We are looking for a white german shepherd puppy to become a member of our family. If anyone who knows a good breeder, can he/she e-mail contact information to cemcetin@justicemail.com.

thank you

Sorry don't know of a good breeder, believe there are one or two that breed white/cream GSD's that are reasonable examples of the breed and with luck even health test the parents, as you are no doubt aware there are a lot of cream dogs out there that are very poor examples and should be avoided at all costs. Why do you want a white one? Nosy I know, but often wondered why the cream ones are asked for when to my eye the normal colours are so much more attractive and good ones easier to come by.

Probably for the same reasons people want certain colour great danes, labs etc etc etc.....

Any idea what that reason is Zoe.

Because we like them Jackie? :D I love blue danes, and because I could obtain one reasonably easily I did... I prefer white GSD's too - having walked one for a couple of years for a friend, she was just a gorgeous dog :) Its just a preference :)

Jackie, there is a lot of coloured dogs out there that should also be avoided at all costs!!

This arguement has risen it's head far too many times Kim.  I just wish people who have no interest or liking for the whites wouldn't bother to post if they haven't got anything to contructive to say.  The poster asked for help, I have emailed them to try to help.  When the whites are mentioned it's just easier to take it off the board than post on it.

Becky

Well said Becky ;-)

Sash, could not agree more, would wish that everyone would choose their dogs with care. My point was that it is easier to find a quality dog that is within the breed standard than one that is not, what ever the breed and what ever the colour, to buy outside the standard puts more responsibility on the purchaser, if you think I meant anything else I did not.

Hello Guest, there are good breeders out there that also breed 'white whites' from lines that are all hip scored but there are many people who breed them indiscrimently just for colour and produce them almost brown.
You don't say where you are but if you contact me I can help you find a reputable breeder  If you can click on my user name you will be able to see him.
My regards,
Debbie

Debbie, please read the forum terms of service with reference to advertising. Guests are asked to leave contact details so that you can email them off forum.

  sorry admin, I'm not advertising cos I don't breed, just pointing out that there are true whites and with good hip scores

Er does not owning a stud dog mean that you DO breed

Hi guest,I have personally met  Debbies boy spirit,i must admit hes lovely and very white,I have seen a puppy of Spirits,hes as handsome as his dad,big and chunky and also a TRUE WHITE,with an outstanding temperment.If i didnt have my lab girls,i would certainly be proud to own one of his babies.Julia

Hi Julia, I too have personally met Spirit and have his son Koda sitting right here next to me as I'm typing this post. Koda is very much his fathers son and has an outstanding temperament. IMO a perfect example of an english bred white long coated gsd.  He is at present 5 months old, he too has huge bone, he is true white in appearance and I would not part with him for all the tea in China. :D

So hes going to be a handsome boy then Sash,Just like his Daddy then.He would be my pride and joy too,Isnt he the most perfect example of the WHITE.

Spirits a babe in the flesh and is definitely the whitest dog I've seen.  You really do have to meet him to appreciate how wonderful he is, if my little Koda turns out like his daddy I'll not be complaining. :D

Hi i also have a lovely well bred white longcoat gsd male from hip scored parents,as for temperement(arnt the whites "supposed" to be tempremental??Or so some would have you believe)eeeerrrr yeah right, my boy is a complete clown,very comical,very loving and above all well socialised around people(including children,i have 4 myself)and other dogs,as are other white gsd's i have met.I have seen spirit,not in the flesh admittedly,but he is a handsome wellboned boy and i have heard loads(all very positive) about him from my friend who knows him personally.Sorry but i just had to add my little bit of input in defence of this EXTREMELY beautiful,intelligent breed,i just wish more people could apprieciate them more rather than dismiss them simply because of their colour:0(

I'm curious as to why, whenever somebody asks for information on a white GSD they seem to get grief??  Surely one reason we are all attracted to our chosen breeds is because of their appearance?  There always has been and always will be, bad breeders out there that produce puppies indiscriminantly, purely for colour and have no regard for health but this doesn't begin and end with the GSD?  Those potential owners who do their research first - as this guest is doing - stand themselves in good stead when eventually choosing a pup, especially if they receive help from experienced people with a first hand knowledge of the breed.  I say well done guest for asking for help in sourcing your puppy rather than buying the next copy of the local trade paper and buying one from the next available litter!!!
Sarah

i don't think anyone is trying to give too much grief.  i think that people are just concerned with how dogs are being bred.  if someone is breeding outside the standard, it is hard, i would imagine, to improve upon the breed.  when purchasing a puppy, it is best to purchass only the best.  if not, you are supporting breeders who do not care to improve upon the breed.  im not saying that all breeders who breed these non-standard colored dogs don't care about improvements to the breed, im just saying that perhaps people here are concerned because there are so many breeders who just want the money and don't care.  i too, would hate to see any backyard breeders supported.

Rozzer, can't find anyone giving grief, just advice to make sure that the required pup is bought from a good breeder and the breeding stock if health tested. It is easier to find breeders of good quality pups when the results of their breeding are in the show ring, you can see the results and make your choice, there are some white/cream GSD's in the obedience and agility but it is more difficult to see a group of puppies there.  Think we are just keen to say do not let the fact that you want a particular colour blind you from looking at the dog as a whole, there are these days some good cream GSD's but there are some poor ones too, the fact that there are also bad standard coloured dogs is not the point, because if you are buying a standard GSD you can, without too much trouble, find a good one, it is not that easy if you want a white, cream or blue. What advice would you give?

