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Topic Dog Boards / General / what age should testicles be felt??
- By danny [gb] Date 11.11.04 20:07 UTC
Hello, i bought a show quality rottie pup in may and he unfortunately has only one testicle at present and he is almost 10 months old, so we are having him fully castrated next year when he turns 1.  So his show career is obviously up the creek so to speak. We would never part with him but the vet has advised removal of the retained one.  We now have an 9 week old male pug puppy who i bought from a top show breeder and he looks stunning already.  went to the vet for his first jab tonight and she says she can only feel one testicle at the moment.  am i just being paraniod that this puppy is also "one balled" or is it too early for people to panic yet??    we love him to death, can i really be that unlucky.        i did buy him to show which the breeder was very happy about as he was the best in litter, do i have any comeback off breeder if he can never be shown if he only has one testicle??  yours  ,fretting like mad!!!!              PLEASE NOTE THAT OUR DOGS ARE ADORED NO MATTER WHAT DANGLIES THEY HAVE!!!
- By Emily Rose [gb] Date 11.11.04 21:03 UTC
I think this has been a subject on here before and I may be wrong but it has been known for them to take a couple of years to fully descent so I wouldn't 'write off' either of your boys show chances just yet! i'm sure if i'm wrong someone will correct me! have you tried doing a search on this site, it should come up with some useful info :)
- By dollface Date 11.11.04 23:54 UTC
Yes I would do a search on this... I have also read that it can take about 2 yrs sometimes to fully descend.. Sometimes they are there and other times they are up. I too wouldn't write both ur dogs off just yet.
- By Kerioak Date 12.11.04 08:35 UTC
Hi Danny

I do think you should have written "seen" rather than "felt" :)

If lack of a "dangly" is the only reason you are having your Rott. castrated I would wait a bit longer as it could still descend - unlikely but possible.  It is not automatic that dogs with retained testic*les will become cancerous any more than entire bitches automatically get mammary cancer, although because they are present it is possible.
- By Stacey [gb] Date 12.11.04 18:09 UTC
Kerioak,

Comparing a retained testicle to mammary glands in entire bitches with regard to probability of cancer is not a valid comparison.   Testicles are not meant to be tucked up in the body and exposed to the higher level of heat of an internal organ.   It's the higher level of heat that increases the risk they will become cancerous above that of a normal, descended testicle.

Stacey
- By Kerioak Date 12.11.04 18:16 UTC
It is valid in as much as if they are removed then they will not get cancer which was what I meant rather than the specifics of the particular organs
- By Stacey [gb] Date 12.11.04 08:57 UTC
Danny,

You probably know by now that when you buy a dog specifically to show you need to wait until the testicles are descended before purchasing the dog.  All a young puppy can be is a "show hopeful" and no breeder can guarantee in either dogs or bitches a pup will turn out to be of show quality.   Nine weeks is too young to panic with regard to testicles.  But if you really, really want a dog for show I would talk to the breeder and see if she will take him back.  It depends on the breed, but 5 or 6 months old is about the age when you can be fairly comfortable (80% certain) that a pup from proven show lines will be worth showing.

Even so ... stuff does happen.  My new dog was "retired" from the show ring when he was 14 months old.  He is a real stunner from a breeder that has finished a good number of champions.  Both his parents are champions.  Although he had both his testicles, he had the unfortunate habit of pulling one back up inside him when the judge examined him.   Crufts 2004 was his downfall  :-)   So ... nothing is ever certain in dog showing.

Stacey
- By Moonmaiden Date 12.11.04 09:30 UTC
The worst thing you can do is keep checking ! To be honest after one of the cavaliers was frightened by a vet groping him I leave wll alone until 6 moths, if the dog is lying on his back with the bits obvious there is no need to grope of cousrse
- By danny [gb] Date 12.11.04 13:29 UTC
Thanks for all your  comments, we are not panicking so much now!!    With regards to the rottweiler being castrated we are waiting until he is about 18 months. Having spoken to three vets  all have said they have seen some terrible cancers caused by retained testicles and all recomended removal of it if it stays retained. We may not fully castrate him and leave his other one in place as it seems happy there . thanks again chaps.
- By ClaireyS Date 12.11.04 13:59 UTC
My 8 month old Irish Setter has a retained testicle, im waiting until he is 2 years old and fully mature (well as mature as a Setter can be :rolleyes: ) and then I will have his retained one removed, I wont get him fully castrated though as I dont see the need.  Until then I am still hanging on to the vague hope that my boys other one might make an appearance :)
- By michelled [gb] Date 12.11.04 15:11 UTC
my friends BC,had a retained one,the vet did a bit of poking about & massaging,& it dropped, he was about 2
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