the excess juice and not to over do it a dog can have to much of a good thing!!
- By staffie [es] Date 17.12.04 17:10 UTC
Sorry to here about your dog :-(
Ringworm can be passed from animals to people.
I have moved to Spain and so did Jacki who used to post on here. Jacki´s daughter rescued a kitten from the dry riverbed and the kept the kitten. The kitten had no signs of ringworm, but about a week later firstly Jacki´s daughter who had the most contact with the kitten, then Jacki then my daughter and even I got one patch and I did not even hold the kitten. So it can be really contageous.
We all got a spray from the pharmacy here called Fungisdin which cleared it but can leave small whie scars. It was the kitten that apparently carried the fungus but showed no signs. Jacki did argue it was not the kitten but no one had it until the kitten arrived and the doctors asked if we had any new pets.
- By Rozzer [gb] Date 17.12.04 21:26 UTC
Ringworm is very contagious.  As mentioned cats are culprits, but so to are livestock, especially deer!  I walk alongside a deer park with my dog and I ended up with ringworm on my arm, I believe it is an airborne fungus as well as found on fences etc.  I took the dog to the vet for a check and she got the all clear (as mentioned ringworm is zoonotic) so I had to keep myself covered up to protect the dog!  My vet told me that ringworm in dogs is quite rare and is usually seen as bald patches on the coat.  Personally I would take the dog to see a vet because if it is ringworm you want to get it properly treated.
Sarah
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 18.12.04 22:10 UTC
We actually think that the ringworm came into our household via a rabbit caught by pedigree persian Dilly Blue, who dragged it in for her kittens :eek: !!!

We'd never had the problem  before, but as I said, it is the devil's own job to eradicate completely - and although you can treat with grisulvin (sp?) personally, I think this a a drug that is far too toxic to be given ad-lib to eradicate something that isn't actually life-threatening!

Margot
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