I agree with you Jackie that it is easier to find good quality pup's when purchased through showing lines, indeed my pup came from show lines and I have always recommended to friends that they would be better off researching their chosen breed in this way as these are the breeders who are most likely to have health checks done.  The show ring isn't always so innocent though, I was talking to a judge the other day who said he liked my bitch but she is black and not all the judges like black   We all know the most popular afghan colour even though any colour is accepted!  The advice is always the same Jackie, whatever dog you are into - dont let physical appearance override the animal as a whole, get those checks done, meet the parents, assess the temperament etc.  Hopefully our guest will do all these things whether they went for a white or sable...I mean grief by all the posts we have had in the past about this subject, which can at times get quite heated!
Sarah :)

But not on this thread Sarah, which is why I was puzzled as to why you should suggest there was.
Of course, any puppy purchases would be as well to do their homework before deciding what breed they want and also where they should buy the chosen breed. Think the more work the puppy buyer puts into the research they do before they settle on a puppy the more likely they are to be happy with the pup as an adult, after all, other peoples admiration of your dog is very nice but you have to live with the dog and pay the vets bill, so look long and hard and then look again before you put your money down. Choosing to buy a very rare breed or a non-standard colour just adds to the pit falls waiting for the uninformed purchaser, you can take peoples recommendation when it comes to breeders or breeds but you must look for yourself or you could end up with an unsuitable dog and the friend who gave you the recommendation a friend no more.

It was a genuine question that I am putting across, seem's an appropriate enough thread to do so?  Thing is whenever the white GSD subject comes up, the response is usually the same - Why white?  I am of the opinion that the sable GSD has already been ruled out for those wanting information on whites???  Genuine question is all :)
Sarah

You right Rozzer it is mostly the same 'why white' question, they are not albino, they have NO other heath problems apart from ones that every other german shepherd can get and no body ever asks 'why a yellow lab' or 'why a chocolate lab' etc, etc when they post on here. Give the WGSD a break pls, just because they are not 'breed description' they are no worse or better than any other colour, they should all be treated the same, but if someone has preference to a certain colour then let them, it isn't a crime.

No it is just if you want a white dog why choose a GSD, just a question not a criticism. But if the person is not able to answer, that is OK, no need to consider it a reason to become upset, either answer or not, it is your choice. Why is it that anyone with a non registered or non standard dog are so defensive, if the rest of us were given a chance to understand may be they would not have to be so angry about everything.

It is nothing to do with the fact we become deffensive but almost everytime a WGSD is mentioned you ask 'why white' Jackie H, and it only seems to be with WGSD's, not any other. I for one become 'defensive' because im fed up with people saying 'oh, arnt the white ones aggressive' and 'oh they are horrible because they are not the 'normal' colour'. OK they are not 'standard' according to the kennel club, but they are EXACTLY the same as the other colours apart from one fact they are white (or cream or beige or what ever), there is no need to ask every single person who comes on asking about this beautiful breed why they chose it, why not ask everyone else why they chose theirs too?

It's the rarity value to a lot of pet owners, sadly well over 50 % of the GSDs that come into our rescue are "white"so they're not that rare

oh moonmaiden, that breaks my heart.  i have a shelter pup, and he is wonderful and smart and handsome.  i am interested in so many pure breds, but when i think about the shelters, i think i'll never buy anything but a shelter pup.  i suppose the pure bred rescues are okay, but it just seems so awful to me to think of how many dogs are getting euthanized each year. 

At least we don't pts any dog unless it's for medical reasons, our lady who runs the rescue had kept a little bitch going with homoeopathic treatment, but earlier neglect finally over took her & she died suddenly :(

She rehomes over 400 dogs a year via her kennels alone I really don't know how she does it.

A dog I bred(back in the 70's)ended up with the rescue as his owner was too ashamed to return him to me aged 7, I of course took him back from her, why did they part with him ? because a relative had told them all GSD's went nasty at 7, He stayed with me for the next 9 years with his perfect temperament still intact.

Too many people breeding for all the wrong reasons mean more & more pedigree dogs end up in rescue, new owners not researching the breed properly. One reason I no longe breed dogs & only have dogs who are not at stud. I then have no heartache over the puppies they produce not being cared for properly

I always thought the white German Shepherd was produced by  recessive genes and faulted. So, I have trouble with supporting any breeder who breeds against the standard. If they do that, it's likely that they don't care about other health concerns. I always have a problem with that kind of "breeder." I don't know what it is in the U.K. This is what the AKC standard says:

Color
The German Shepherd Dog varies in color, and most colors are permissible. Strong rich colors are preferred. Pale, washed-out colors and blues or livers are serious faults. A white dog must be disqualified.


Carrie

The only reason White GSD's are not accepted by the many kennel clubs is that white is not considered a suitable colour for a dog that is/was used for guarding. And as a matter of interest I have nothing against white or any others colour dog only that the purchaser of a dog, that is not an accepted colour, should be very careful who they buy the pup from as sadly some breeders are only breeding for colour regardless of any other consideration. And yes I am puzzled at to why anyone chooses a breed and then askes for a nonstandard colour, if someone can explain why then I will stop asking.

Oh Jackie It's because they are so rare & hence more valuable at least people who contact me for "white"GSDs puppies(not I do not breed)seem to think this. Plus as one local to me breeder states they do not have HD, Epilepsy or Haemophillia so must be more healthy(she doe not health check any of hers) Her recent breeding have been registered at the KC as Champagne Sable, Blond Sable, Black & cream, White sable, Cream, Beige, Grey & cream  & Biscuit & cream from one litter :O from her 14 month old bitch

I dont believe this! WGSD's can have the same health checks as any other registered GSD, I never said they were rare, I know that they are not, but just because they are not allowed to be shown does not make them any less healthy for goodness sake! Also there are many bad breeders of black/tan GSD's just as there are white ones. YES people think they are rare but this goes for many other dogs.