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By chair260
Date 24.06.04 18:32 UTC
I have a yorkie bitch. Shes 2 years old and lovely. Her next season should be in August or some time around then. I want to breed from her. I would be keeping any puppies she would have so I know they would go to a good home but i'm nt sure whether to or not. What do you guys think?
By Jackie H
Date 24.06.04 18:43 UTC
First thing to ask yourself why do you want to breed your bitch, there is always a risk in breeding so if it is because you just want another dog it would be cheaper & safer to buy one in than go to the risk, expense and hard work.
By chair260
Date 24.06.04 18:48 UTC
i want one of my dogs puppies. its not that i want another dog, i just want her dog.. but i dont want to put her in any danger, i was wondering how much danger and risk is involved in a litter of pupies for her?
By Jackie H
Date 24.06.04 19:00 UTC
Well it is not my breed so I don't know the level of risk involved, better ask the bitches breeder for the likelihood of a problem. If you want a dog from the same line they may be able to offer you one. Every whelp has risks attached so it is up to you to weigh your desire against the possible risks.
By Val
Date 24.06.04 19:00 UTC
How did you get on with the link about breeding that I posted in February?? It does give an idea of what is involved.
By mattie
Date 24.06.04 20:41 UTC
we had a lovely yorkie (Toffie) she was adorable I decided to breed from her I had no idea about breeding small dogs we put her to a good dog and did all the right things she went into labour had the pups we didnt realise small dog breeding was very special needing to keep them absolouty at the right temp etc we lost two pups then toffie became poorley she sadly died of a ruptured uterus then only one pup survived we had lost our beloved dog our vet bill was £600 (but we would gladly stand that if we still had her) ask me if i wish i had never bred her? my answer is no I wish I hadnt it broke my husband heart and mine as well and why did we breed her? because we wanted to keep a puppy from her.
so I would say think very carefully about it breeding any dog is risky but breeding minature dogs is more so.
last year i lost my beloved labrador 2 and a half I had decided to mate her she had all the health schemmes came off top breeding and she dies of Pyometra so if you are not sure about breeding then dont do it
By dog
Date 24.06.04 22:28 UTC
A breeder came round to mate my two.My bitch wasn't happy at all.I didn't like it one bit and said don't bother.
She said if it was up to me there would be no pups born.
I can assure you there will be no pups born here.
I will leave it to the experienced breeders.That day I found out breeding was not for me.
I'm glad we tried .
I would have liked pups from them but it wasn't ment to be.
I think I would have found it very hard to part with any of the pups.
Breeding is not for me.
Chow
My Mum has a saying, which applies to many situations, including this one......
If in doubt............Do nowt!
liberty
Another point to bear in mind is, that if you go ahead and your bitch has puppies, they will not be carbon copies of her, they will be 50% of the sire.
By KateL
Date 25.06.04 07:52 UTC
Or more Shadowboxer.
gordon lover/Kate
By inca
Date 25.06.04 09:15 UTC
After all that I think if you research it fully and are prepared for what can go wrong then breeding a toy litter can be a wonderful thing , I asked myself all these questions 5 years ago and am proud to say I have safely raised 4 litters ( Cavaliers) I took on board a lot of advice and have to say it is very hard work if done right:) and expensive too, people are right in saying think very hard before you decide to breed a toy litter or any litter for that matter ............says me who is still not had a full nights sleep in 4 weeks :)

Expensive YES, my girl is only just over 5 weeks pregnant and we have spent well over £ 500 so far in vets fees and that was before I even knew if I was going to get a litter out of it. Plus the heartache if anything should go wrong :-( with mum, pups or even both!
Good luck with whatever you decide :-)
By woomeg
Date 25.06.04 10:12 UTC
why have you had problems with her if so what, if not how come its cost that?

I have posted, if you look back through, but basically she didn't ovulate until days 20..........so after 3 premate blood tests, then she continued bleeding (still is) we've had 2 scans, 3 courses of anti-biotics, she had an infection.........and we haven't finished yet! She's only day 39/40 today vet thinks her cervix is still open so she will be prone to infection.......more anti-biotics, plus if she gets a bad infection it could kill the unborn litter, we've had to have PCV blood tests to check the red blood cell level as she is bleeding................
Sure this isn't a normal everyday pregnancy, but it can still happen, our very first litter, different girl had eclampsia and that cost us £1300 over one weekend!
Before you ask, her first litter was 'Book of the Bitch' exactly how it should be, but it just goes to show you're not guaranteed for all to run smoothly even if it did in a previous litter.
By Jackie H
Date 25.06.04 10:36 UTC
And that is just the vets fees, not taking into account the special feeding required and the time off work. Yes, really does need a lot of thought and the acceptance that your are putting your bitch in danger and will in all probability have to face the loss of at least one pup. Of course, some whelping goes without a hitch but think most people who have bred will say that is not the norm, distress and death is in most cases an integral part of birth and it takes a special person to cope with it.
Would say if you are sure and have a good reason then go ahead but take advice and be prepared for a tiring and worrying time.

Even with a straightforward pregnancy and whelping, the costs are generally well over £1000.
By woomeg
Date 25.06.04 10:45 UTC
Please enlighten me with the basics if you dont mind.is this without complications?
By Jackie H
Date 25.06.04 10:51 UTC
Are you talking to me or JG?
By woomeg
Date 25.06.04 10:57 UTC
Soryy JG i was directing question too! As you posted it takes a special person to cope with the hardships you may go through and until you experience them one doesnt know if that person is yourself surely!!! I obviously dont want to endanger my bitch and will and am able to do the upmost for her whatever the cost! I dont work and am at home all day, I have two daughters and they have each a pony, so thats the only other tie i have or hobby if thats a better word for it
By Val
Date 25.06.04 11:03 UTC
Have you had a go at this woomeg? It gives an idea of the possibilities.
http://www.geocities.com/virtualbreeding/virtualbreeding.html
By Jackie H
Date 25.06.04 11:04 UTC
Sorry Woomeg was not addressing you as your bitch may already be in whelp and is not a toy breed. The cost of producing a litter can run into a good deal of money, £1000 is in some cases is on the modest side. My comment that it takes a special person to breed should have perhaps said more than once. You do need to be very practical and take the knock backs as part of life and not become so upset that it effects your ability to function in the best way for the remaining pups.

Although my girls pregnancy last year was text book, we did lose one pup, something I wasn't really prepared for, it really is heartbreaking. Feeding, again, you would not believe how much a litter can eat :-) plus mum being on probably 3 or 4 x her normal amount!

Yes, that is without complications, and when I was a fulltime housewife and didn't have to take any time off work etc, so it is purely the costs of mating (not including travel expenses), pregnancy (no scanning or xrays), home vet-check post-whelping, and litter-rearing costs (whelping box [home-made, so cheap], food etc).`If things go wrong, the costs start to soar!

The act8ual cost of my last 3 litters, which were small ones for the breed being two litters of four and a litter of 3 (this one involved a C section).
Last litter from which I kept one of the four pups £1129.65, previous litter four pups all sold £969.85, and the litter of 3 with C section £1199.68.
Differences in costs are mainly Veterinary.
You can imagine that many of these costs in a large litter will grow, like the amount on food, registrations etc.
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